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Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

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  • #5162
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Of course we will and that's simply because our population cannot be trusted to not act like bullocks let out of the shed after winter. Remember what happened for the few weeks around our meaningful Christmas?

    Would it have anything to do with a six week lockdown prior to the busiest period of the year both socially/consumerism and prior to opening things up people were told they would be locked down again in January.
    It was almost like Christmas was set up to fail.


  • #5163
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Stheno wrote: »
    5200 people between Jan 30 and Feb 5

    No quarantine hotels yet



    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/government-concern-as-5-200-irish-people-return-from-holidays-abroad-in-one-week-1.4481242?mode=amp

    I don't get why she describes it as very concerning. The fact they are required to have a negative test to fly means they have a far less risk of spreading than the virus than the majority of everyone else.


  • #5164
    Hmob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Hmob


    IHCA VP

    -patients are coming in asymptomatic and spreading the virus round in the hospital setting to patients and staff

    -Uk variant is much worse and more transmissible

    Hard to know what to say about the first one at this stage


  • #5165
    Coybig_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    prunudo wrote: »
    I don't get why she describes it as very concerning. The fact they are required to have a negative test to fly means they have a far less risk of spreading than the virus than the majority of everyone else.

    Because it helps them to distract from the crazy spread in hospitals and nursing homes. And Saint Tony saying well if theres community transmission then hurr durr, nothing we can do about hospitals and nursing homes. Nope, absolutely nothing at all.

    Now, back to the flights and the college students and the GAA. The real enemies. But remember, nobody is at fault for catching the virus, and we need to stop turning on each other! But remember who is at fault.

    The government in a nutshell.


  • #5166
    niallo27
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    Of course we will and that's simply because our population cannot be trusted to not act like bullocks let out of the shed after winter. Remember what happened for the few weeks around our meaningful Christmas?

    You make a great point, why do bullocks act like this after winter. Its because they are locked up for so long, the same way we were locked up for the longest in Europe. So I'm guessing your saying having such long lockdowns is contributing to such large surges.


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  • #5167
    Turtwig
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    Hmob wrote: »
    IHCA VP

    -patients are coming in asymptomatic and spreading the virus round in the hospital setting to patients and staff

    -Uk variant is much worse and more transmissible

    Hard to know what to say about the first one at this stage

    First one is sadly true. StandardHospital ward are extremely difficult to contain something this infectious. Patients move around. Share Bathrooms. Some may not be fully compliant with infection prevention measures. Some may be unable to wear masks. There will be times when they simply can't wear masks. There will be times where patients will be unaware of the measures they need to take. Staff will make mistakes too.

    Second one also appears true transmission wise. Not sure about disease severity though that's maybe down to just a much higher incidence of infection. The increased mortality estimates from the UK was based on only 7% of cases. Too early to know.


  • #5168
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    HSE report

    990 in hospital, down from 1012 last night.

    167 in ICU, down from 175. Unfortunately 9 ICU deaths from 8am yesterday to 8am this morning


  • #5169
    MrMusician18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,145 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    niallo27 wrote: »
    You make a great point, why do bullocks act like this after winter. Its because they are locked up for so long, the same way we were locked up for the longest in Europe. So I'm guessing your saying having such long lockdowns is contributing to such large surges.

    I suppose asking Irish people to not act like animals is too much tbf.


  • #5170
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,296 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Deleted User wrote: »

    Not as long as Moany Hologram, Ronan Glum, and Professor Bore-an, are in charge.

    :rolleyes:

    How original! Did you make them up yourself?


  • #5171
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,086 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    HSE report

    990 in hospital, down from 1012 last night.

    167 in ICU, down from 175. Unfortunately 9 ICU deaths from 8am yesterday to 8am this morning

    RIP

    Great to see the hospitalisation figures keeping decreasing


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  • #5172
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    It's worth noting that most Mediterranean countries have already re-opened to some extent.

    In fact, some countries never had to close at all to any significant degree. Apart from limited public groups, wearing masks, and bars closed - that's it. Life remains the same. People can still go to restaurants that act as bars to some degree. Hairdressers never closed etc.

    Imagine anything close to that in Ireland? Not a chance.

    Not as long as Moany Hologram, Ronan Glum, and Professor Bore-an, are in charge.

    Holohan, Glynn and the Celebrity Experts are going absolutely nowhere. People seem to think that they are personally infallible based purely on the fact that they got 600 point on their leaving cert. These people are amongst the nations most famous people now. They ain't walking away from the limelight. The endorphins they get from being the centre of attention will keep them needing to be relevant.

    Just because you are involved in the medical/Biological industry, it doesn't mean you don't get endorphins from being "The Man".


  • #5173
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    MrMusician18 wrote: »
    I suppose asking Irish people to not act like animals is too much tbf.

    I assume when the travel restrictions are lifted you will be leaving since the populace here disappoints you so much. Which corner of the globe will be lucky have you as a permanent resident may I ask?


  • #5174
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    RIP

    Great to see the hospitalisation figures keeping decreasing

    That and vaccinations for HCPs - we are turning a corner on this.


  • #5175
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    I assume when the travel restrictions are lifted you will be leaving since the populace here disappoints you so much. Which corner of the globe will be lucky have you as a permanent resident may I ask?

    Not poster in question but I'm giving serious consideration to it.

    I don't think the Irish public are the problem but the Irish government are completely insufferable. I can't stand watching Martin and vradkar. They aren't leaders.

    I'm 31, no housing prospects, no social life currently, no dating, no nothing. Just lockdown, and working from home.

    At least in a different country there would be more sun and I wouldn't understand what the cuunting government are saying until I learn the language.


  • #5176
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    D.Q wrote: »
    Not poster in question but I'm giving serious consideration to it.

    I don't think the Irish public are the problem but the Irish government are completely insufferable. I can't stand watching Martin and vradkar. They aren't leaders.

    I'm 31, no housing prospects, no social life currently, no dating, no nothing. Just lockdown, and working from home.

    At least in a different country there would be more sun and I wouldn't understand what the cuunting government are saying until I learn the language.

    Have a house, have a job, have a partner. Yet now feel like you do. Lived abroad for 8 years and think the next move will be for good.

    Go somewhere and don’t look back.


  • #5177
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    D.Q wrote: »
    Not poster in question but I'm giving serious consideration to it.

    I don't think the Irish public are the problem but the Irish government are completely insufferable. I can't stand watching Martin and vradkar. They aren't leaders.

    I'm 31, no housing prospects, no social life currently, no dating, no nothing. Just lockdown, and working from home.

    At least in a different country there would be more sun and I wouldn't understand what the cuunting government are saying until I learn the language.

    Holy crap, you're me. I'm even 31 too.


  • #5178
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    titan18 wrote: »
    Like even Germany who are coming across as very cautious when extending their lockdown said some things can reopen 1st March like hairdressers. Our government are just cowards in comparison. We'll be the slowest again to reopen most likely.

    The reason why we have to be more cautious than other countries is our health service is a shambles. Hard to believe some people haven't grasped this after almost a year.

    Having said that, it's not like Germany is steaming ahead of us, in loosening restrictions.

    https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/german-expat-news/germany-extends-coronavirus-lockdown-until-march-7-loosens-some-rules


  • #5179
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    D.Q wrote: »
    Not poster in question but I'm giving serious consideration to it.

    I don't think the Irish public are the problem but the Irish government are completely insufferable. I can't stand watching Martin and vradkar. They aren't leaders.

    I'm 31, no housing prospects, no social life currently, no dating, no nothing. Just lockdown, and working from home.

    At least in a different country there would be more sun and I wouldn't understand what the cuunting government are saying until I learn the language.

    The government is quite clever tbh, they have covered their failings by turning the populace on each other. The language and vitriol on threads such as this shows how clever the politicians are. Everything gets blamed for the rise in cases except where government has responsibility.
    I'm not in my 30's any more but I would examine my future options if I were.
    Things in this country are not going to be fun for several years.


  • #5180
    FintanMcluskey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,696 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    D.Q wrote: »
    Not poster in question but I'm giving serious consideration to it.

    I don't think the Irish public are the problem but the Irish government are completely insufferable. I can't stand watching Martin and vradkar. They aren't leaders.

    I'm 31, no housing prospects, no social life currently, no dating, no nothing. Just lockdown, and working from home.

    At least in a different country there would be more sun and I wouldn't understand what the cuunting government are saying until I learn the language.

    That’s a concern of mine. That’s all life has been, and will be for a long time.

    Where is the motivation to continue the slog?

    It’s not like the next few years will be a pleasant time in this country, so isn’t it better to suffer in the sun!

    Has that fcuking irritating YOLO saying ever been more relevant?


  • #5181
    titan18
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,057 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    Wombatman wrote: »
    The reason why we have to be more cautious than other countries is our health service is a shambles. Hard to believe some people haven't grasped this after almost a year.

    Having said that, it's not like Germany is steaming ahead of us, in loosening restrictions.

    https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/german-expat-news/germany-extends-coronavirus-lockdown-until-march-7-loosens-some-rules

    Tbf that's still way looser than where we'll be come March.


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  • #5182
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,061 ✭✭✭Polar101


    The Irish Times wrote:
    He expressed concern at the impact of the UK variant saying that close contacts had a positivity rate of 22.5 per cent, over twice the positivity rate of 10-11 per cent of the original virus.

    Positivity rate for close contacts sounds very high - it's definitely important to keep testing them.

    "He" is MM being quoted in this article: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/prolonged-period-of-lockdown-ahead-taoiseach-tells-party-meeting-1.4481548


  • #5183
    Hmob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 256 ✭✭Hmob


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The government is quite clever tbh, they have covered their failings by turning the populace on each other. The language and vitriol on threads such as this shows how clever the politicians are. Everything gets blamed for the rise in cases except where government has responsibility.
    I'm not in my 30's any more but I would examine my future options if I were.
    Things in this country are not going to be fun for several years.

    Maybe ya

    BJ is doing the same , distraction, false flags you name it

    That's their game , a pandemic is not going to change them


  • #5184
    Coybig_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭Coybig_


    Level 5 until May.

    LOL.

    This government really are a dispicable shower.


  • #5185
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    titan18 wrote: »
    Holy crap, you're me. I'm even 31 too.

    You might be able to afford a yurt, I hear Mongolia is nice this time of year


  • #5186
    monkeybutter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    The government is quite clever tbh, they have covered their failings by turning the populace on each other. The language and vitriol on threads such as this shows how clever the politicians are. Everything gets blamed for the rise in cases except where government has responsibility.
    I'm not in my 30's any more but I would examine my future options if I were.
    Things in this country are not going to be fun for several years.

    No one is turning on anyone else, would youse schtap

    You have the same clowns repeating the same things over and over

    There's an echo in here


  • #5187
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    monkeybutter wrote: »
    No one is turning on anyone else, would youse schtap

    You have the same clowns repeating the same things over and over

    There's an echo in here
    Did you not hear the two pensioners on Joe Duffy last week. The abuse they got for having the audacity to escape the misery in Ireland. Disgusting yet not one word of government or HSE failings. The most vulnerable in nursing homes thrown to the mercy of the virus, who's fault was it ......the young ones having a takeaway pint I tell ya.


  • #5188
    mcburns07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Wombatman wrote: »
    The reason why we have to be more cautious than other countries is our health service is a shambles. Hard to believe some people haven't grasped this after almost a year.

    Having said that, it's not like Germany is steaming ahead of us, in loosening restrictions.

    https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/german-expat-news/germany-extends-coronavirus-lockdown-until-march-7-loosens-some-rules

    Having more capacity only buys you a few extra weeks, isn’t that what we’re always told whenever anyone questions why we haven’t increased ours much?


  • #5189
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Coybig_ wrote: »
    Level 5 until May.

    LOL.

    This government really are a dispicable shower..

    Level 5 till May?

    Jesus that's hard to take

    I was thinking travel in County and non essential retail before then


  • #5190
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    mcburns07 wrote: »
    Having more capacity only buys you a few extra weeks, isn’t that what we’re always told whenever anyone questions why we haven’t increased ours much?

    What of the 70k medical professionals who came back to Ireland and were never hired?


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  • #5191
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,467 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Polar101 wrote: »
    Positivity rate for close contacts sounds very high - it's definitely important to keep testing them.

    "He" is MM being quoted in this article: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/prolonged-period-of-lockdown-ahead-taoiseach-tells-party-meeting-1.4481548

    Of course they do when they weren't being officially tested. There's always a bump in the rate at the start, don't know how they've not copped onto it or point blank refuse to acknowledge it because its been mentioned enough times


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