Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings

FintanMcluskey · 05-02-2021 08:57PM

froog wrote: »

Does no one here realise we are all going to pay for these payouts via increased premiums across the board? While the government dodge a bullet.

The few thousand €‘s increase in our insurance premiums will be the least of our worries when the austerity takes effect

Mr. Karate · 05-02-2021 08:59PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

We're not going to see the Government overrule NPHETs advice. Level 4.5 til May and then level 4 for the summer

The government will not put the economy first over health

They'll have to at some point.

FintanMcluskey · 05-02-2021 09:00PM

Graham wrote: »

Here in reality, Leo was actually talking about avoiding austerity this week.

Haha did you actually take him seriously?

The fact he mentioned austerity, is Leo’s way to prepare people for the austerity

Mr. Karate · 05-02-2021 09:00PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

The few thousand €‘s increase in our insurance premiums will be the least of our worries when the austerity takes effect

And then the Govt will wonder why the working age is leaving.

Penfailed · 05-02-2021 09:03PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Buckle up. This is going to get interesting

In what way? It's brilliant news for the 1,000 or so pubs that have this insurance cover.

Heckler · 05-02-2021 09:08PM

Eivor wrote: »

https://www.newstalk.com/news/dublin-barber-offering-lockdown-haircuts-says-hes-booked-out-every-day-1146357?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR3FReQ2qaIEMQAjF5bDyCTqhUNuCsMBzDNfKsEN8Ch5vnyLj3L2AF6Kaj0#Echobox=1612545854

Fair play to him. You have to do what it takes to survive.
Wish my barber was doing it. The head on me!

To survive...8 x 40 times a 5 day week and hes getting his PUP. 2K a week. Hes a gouging selfish cnut with no regard for anything but himself.

Juwwi · 05-02-2021 09:11PM

Heckler wrote: »

To survive...8 x 40 times a 5 day week and hes getting his PUP. 2K a week. Hes a gouging selfish cnut with no regard for anything but himself.

He's receiving Government Grants also .

"He said he is receiving some of the Government grants and supports, but it's not enough to support his business."

thebronze14 · 05-02-2021 09:18PM

Multipass wrote: »

This is horrific, surely hospitals could have put in place procedures to continue carrying these out.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/breastcheck-screenings-fell-by-more-than-two-thirds-in-2020-1.4475095

The number of mammograms carried out by the HSE’s BreastCheck screening service fell by more than two-thirds in 2020, leading to the detection of 600 fewer breast cancers.
Some 56,000 women had a full mammogram last year compared to more than 170,000 in 2019, a drop of 114,000, and mammogram numbers this year are expected to be behind again as BreastCheck operates a coronavirus-affected service.
The average number of cancers detected by BreastCheck each year is 1,050. Warning that delays will continue, the HSE said BreastCheck “does not aim to catch up on issuing outstanding invitations in the short term”.

The 'cure' to covid has been worse than the disease sadly for the most part. Sadly there is a one track vision from those leading us at the moment and long term I feel the response has done more harm than good

Penfailed · 05-02-2021 09:25PM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

I think everyone knew the bill was going to be huge. Not sure why some are claiming they had some unique insight.

Read an interesting article on tourism in Australia being hit very hard as a result of lockdown. This has been truly a global crisis.

Interesting to see people concerned for insurance companies. Go figure.

It's those that want to open everything in this thread that are taking the stance that they are the only ones that think there's a hefty bill coming. It's nonsense of course.

pjohnson · 05-02-2021 09:26PM

Juwwi wrote: »

He's receiving Government Grants also .

"He said he is receiving some of the Government grants and supports, but it's not enough to support his business."

And its the very people that complain about the "cost of lockdown" and the "damage to the economy" that then see someone who is commiting multiple fraudulent claims as a hero.

No wonder they are looking forward to the economic woes they are predicting.

Penfailed · 05-02-2021 09:28PM

PTH2009 wrote: »

We're not going to see the Government overrule NPHETs advice. Level 4.5 til May and then level 4 for the summer

The government will not put the economy first over health

Stop guessing.

05-02-2021 09:37PM

pjohnson wrote: »

And its the very people that complain about the "cost of lockdown" and the "damage to the economy" that then see someone who is commiting multiple fraudulent claims as a hero.

No wonder they are looking forward to the economic woes they are predicting.

Nobody wants the economy to crash.

But If you support lockdown, you indirectly support future austerity, recession, mass unemployment and increased cancer deaths through missed screenings.

I’d rather see how a fairly mild illness pans out than subjecting people to the above.

pgj2015 · 05-02-2021 09:46PM

40 euro for a hair cut? lol I go to a barber when they are open but im just cutting my own hair at the moment.

would 40 euro be a normal price in Dublin? or is he just charging that because people are desperate for a haircut?

I hope he is caught and fined heavily.

Windmill100000 · 05-02-2021 09:47PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Nobody wants the economy to crash.

But If you support lockdown, you indirectly support future austerity, recession, mass unemployment and increased cancer deaths through missed screenings.

I’d rather see how a fairly mild illness pans out than subjecting people to the above.

When an illness fills ICU all over country it is not fairly mild.

Penfailed · 05-02-2021 09:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Nobody wants the economy to crash.

idbatterim does. He can't wait to gloat about it. At least he has the balls to say it.

Happydays2020 · 05-02-2021 09:54PM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

When an illness fills ICU all over country it is not fairly mild.

True and I was in favour of level 5 from mid December and can see the case for them until the end of this month.

But I can never remember when our health system was not over run.

Windmill100000 · 05-02-2021 09:58PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

True and I was in favour of level 5 from mid December and can see the case for them until the end of this month.

But I can never remember when our health system was not over run.

The hospital system has been overrun in terms of general beds, absolutely. ICU at capacity across the country is a very different matter.

Happydays2020 · 05-02-2021 09:59PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

40 euro for a hair cut? lol I go to a barber when they are open but im just cutting my own hair at the moment.

would 40 euro be a normal price in Dublin? or is he just charging that because people are desperate for a haircut?

I hope he is caught and fined heavily.

I wandered into a place in Dublin a few years back. They told me it would be a few mins before someone was available, offered me a beer or a coffee. Cut my hair and then charged me 40 euro. Was handed a fancy hot towel at the end.

Following lockdown I spent EUr150 on a higher end hair clippers last April (everything cheaper was sold out). Works great and cut my hair every three weeks. I doubt I will go back to a barbers again - can do a better job than many of them and I don’t have to listen to the crap.

05-02-2021 10:00PM

Windmill100000 wrote: »

When an illness fills ICU all over country it is not fairly mild.

Good way of exaggerating 181.

Captain_Crash · 05-02-2021 10:01PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

40 euro for a hair cut? lol I go to a barber when they are open but im just cutting my own hair at the moment.

would 40 euro be a normal price in Dublin? or is he just charging that because people are desperate for a haircut?

I hope he is caught and fined heavily.

Before covid €40 would have been about the going rate for a mobile barber yeah!

Graham · 05-02-2021 10:02PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Good way of exaggerating 181.

apart from the whole full ICU thing.

Can I just check, you are actually living in Ireland?

SnuggyBear · 05-02-2021 10:02PM

Happydays2020 wrote: »

I wandered into a place in Dublin a few years back. They told me it would be a few mins before someone was available, offered me a beer or a coffee. Cut my hair and then charged me 40 euro. Was handed a fancy hot towel at the end.

Following lockdown I spent EUr150 on a higher end hair clippers last April (everything cheaper was sold out). Works great and cut my hair every three weeks. I doubt I will go back to a barbers again - can do a better job than many of them and I don’t have to listen to the crap.

I did the same, after a year of doing it I have it down pretty good. I was sick of listening to my barbers life problems anyway.

05-02-2021 10:04PM

Graham wrote: »

apart from the whole full ICU thing.

Can I just check, you are actually living in Ireland?

I am.
ICU in Ireland is not hard to fill. We have terrible capacity

Windmill100000 · 05-02-2021 10:05PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Good way of exaggerating 181.

Sorry? I'm not talking about today's number. I'm talking about when we locked down as case numbers surged. And why we have remained in lockdown to see that reduce further.

Windmill100000 · 05-02-2021 10:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I am.
ICU in Ireland is not hard to fill. We have terrible capacity

Oh, so we just dont worry about it then?

Graham · 05-02-2021 10:06PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I am.
ICU in Ireland is not hard to fill. We have terrible capacity

So you're now saying the ICUs were full because they're so small or they weren't full?

You don't appear to be sure.

05-02-2021 10:11PM

Graham wrote: »

So you're now saying the ICUs were full because they're so small or they weren't full?

You don't appear to be sure.

Windmill said Covid was not mild as ICU was full.

But what does that actually mean? What it means is even at peak we had just over 200 or something in ICU out of thousands of cases.

Hardly deadly

ypres5 · 05-02-2021 10:13PM

Graham wrote: »

So you're now saying the ICUs were full because they're so small or they weren't full?

You don't appear to be sure.

We've 7 icu beds per 100k people Germany have 30 and the EU average is about 14

Windmill100000 · 05-02-2021 10:13PM

"The ICU provides care for patients who are critically ill and require life-saving support. This includes people suffering from major trauma, heart failure, serious burns, COVID-19 and many other conditions. An ICU is home to specialized equipment and highly trained doctors, nurses and other critical care staff who can handle acute illness."

So when we have these units at capacity across the country it is a very serious problem. These people can't be treated on trolleys on general wards.

It is a big deal and it's why we are remaining in lockdown.

Windmill100000 · 05-02-2021 10:15PM

ypres5 wrote: »

We've 7 icu beds per 100k people Germany have 30 and the EU average is about 14

So even more reason to remain in lockdown.

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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII Read OP For Mod Warnings