Formula 1 2021 - General Discussion Thread (Read 1st post rules)

quokula · 07-02-2021 12:30AM

They really should do it based on something more representative like percentage difference in world championship points or average qualifying time over the season. There's a bigger gap in wind tunnel time between some very closely matched midfield teams than there is for the massive gulf in performance between Merc and Red Bull, or between Red Bull and McLaren.

mickdw · 07-02-2021 10:36AM

quokula wrote: »

They really should do it based on something more representative like percentage difference in world championship points or average qualifying time over the season. There's a bigger gap in wind tunnel time between some very closely matched midfield teams than there is for the massive gulf in performance between Merc and Red Bull, or between Red Bull and McLaren.

Its a good start anyway.

flazio · 08-02-2021 11:11AM

It's only a one year deal
https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1358734158374330369?s=19

racersedge · 08-02-2021 11:14AM

flazio wrote: »

It's only a one year deal
https://twitter.com/MercedesAMGF1/status/1358734158374330369?s=19

That’s probably the only ‘surprise’ about it. That in itself will fuel the idea that he’s out to get #8 and ride off into the sunset once he’s top of all the competitive records. Also gives him and easy out ahead of new regulations and (hopefully) a tightening of the field spread.

Mitch Connor · 08-02-2021 11:15AM

Lewis does the season, and is replaced by Russel next time around. Kinda suprising. a 1 year deal doesn't seem like anyone did well at the table.

Cork Trucker · 08-02-2021 11:15AM

Merc to field an all new lineup in 2022 then with Russell as team leader?

klose · 08-02-2021 11:26AM

https://twitter.com/CroftyF1/status/1358737839933038593?s=19

Lewis to break 100+ wins, go clear with all time championship wins and ride off into the sunset you'd imagine is the thinking here, Russell then to replace him and who knows what the story with bottas will be.

BBDBB · 08-02-2021 11:27AM

racersedge wrote: »

That’s probably the only ‘surprise’ about it. That in itself will fuel the idea that he’s out to get #8 and ride off into the sunset once he’s top of all the competitive records. Also gives him and easy out ahead of new regulations and (hopefully) a tightening of the field spread.

exactly what I was going to say

2022 line up will be interesting

nothing about a Veto of other drivers?

vectra · 08-02-2021 11:29AM

Depending on Red Bull outcome this season, it could quite possibly be Max.

BBDBB · 08-02-2021 11:32AM

I could see it being Max, he does have two years still on his red Bull contract - although I think I read that he has a get out clause

SureYWouldntYa · 08-02-2021 01:11PM

This is it wrote: »

Max will just replace Hamilton as the villain :pac:

Max could actually be a proper villain though

He's the sort who could sh1t talk while on top and boast about nobody being on his level, none of this faux oh we just try our best and I'm #blessed from Lewis

El_Duderino 09 · 08-02-2021 01:14PM

SureYWouldntYa wrote: »

Max could actually be a proper villain though

He's the sort who could sh1t talk while on top and boast about nobody being on his level, none of this faux oh we just try our best and I'm #blessed from Lewis

Totally agree with this. Hamilton wants everyone to love him. Max doesn’t give a shyte about that.

Frank Bullitt · 08-02-2021 04:34PM

The thoughts of Hamilton being around for only one more year are really nice.

muckwarrior · 08-02-2021 04:56PM

Frank Bullitt wrote: »

The thoughts of Hamilton being around for only one more year are really nice.

Personally, I'd rather he stayed for longer, but with a competitive team mate.

Frank Bullitt · 08-02-2021 05:08PM

muckwarrior wrote: »

Personally, I'd rather he stayed for longer, but with a competitive team mate.

I suppose if I am to wish for anything it is for a competitive F1 season. We can only dream.

jv2000 · 08-02-2021 05:41PM

OSI wrote: »

Hamilton and Bottas with contracts till the end of 2021, McLaren getting Mercedes engines again, INEOS taking a shareholding in the Brackley team, Toto stepping back from running the team. Must surely all be strong indicators Mercedes are seriously looking at pulling back from being a manufacturer team in F1?

Agree, there are 2 ominous signs here. The first being that Mercedes will exit and that the owners replacing them will have the option to choose their own driver lineup without being crippled with Hamilton's wages.

The other sign... and I do not even want to think about this.... Hamilton is all set to join another team in 2022 that will get the best handle on the new Regs and storm to a 4-in-a-row before retiring.

AMKC · 08-02-2021 08:29PM

jv2000 wrote: »

Agree, there are 2 ominous signs here. The first being that Mercedes will exit and that the owners replacing them will have the option to choose their own driver lineup without being crippled with Hamilton's wages.

The other sign... and I do not even want to think about this.... Hamilton is all set to join another team in 2022 that will get the best handle on the new Regs and storm to a 4-in-a-row before retiring.

That would have to either be Ferrari, McLaren or Alpine then with Alpine been the least likely and McLaren the most as they are a team he knows, he started there and they have Mercedes engines.
I suppose none of us will mo for sure untill we here Mercedes announce they are stepping back. Then it will all become more clear.

Frank Bullitt · 08-02-2021 10:46PM

AMKC wrote: »

That would have to either be Ferrari, McLaren or Alpine then with Alpine been the least likely and McLaren the most as they are a team he knows, he started there and they have Mercedes engines.
I suppose none of us will mo for sure untill we here Mercedes announce they are stepping back. Then it will all become more clear.

Discussed it with a mate in work, we think McLaren could have one of the best driver line ups right now, and if Norris keeps improving the way he is they might not need a big name, he might become one.

Joeseph Balls · 08-02-2021 11:31PM

barryribs wrote: »

They had the 98 Williams parked outside one of the Select garages in Tralee at some stage in early 99. It was really odd, there was nothing announced, it was just up on a plinth parked up at the corner of the garage with a guy looking after it. There was no engine in it apparently. The only thing I can think is that it was a Winfield promo

Think it was a Winfield promo. It travelled around shopping centres too

08-02-2021 11:35PM

1996 Williams was in the local Renault dealership here the following year. Got to sit in it and all.

Jordan 199 · 09-02-2021 08:57AM

Just one week to go to the first car launch of the season* which will be McLaren this day next week.

*Unless someone other team(s) launches earlier.

muckwarrior · 09-02-2021 09:25AM

Deleted User wrote: »

1996 Williams was in the local Renault dealership here the following year. Got to sit in it and all.

Proper jealous :eek:

AMKC · 09-02-2021 10:11AM

I see Kevin Magnessim is going to be racing for Peugeot in the WEC. Well done to him. Might have been a good place for Grosjean to go to instead Indy.

El_Duderino 09 · 09-02-2021 10:39AM

The Missed Apex lads were talking about tyre changes for this year. In response to feedback, they're making more durable tyres for this season. There's a chance that drivers will be able to push for longer on the tyres. There's also a chance that they will all just mind the tyres and do one stop races. The ideal scenario would be that the tyres can be pushed to create enough speed difference to make up for the 20-30 seconds lost for an additional pitstop.

Also, in Haas news: They are building the car i the UK for the first time and the engine is being built by Ferrari Italy. Travel restrictions mean the first time the will fire up the engine will be at testing. It might all go to plan but it's not a great scenario for them.

SureYWouldntYa · 09-02-2021 10:49AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

the first time the will fire up the engine will be at testing. It might all go to plan but it's not a great scenario for them.

Things like this is why I wish Mick Schumacher got the Alfa seat and Giovinazzi got the boot.

Haas are going absolutely nowhere, I would be surprised to see either of the drivers score a point this season bar a race where only 12 or 13 finish.

ELM327 · 09-02-2021 11:03AM

Mick racing alongside Kimi at alfa would be great.
The son racing alongside the guy who was chosen to replace his father at ferrari

SureYWouldntYa · 09-02-2021 11:13AM

The only saving grace for him at Haas is that if Mazepin is a PR crapshow, it might take some of the attention off Mick's poor performances, should there be any

I don't see a way Mick comes out of this season with his reputation enhanced, we might hear stuff about how he struggles in season one and gets going in season two as he did in F2 & F3 but he's not going to be 1991 Schumacher on entry

09-02-2021 01:41PM

muckwarrior wrote: »

Proper jealous :eek:

8 year old me loved it. :P

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The Missed Apex lads were talking about tyre changes for this year. In response to feedback, they're making more durable tyres for this season. There's a chance that drivers will be able to push for longer on the tyres. There's also a chance that they will all just mind the tyres and do one stop races. The ideal scenario would be that the tyres can be pushed to create enough speed difference to make up for the 20-30 seconds lost for an additional pitstop.

Unless they're completely changing the construction of the tyres it will have little affect tbh. They can make them slightly more durable but that'll just mean drivers going at e.g. 96.5% pace instead of 96%.
I'll be happy to be wrong but I don't think a slight change of compound or slightly thicker tread is what's going to make the difference.

AMKC · 09-02-2021 05:44PM

This is cool. Amazing to think in these times of CAD and computer the Adrian Newey still using a drawing board,

https://www.facebook.com/568665409957112/posts/2020349951455310/?sfnsn=mo&d=n&vh=e

Also I see there is rumours of Compass racing getting into Formula 1 next year.

Harika · 09-02-2021 06:29PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/rich_energy/status/1358417351167922178

Bernie gets involved, hilarious

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