Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

stephenjmcd · 10-02-2021 07:34PM

Wombatman wrote: »

https://www.newstalk.com/news/everyone-over-70-will-get-first-covid-19-vaccine-dose-within-next-11-weeks-donnelly-1134120

That changed last week to mid April with the reworking of the plan around vacination to just moderna and Pfizer. Was confirmed by the HSE only a few days ago.

Anecdotally my own GP today said by end of April she'll be finished 2 doses for all over 70s in her practice and its a large practise & allowing extra time if needed

https://www.thejournal.ie/paul-reid-vaccines-5347674-Feb2021/

“Thankfully, it’s not a significant impact on the completion of the first doses,” Reid said. “We were looking at the end of March, now it looks like probably the middle of April.

Plumbthedepths · 10-02-2021 07:36PM

iamwhoiam wrote: »

The four I know thankfully have partners still working so they are ok for now
I know its a huge struggle for so many of them and mortgage and rent to pay
Its truly not easy for so many and I guess they have to do what is needed to keep their heads above water

That's the thing, those that the use the pharse 'just stay at home' have no interest or empathy for the situation of others.
A balanced response btw.

niallo27 · 10-02-2021 07:39PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

It's clear now compliance is dropping fast. Barbers and hairdressers are doing house calls, sun bed places open by the back door, gyms busy and house parties still happening.

Where is this, because I can tell you there is next to **** all happening where I'm living in clare.

SCOOP 64 · 10-02-2021 07:45PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Where is this, because I can tell you there is next to **** all happening where I'm living in clare.

Go into any business park round my way plenty non essential businesses open and busy including where i work.

blade1 · 10-02-2021 07:46PM

c montgomery wrote: »

Passed the tattoo shop in my town today, I could hear the distinctive buzzing of a tattoo gun.

Not that I care too much, if both are wearing a mask and neither have symptoms it's probably grand.

Maybe he was tattooing himself/herself.

seamus · 10-02-2021 07:48PM

Stheno wrote: »

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1359579758267424769?s=19

Christ

He's getting a lot of pushback on that, GPs saying he's talking rubbish. He must have misspoken or be referring to the very tail end of the over-70s group, like those in very isolated rural settings.

Stheno · 10-02-2021 07:51PM

seamus wrote: »

He's getting a lot of pushback on that, GPs saying he's talking rubbish. He must have misspoken or be referring to the very tail end of the over-70s group, like those in very isolated rural settings.

Yes it came from the Vice President of the college of GPs

pc7 · 10-02-2021 07:53PM

With the new reported that AZ ok for over 65’s that might speed up think he again especially for older age groups

spookwoman · 10-02-2021 07:54PM

Vaccine data now in tables 2 above testing

stephenjmcd · 10-02-2021 07:57PM

GAA no longer considered elite for level 5 exemption

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1359585929258807299?s=19

Wolf359f · 10-02-2021 08:03PM

pc7 wrote: »

With the new reported that AZ ok for over 65’s that might speed up think he again especially for older age groups

The WHO are recommending it for emergency use.
They are basing that on the very same data from the clinical trials, so there's been no new data for countries who have restricted the age range to consider.

"However, the results of the efficacy estimate for persons up to 65 and older had a wide confidence interval. And therefore we feel that the response of this group cannot be any different to groups that are of a younger age.

"Since we have identified 'people over 65' was one of our priority groups in the prioritisation roadmap... looking at the safety and immunogenicity data... we recommend for the vaccine to be used in people 18 years and above, without an upper age limit.

Almost sounds like any vaccine is better than no vaccine, which of course is true.

For countries who have supplies of Pfizer, it would make sense to use the most efficient vaccine on the most vulnerable.

frank8211 · 10-02-2021 08:03PM

Thats good, GAA games caused a lot of cases last year. They should be hanging their heads and staying quiet for the next few months anyway

Coybig_ · 10-02-2021 08:05PM

frank8211 wrote: »

Thats good, GAA games caused a lot of cases last year. They should be hanging their heads and staying quiet for the next few months anyway

I truly despise what has become of a lot of people in this country.

And then people wonder why some are so hesitant to come forward with symptoms. This vilification of people who catch a respitory virus is rotten.

brick tamland · 10-02-2021 08:06PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

GAA no longer considered elite for level 5 exemption

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1359585929258807299?s=19

Whatever about "elite" level adults. I think its a disgrace that kids can't train outdoors until after this date. Young kids needs the outlet and any risk from outdoor training in small groups must be absolutely tiny.

marno21 · 10-02-2021 08:06PM

frank8211 wrote: »

Thats good, GAA games caused a lot of cases last year. They should be hanging their heads and staying quiet for the next few months anyway

Those cases were caused by pissups in local pubs, not matches.

Anyway, club GAA activity has been suspended since October. It's intercounty competition which has been the focus since, which has not been responsible for outbreaks.

Wolf359f · 10-02-2021 08:09PM

Coybig_ wrote: »

Perhaps if Tony Holohan had not decided that he knew better than NIAC and now the WHO we could have faster progress.

That man is an absolute ego-tripping disgrace.

NIAC made 2 recommendations around vaccination of over 70+.
The CMO recommend one of those to the Health Minister.
He didn't know know any better than NIAC, he just read their report and done his job and advised the Minister.

JP Liz V1 · 10-02-2021 08:11PM

I thought all over 65 would be vaccinated by April at the latest in the ROI

pc7 · 10-02-2021 08:12PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

The WHO are recommending it for emergency use.
They are basing that on the very same data from the clinical trials, so there's been no new data for countries who have restricted the age range to consider.

Almost sounds like any vaccine is better than no vaccine, which of course is true.

For countries who have supplies of Pfizer, it would make sense to use the most efficient vaccine on the most vulnerable.

I’m sure LON said new data of a big study was due this week too though, hopefully he’s right and it shows it can be used and we can go back to original gp plan.

alexonhisown · 10-02-2021 08:17PM

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

I thought all over 65 would be vaccinated by April at the latest in the ROI

Apparently not

https://twitter.com/FergalBowers/status/1359579758267424769

Neamhshuntasach · 10-02-2021 08:23PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Where is this, because I can tell you there is next to **** all happening where I'm living in clare.

I thankfully built a full gym out my back years ago so I haven't been tempted. But I'd still know a fair few into the power lifting and body building from the gyms i used to go to. And there are definitely a few gyms open around Dublin. Not your bigger commercial ones sneaking people in. But the smaller more niche ones. I'm in groups where pictures have been shared. A lot are in industrial estates and would only have a small door in with no windows.

My barber text recently about me dropping by if interested. Have heard the same from mates lately too. Anf the wife's hairdresser salon has been doing house calls. Some even doing nails through a letter box.

Wouldn't say it's rampant or nothing. But i think it would be foolish to think there aren't a percentage willing to risk whatever fines they may get by operating behind closed doors.

I'd say January was fine for a lot of people. It's usually a month people essentially lock themselves down anyways. But along comes February and no clear road map for how things will open back up or restrictions will lift. I can see why those with bills that are dependent on their business to pay them are tempted to open on the sly.

polesheep · 10-02-2021 08:27PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

I thankfully built a full gym out my back years ago so I haven't been tempted. But I'd still know a fair few into the power lifting and body building from the gyms i used to go to. And there are definitely a few gyms open around Dublin. Not your bigger commercial ones sneaking people in. But the smaller more niche ones. I'm in groups where pictures have been shared. A lot are in industrial estates and would only have a small door in with no windows.

My barber text recently about me dropping by if interested. Have heard the same from mates lately too. Anf the wife's hairdresser salon has been doing house calls. Some even doing nails through a letter box.

Wouldn't say it's rampant or nothing. But i think it would be foolish to think there aren't a percentage willing to risk whatever fines they may get by operating behind closed doors.

I'd say January was fine for a lot of people. It's usually a month people essentially lock themselves down anyways. But along comes February and no clear road map for how things will open back up or restrictions will lift. I can see why those with bills that are dependent on their business to pay them are tempted to open on the sly.

Some day in the future, when I'm in my dotage and remembering the restrictions, I'll think of this and laugh heartily.
"Some even doing nails through a letter box."

jackboy · 10-02-2021 08:28PM

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

the wife's hairdresser salon has been doing house calls. Some even doing nails through a letter box.

😂

titan18 · 10-02-2021 08:29PM

Like even Germany who are coming across as very cautious when extending their lockdown said some things can reopen 1st March like hairdressers. Our government are just cowards in comparison. We'll be the slowest again to reopen most likely.

pawdee · 10-02-2021 08:32PM

"Some even doing nails through a letter box."

Well glory be.....

PopePalpatine · 10-02-2021 08:35PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

GAA no longer considered elite for level 5 exemption

https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/1359585929258807299?s=19

Maybe, just maybe that'd give them the motivation to professionalise. :pac:

D.Q · 10-02-2021 08:37PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

It's clear now compliance is dropping fast. Barbers and hairdressers are doing house calls, sun bed places open by the back door, gyms busy and house parties still happening.

Social distancing has gone out the window. These covidiots will have bodies piled up in the street thanks to their covidiocy. Next 2 weeks are crucial.

caveat emptor · 10-02-2021 08:42PM

Icantthinkof1 wrote: »

Is anyone thinking they’re putting the feelers out there about the over 70’s vaccinations not being completed until June as they might have to do a u-turn with the AZ vaccines?

I don't know. WHO coming out and saying it's ok for over 65s isn't a big surprise. There wasn't enough data to show it protected. Specifically not enough people in that cohort got the disease as they were likely cocooning etc. Unfortunately for trials to be successful / conclusive people must get sick. It's likely it does work for them.

However South Africa's decision to pause the rollout of that particular vaccine in light of data published recently is telling. 10% efficacy with the new variant is hardly worth the effort in rolling out. No data on severe disease but it probably helps.

As someone said any vaccine is better than no vaccine. S.A variant now in Austria and similar variants emerging in UK so it'll likely be a problem here soon if drastic measures not implemented to curb it's arrival.

Purple Mountain · 10-02-2021 08:42PM

pawdee wrote: »

"Some even doing nails through a letter box."

Well glory be.....

How does she manage a brazilian?

hawkwing · 10-02-2021 08:50PM

Purple Mountain wrote: »

How does she manage a brazilian?

Through the cat flap

Loafing Oaf · 10-02-2021 08:53PM

Purple Mountain wrote: »

How does she manage a brazilian?

Doesn't deal with that nationality because of the variant

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