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    #4982
    Antares35
    Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    true, but is this truly 'a problem'?

    You're the one who suggested it is an issue, why don't you tell me.


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    #4983
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Antares35 wrote: »
    I've a cousin who has spent the majority of his adult life in third level "education" - the kind of courses that are like eight hours a week. Saving the world from itself and crusading against gender stereotyping and god knows what else. He's in his thirties now and still has never had a full time job where he is expected to pay contributions like the rest of us. He will still expect to be able to "retire" the same age as everyone else! :D
    Antares35 wrote: »
    You're the one who suggested it is an issue, why don't you tell me.

    i may have misinterpreted your post above, but it seems like you have an issue with your cousins choices?


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    #4984
    Antares35
    Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    i may have misinterpreted your post above, but it seems like you have an issue with your cousins choices?

    Everything in my post is a statement of fact. So what if I have an issue with it? What's your issue? Are you him :D


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    #4985
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    ....so ridiculing him on the internets, solves the 'issue' by?
    Antares35 wrote: »
    Everything in my post is a statement of fact. So what if I have an issue with it? What's your issue? Are you him :D

    ............


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    #4986
    Antares35
    Registered Users Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    ShagNastii wrote: »
    This whole Garda dance thing got me thinking.

    Losing the height restrictions for the Gardai was such a misstep. OK, I’ll agree there have surely been fantastic people who have entered since this change but when it comes to Gardai on the beat some (particularly female) are dainty AF and are a total liability.

    I suppose at least they travel in pairs :)


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    #4987
    raven41
    Registered Users Posts: 101 ✭✭raven41


    EmmetSpiceland wrote: »
    Ryan Tubridy, on both his radio show and ‘The Late Late Show’, should be commended for providing a national service by keeping all the cranks, weirdos, oddballs, loons, malcontents and covidiots suitably “riled up” and, obsessively, focused on constantly moaning about him, and RTÉ in general, online so that it keeps them off the streets.

    I would say Ryan is a nice guy if you met him in the street and I have nothing personal against him. But on tv and radio he comes across as a sanctimonious waffler who is intent and inflicting his world view upon his viewers and listeners. a constant diet of misery porn consisting of covid death/cancer/mother and baby homes does not make good Saturday night viewing and I have an inkling that he has completely misjudged the mood of the nation and the worm is starting to turn. Because i'm forced to pay a licence fee for the privilege of watching/listening to him. Wouldnt feel so bad if he was on one of the other channels.


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    #4988
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    i may have misinterpreted your post above, but it seems like you have an issue with your cousins choices?

    Honestly, I would say yes it is an issue.

    A grown man in his 30s is in his prime and should be a functioning, productive member of society. The only mitigating circumstances are a profound cognitive or physical disability, which do appear to be a factor for the poster’s cousin.

    Our demographics are trending older and the dependency ratio is narrowing. It’s important that everybody plays their part in contributing to society to ensure that we can all retire at a reasonable age.

    A 30-something man floating around in education and never holding down a full time job, is not pulling his weight. Might sound harsh, but that’s the way I see it..


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    #4989
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Oymyakon wrote: »
    Just an anecdote here, I graduated with a third class honours physics degree a few years ago. I felt too stupid to really grasp the course material and I was eventually spat out the other side with the bare minimum passing grades through rote learning.

    Leaving school I genuinely thought a physics degree would unlock a wide variety of jobs but I’ve been stuck in a couple low paying financial service roles since, and I can’t seem to branch out, when searching for jobs I’m not even sure what to look for as I’ve no specific career path in mind.

    Don’t be too hard on yourself; Physics is a tough degree. You are working and contributing today, albeit not on your ideal career path.

    You obviously are somewhat mechanically minded and have some technical aptitude. Would you consider segueing to tech? Reasonable coding skills plus some common sense would make you an ideal candidate for a PM or business analyst position.


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    #4990
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Hamachi wrote: »
    Honestly, I would say yes it is an issue.

    A grown man in his 30s is in his prime and should be a functioning, productive member of society. The only mitigating circumstances are a profound cognitive or physical disability, which do appear to be a factor for the poster’s cousin.

    Our demographics are trending older and the dependency ratio is narrowing. It’s important that everybody plays their part in contributing to society to ensure that we can all retire at a reasonable age.

    A 30-something man floating around in education and never holding down a full time job, is not pulling his weight. Might sound harsh, but that’s the way I see it..

    how do we determine this, and by whom?


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    #4991
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    how do we determine this, and by whom?

    The criteria are very simple.

    1. Working full time.
    2. Paying tax.


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    #4992
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Hamachi wrote: »
    The criteria are very simple.

    1. Working full time.
    2. Paying tax.

    so part time workers, and those that pay no taxes, which is virtually no one, are what exactly?


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    #4993
    Oymyakon
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Oymyakon


    Hamachi wrote: »
    Don’t be too hard on yourself; Physics is a tough degree. You are working and contributing today, albeit not on your ideal career path.

    You obviously are somewhat mechanically minded and have some technical aptitude. Would you consider segueing to tech? Reasonable coding skills plus some common sense would make you an ideal candidate for a PM or business analyst position.

    Thank you for your reassurance, what I have been looking at are data analysis positions, I did a bit of coding in college and enjoyed it but aside from that I honestly couldn’t tell you what a DA does. I’ve been totally unsuccessful on that front anyway so far. Also looking to renewable energy side of things and metrology, as I have experience there from a college internship.

    I honestly never really considered PM, I’ve always assumed it demands vast amounts of knowledge and experience in a particular field.


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    #4994
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    so part time workers, and those that pay no taxes, which is virtually no one, are what exactly?

    We’re talking about an able-bodied, cognitively functional 30-something man. There is no reason for him to be ‘part time’ in an economy that was at virtually full employment pre-Covid.


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    #4995
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Hamachi wrote: »
    We’re talking about an able-bodied, cognitively functional 30-something man. There is no reason for him to be ‘part time’ in an economy that was at virtually full employment pre-Covid.

    why not?


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    #4996
    Quazzie
    Registered Users Posts: 28,847 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    so part time workers, and those that pay no taxes, which is virtually no one, are what exactly?
    Leeches on the system


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    #4997
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    why not?

    You really can’t figure that out?


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    #4998
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Leeches on the system

    how?


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    #4999
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Hamachi wrote: »
    You really can’t figure that out?

    no, i cant, maybe this person is happy in what theyre doing?


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    #5000
    Quazzie
    Registered Users Posts: 28,847 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    how?

    Because they take more than they contribute.

    Ya know... Like a leech


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    #5001
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Quazzie wrote: »
    Because they take more than they contribute.

    Ya know... Like a leech

    so a chap in education is taking more money than lets say large corporations, large financial institutions etc, really?


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    #5002
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Oymyakon wrote: »
    Thank you for your reassurance, what I have been looking at are data analysis positions, I did a bit of coding in college and enjoyed it but aside from that I honestly couldn’t tell you what a DA does. I’ve been totally unsuccessful on that front anyway so far. Also looking to renewable energy side of things and metrology, as I have experience there from a college internship.

    I honestly never really considered PM, I’ve always assumed it demands vast amounts of knowledge and experience in a particular field.

    Not at all. You are on the right track feeling out various options. Data analysis / data science is a field that’s growing exponentially. It’s really worth exploring; there are some great opportunities emerging there.

    I suggest familiarizing yourself with R, Python and some of the visualization solutions like Tableau or Microsoft’s PowerBi.

    From what you’ve posted here, I believe you’ll get there. You are feeling around in the dark right now, but I’m confident you’ll figure it out.


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    #5003
    Quazzie
    Registered Users Posts: 28,847 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    so a chap in education is taking more money than lets say large corporations, large financial institutions etc, really?

    The larger corporations, and large financial institutions etc all employ people therefore contributing back to society and the country at large. Someone in perennial education is constantly draining the system and contributing less than they put back.

    Your post is a bit silly really if you imply otherwise. V


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    #5004
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Quazzie wrote: »
    The larger corporations, and large financial institutions etc all employ people therefore contributing back to society and the country at large. Someone in perennial education is constantly draining the system and contributing less than they put back.

    Your post is a bit silly really if you imply otherwise. V

    gimme a fcuking break, these institutions and businesses are regularly bailed out by you, bailouts are currently ongoing during covid


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    #5005
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,381 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Quazzie wrote: »
    The larger corporations, and large financial institutions etc all employ people therefore contributing back to society and the country at large. Someone in perennial education is constantly draining the system and contributing less than they put back.

    Your post is a bit silly really if you imply otherwise. V

    The poster saying it must be full time was the silly part.


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    #5006
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    so a chap in education is taking more money than lets say large corporations, large financial institutions etc, really?

    If he’s still in education as a 30-something, studying pointless material that will never unlock a viable career, yes he is consuming resources. Particularly, when he is at a stage of life to be a prime contributor.,


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    #5007
    Oymyakon
    Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Oymyakon


    Hamachi wrote: »
    Not at all. You are on the right track feeling out various options. Data analysis / data science is a field that’s growing exponentially. It’s really worth exploring; there are some great opportunities emerging there.

    I suggest familiarizing yourself with R, Python and some of the visualizations solutions like Tableau or Microsoft’s PowerBi.

    From what you’ve posted here, I believe you’ll get there. You are feeling around in the dark right now, but I’m confident you’ll figure it out.

    I’ve may have unintentially hijacked the thread to delve into my own personal woes, but Thank you for your advice, it’s a little bit of extra motivation for me to keep trying to find the right path :)


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    #5008
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users Posts: 28,838 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Hamachi wrote: »
    If he’s still in education as a 30-something, studying pointless material that will never unlock a viable career, yes he is consuming resources. Particularly, when he is at a stage of life to be a prime contributor.,

    again, who decides this, you?


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    #5009
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Oymyakon wrote: »
    I’ve may have unintentially hijacked the thread to delve into my own personal woes, but Thank you for your advice, it’s a little bit of extra motivation for me to keep trying to find the right path :)

    If you ever want to bounce around some ideas, feel free to PM.


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    #5010
    Hamachi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,419 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    again, who decides this, you?

    Yes me, plus the other 2 million + tax payers in this country, who are partially funding his choices.


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    #5011
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,312 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    When I finished school some people who were smart enough couldn't go to third level because they didn't have the money, seems to be the other extreme now where people go just to arse around for a year and then drop out making the whole thing a waste of time.


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