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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #7442
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    chrisbonnie wrote: »
    Can you explain the difference to the numbers they put out and the "swab data" please?

    Notified could include a backlog
    Swab data is total swabs in the past 24 hours, including retests.


  • #7443
    Vicxas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,628 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Worldwide daily new cases drop from 850k to 350k in just over a month.

    Something very positive but not sure what's causing it


  • #7444
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,590 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Worldwide daily new cases drop from 850k to 350k in just over a month.

    Evidence for seasonality perhaps? (do most of the world population live in the northern hemisphere?)


  • #7445
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    Everybody is confined to their homes for the vast majority of the day. By enforced lockdown and through the miserable weather of the last few weeks.

    So the majority of close contacts that people have, are shockingly enough, going to be in their own household.

    We also know that the virus is more easily transmitted indoors!

    If somebody in the home gets it they are likely going to pass it on to other people in the household.

    It's not even remotely a cause for concern. Pure hysteria from another no-nothing 'expert' that people like to say we should be listening to.

    This fear-mongering about this new variant and it's transmissibility is strangly happening at the time of an unprecedented decline in Covid cases worldwide (and not everyone is in this draconian lockdown either).

    Not strange at all variants will keep occurring.

    Your timing is wrong -

    501Y.V1_variant November 2020
    501.V2_variant December 2020
    Lineage P.1 variant 6th January 2021


  • #7446
    Arduach
    Closed Accounts Posts: 618 ✭✭✭Arduach


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Something very positive but not sure what's causing it

    Most of the world is in lockdown. I'd say that one major factor.


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  • #7447
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Vicxas wrote: »
    Something very positive but not sure what's causing it
    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Evidence for seasonality perhaps? (do most of the world population live in the northern hemisphere?)

    Nobody knows apparently. Experts scratching their heads.


  • #7448
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    901 new cases 47 deaths

    Are we going to need a shot of level 6 for a couple of weeks?

    What are you calling level six?


  • #7449
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Todays figure is 35 larger than this day last week

    However for the 4 days so far this week we're 141 cases lower than the same four days last week


  • #7450
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    What are you calling level six?

    AKA proper level 5.

    As most cases are either at work or in homes two weeks of total shutdown should work as a fire break. No leaving your home other than to the shop to buy groceries by one person. Nothing moves other than those in medical front line or getting vaccination.


  • #7451
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    hynesie08 wrote: »
    Twice this week you've been caught out lying, why would anyone believe a word that you say?






    And new york has the same mask rules as us.....

    ...Hello Hynesie08

    just to reply to your accusations that I was lying. I cannot pick up the 2 quotes but No 1. was that I said I had travelled from Louth to Limerick plenty of times and told the Gardai at any checkpoint I met why. Each time I was wished well and waved through to continue on my journey. This is the truth.

    No 2. another poster asked if I had seen my siblings through this time when I was saying I hadn't (based on my trips to Limerick to see my daughter). No I didn't, this is also the truth.

    My daughter in Limerick had a premature delivery of her 2nd baby along with post natal depression after it. She also had an 18 month old at the time. A month before the birth they all got Covid 19. So yes I was allowed visit her, she was in my bubble, she was a vulnerable family member and I was helping with my 2 grandchildren.

    I did not see any of my 6 siblings and have not since last year. Its been a long time. I can visit my daughter because she is in my bubble. I cannot visit my siblings as they all live too far away.
    This is all stuff I shouldn't even have to defend here, it derails threads and take time to try and find those posts you even referred to.





    To be honest I find it disturbing and bizarre that someone would trawl through my posting history to accuse me of lying???? Is this because I said things are much more open in New York? That's wasn't a lie either. I don't tell lies. What is the point, I'm not trying to impress anyone?

    You really don't know the state of mind or anyone who is posting here. You post in such a bitter way, accusing a total random poster of lying. Boards is a toxic place to be these days. I hope its only a sign of the stress people are under and I would appeal for people to be kinder to each other. People should be able to have different opinions without being called liars.

    I just don't get it, I have had a pretty bad week (my 86 year old mother has Covid in her nursing home) . It took me the afternoon and a swim in the sea to feel right again.

    I hope you have a nice evening and you were just having a bad day.


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  • #7452
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    AKA proper level 5.

    As most cases are either at work or in homes two weeks of total shutdown should work as a fire break. No leaving your home other than to the shop to buy groceries by one person. Nothing moves other than those in medical front line or getting vaccination.
    Do we all get a free whip for self-flagellation as well? The UK tried fire breaks, they don't work.


  • #7453
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    AKA proper level 5.

    As most cases are either at work or in homes two weeks of total shutdown should work as a fire break. No leaving your home other than to the shop to buy groceries by one person. Nothing moves other than those in medical front line or getting vaccination.

    It's really not a mad idea at all, but it would really want to happen about now. Prior to schools returning.


  • #7454
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Arduach wrote: »
    Most of the world is in lockdown. I'd say that one major factor.

    Europe maybe, but some hugely populated places like India and South America are experiencing downturns even though lockdowns are hard to implement there.
    Perhaps the virus is going through its natural cycle- changing, herd immunity maybe even weakening?
    With all mankind’s manoeuvring and attempted control maybe Mother Nature will give us the ultimate dig out?

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #7455
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    re TonyMaloney

    Exactly, there's a small window to move in and obviously it'll never happen and this will dribble on for months with no lifting of the "joke" level 5 until God knows when. This morning one of NPHET mentioned cases still being in 300-400 range at end of March I think. That's a total failure


  • #7456
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    It's really not a mad idea at all, but it would really want to happen about now. Prior to schools returning.

    The thing is people dont think that through to the end.

    There are a lot of things going on all the time that are essential as in essential. Which requires quite a lot of people to leave their homes.


  • #7457
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    AKA proper level 5.

    As most cases are either at work or in homes two weeks of total shutdown should work as a fire break. No leaving your home other than to the shop to buy groceries by one person. Nothing moves other than those in medical front line or getting vaccination.

    It's amazing the amount of cars in the roads and M50.

    Nothing like the same lockdown last March.

    Doubt cases will drop much more in the next few weeks unless people actually stay at home.


  • #7458
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,171 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    The thing is people dont think that through to the end.

    There are a lot of things going on all the time that are essential as in essential. Which requires quite a lot of people to leave their homes.

    Yeah like last March.

    This time around people are out and about driving for no essential reason.


  • #7459
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    It's amazing the amount of cars in the roads and M50.

    Nothing like the same lockdown last March.

    Doubt cases will drop much more in the next few weeks unless people actually stay at home.
    We are nudging a lot closer to compliance falling away so they won't.


  • #7460
    SEPT 23 1989
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,038 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Not that I agree with it but

    Apart from online and some retail the rest of the economy that was open last year has ground to a halt over the last month and a half

    Two weeks of total shutdown wouldn't do too much more damage


  • #7461
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Yeah like last March.

    This time around people are out and about driving for no essential reason.

    But people who have these 'easy' ideas like everybody just stays at home for two weeks only think from here to there.

    You still need someone working in your power plant, police station, fire brigade, telecom centre, farm, general supply chain, a ton of other things. When you spend a little time thinking you'd be amazed how many things cant just be left alone for two weeks.


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  • #7462
    UsBus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    AKA proper level 5.

    As most cases are either at work or in homes two weeks of total shutdown should work as a fire break. No leaving your home other than to the shop to buy groceries by one person. Nothing moves other than those in medical front line or getting vaccination.

    For Dublin maybe. The rest of the country is suffering for the continuously high numbers there. Most counties should be opening up in March. Completely unfair to have a county locked down for 5 -10 cases. If it was any other county apart from Dublin, I imagine a regional lockdown would be happening.


  • #7463
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    But people who have these 'easy' ideas like everybody just stays at home for two weeks only think from here to there.

    You still need someone working in your power plant, police station, fire brigade, telecom centre, farm, general supply chain, a ton of other things. When you spend a little time thinking you'd be amazed how many things cant just be left alone for two weeks.

    Can we not just do exact same that Was open in March?

    If you were closed in lockdown one you close now.

    There’s clearly a lot more activity at this point than then


  • #7464
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,059 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    UsBus wrote: »
    For Dublin maybe. The rest of the country is suffering for the continuously high numbers there. Most counties should be opening up in March. Completely unfair to have a county locked down for 5 -10 cases. If it was any other county apart from Dublin, I imagine a regional lockdown would be happening.

    I think NPHET (or maybe the Dept of Health) have decided there will be no more regional lockdowns. Expect they think it causes resentment.

    Speaking of whom isn't there supposed to be a media briefing tonight?


  • #7465
    jams100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 868 ✭✭✭jams100


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    It's amazing the amount of cars in the roads and M50.

    Nothing like the same lockdown last March.

    Doubt cases will drop much more in the next few weeks unless people actually stay at home.

    We've been hearing that for weeks and cases keep falling (albeit slowly).
    It's not sustainable to just keep saying stay at home, there is minimum risk from going for a walk on the beach with a friend/family member or going for a game of golf.

    We need restrictions that are sustainable for the medium to longer term rather than the easy generic stay at home message.

    I have the feeling that no politician will speak up since what happened at Christmas and the country is essentially being run by nphet. (And just to clarify I'm not suggesting to open restaurants/pubs, hairdressers etc.) But, where there is evidence of limited to no spread, those activities should be encouraged.

    Speaking personally my physical health has definitely gotten poorer since gyms, football pitches and golf clubs closed. Its hard to find motivation to do any physical exercise anymore. I'm sure I'm not alone in that feeling.


  • #7466
    Widdensushi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,594 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Good that ye are having this debate today, hopefully a nice drop tomorrow, any talk of tougher restrictions will only lead to more widespread disobedience of the current rules.


  • #7467
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,355 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Can we not just do exact same that Was open in March?

    If you were closed in lockdown one you close now.

    There’s clearly a lot more activity at this point than then

    What do you expect? Its been 4 months of level 5 now (with a short break). Do you really think that toughening restrictions at this point is in any way a flyer?


  • #7468
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,626 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Can we not just do exact same that Was open in March?

    If you were closed in lockdown one you close now.

    There’s clearly a lot more activity at this point than then
    Very true, alot of places now open that were lockdown in march as where i work, but if you get a call to be in work as normal what can you do.


  • #7469
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,599 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    What do you expect? Its been 4 months of level 5 now (with a short break). Do you really think that toughening restrictions at this point is in any way a flyer?

    It’s gonna be extended anyway

    Why not do a 2 week hard close?


  • #7470
    UsBus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,389 ✭✭✭UsBus


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    I think NPHET (or maybe the Dept of Health) have decided there will be no more regional lockdowns. Expect they think it causes resentment.

    Speaking of whom isn't there supposed to be a media briefing tonight?

    Well if there were to be a county specific lockdown, the county affected could see the other counties progress in returning to some level of opening and have a goal to aim for. At the moment everyone is on the move because they can get away with it and they don't see anything on the horizon. The current policy is a farce.


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  • #7471
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    AKA proper level 5.

    As most cases are either at work or in homes two weeks of total shutdown should work as a fire break. No leaving your home other than to the shop to buy groceries by one person. Nothing moves other than those in medical front line or getting vaccination.

    Right so how would you enforce that?

    Even shutting down everything in the economy back costing hundreds of millions minimum, what happens after the two weeks if caees haven't fallen enough?

    As is always the case shutting down is easy, reopening is much harder

    The government wouldn't bring back all those open now at one time


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