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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,027 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Insurance companies are famous for ponying up payouts and not passing the cost on to policy holders.

    No, wait..

    Scammers gonna scam. They would raise the premiums on some other pretext if not for this.

    The good part is that entire industries are not being forced out of business and broken up for asset grabs, which is nothing to sulk about unless you are a vulture capitalist or one of their servants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,027 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Every insurance company will be putting up your car/house/pet etc premiums I fear

    I'll have to get rid of my dog :eek: So long Rover, you're free now


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Every insurance company will be putting up your car/house/pet etc premiums I fear

    Probably so, buts that’s what we’ve argued on this thread all along.

    People that want restrictions are supporting these huge future costs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Does no one here realise we are all going to pay for these payouts via increased premiums across the board? While the government dodge a bullet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,331 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    Is there any other industry that could get away with punishing the consumer for being forced to provide the service they charge for?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    froog wrote: »
    Does no one here realise we are all going to pay for these payouts via increased premiums across the board? While the government dodge a bullet.

    Not necessarily, the industry industry had yet another good year last year and will by all accounts have another good one this year.

    I know this because they have sent me 3 cheques all ready.

    They will certainly try and offset their losses, but not to the degree that people are making out.

    And even if they do, the ruling is a just one.


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    froog wrote: »
    Does no one here realise we are all going to pay for these payouts via increased premiums across the board? While the government dodge a bullet.

    The costs of these lockdowns are huge.
    No thought or analysis was ever put into them.
    Yes people are going to get screwed financially for years to come.

    Good to see people are starting to catch on though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    The costs of these lockdowns are huge.
    No thought or analysis was ever put into them.

    Who told you that?
    Good to see people are starting to catch on though.

    People are just catching on to insurance companies methods?

    Nope.


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Boggles wrote: »
    Who told you that?



    People are just catching on to insurance companies methods?

    Nope.

    A lot of people thought that business could just be closed for prolonged periods because they are worried about their health and the business and staff should just “show resilience “ as someone put it....

    Some of us knew the bill was going to be huge and we are starting to see more and more glimpses of that now.

    Leo is talking about austerity this week and having to “bridge the gap”. More taxes and spending cuts.

    Now insurers getting hit with these costs. We all know they’ll be hitting us with increased premiums.

    Soon a lot of the unemployed will be declaring bankruptcy and defaulting on loans etc.

    That bill is in the post folks. And it’s getting bigger each day


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    I think everyone knew the bill was going to be huge. Not sure why some are claiming they had some unique insight.

    Read an interesting article on tourism in Australia being hit very hard as a result of lockdown. This has been truly a global crisis.

    Interesting to see people concerned for insurance companies. Go figure.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    A lot of people thought that business could just be closed for prolonged periods because they are worried about their health and the business and staff should just “show resilience “ as someone put it....

    Some of us knew the bill was going to be huge and we are starting to see more and more glimpses of that now.

    Leo is talking about austerity this week and having to “bridge the gap”. More taxes and spending cuts.

    Now insurers getting hit with these costs. We all know they’ll be hitting us with increased premiums.

    Soon a lot of the unemployed will be declaring bankruptcy and defaulting on loans etc.

    That bill is in the post folks. And it’s getting bigger each day

    That's an epic 'interpretation'. Fair play to you.

    But if you could answer the actual simple question I asked you I'd appreciate it.
    The costs of these lockdowns are huge.
    No thought or analysis was ever put into them.
    .
    Boggles wrote: »
    Who told you that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    A lot of people thought that business could just be closed for prolonged periods because they are worried about their health and the business and staff should just “show resilience “ as someone put it....

    Some of us knew the bill was going to be huge and we are starting to see more and more glimpses of that now.

    Leo is talking about austerity this week and having to “bridge the gap”. More taxes and spending cuts.

    Now insurers getting hit with these costs. We all know they’ll be hitting us with increased premiums.

    Soon a lot of the unemployed will be declaring bankruptcy and defaulting on loans etc.

    That bill is in the post folks. And it’s getting bigger each day

    Literally not a single person thought there was not going to be a cost to this global pandemic.

    Its just not going to be the complete economic meltdowm you are hoping for.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Leo is talking about austerity this week

    Here in reality, Leo was actually talking about avoiding austerity this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 585 ✭✭✭Windmill100000


    froog wrote: »
    Literally not a single person thought there was not going to be a cost to this global pandemic.

    Its just not going to be the complete economic meltdowm you are hoping for.

    Exactly. Interesting the people on here that berate others for scaremongering do the very same thing themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭SnuggyBear




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,027 ✭✭✭growleaves


    The current restrictions are in place until March 5 when they will be reviewed by Cabinet.

    However the gloomy messaging from most politicians and health officials is that this lockdown is likely to continue well past that date.

    Link


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    froog wrote: »
    Literally not a single person thought there was not going to be a cost to this global pandemic.

    Its just not going to be the complete economic meltdowm you are hoping for.

    Really? But you kept posting about how GDP grew 3.4% and the economy would bounce right back.


  • Posts: 4,806 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Graham wrote: »
    Here in reality, Leo was actually talking about avoiding austerity this week.

    Hoping to avoid.

    But stating that bill is huge and income has been slashed and the gap needs to be bridged.

    Then some vague waffle about growth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Eivor wrote: »

    Price gouging?
    He said he's seeing around seven or eight customers a day, who are paying around €40 for a haircut

    Not all heroes wear capes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    growleaves wrote: »

    Are the Mirror trying to pawn that off as news?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Hoping to avoid.

    But stating that bill is huge and income has been slashed and the gap needs to be bridged.

    Then some vague waffle about growth.

    So not what you said previously then which was kinds the point I was making.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,235 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Boggles wrote: »
    Price gouging?



    Not all heroes wear capes.

    Doesnt want to be named as it might affect his PUP. True hero.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    froog wrote: »
    Does no one here realise we are all going to pay for these payouts via increased premiums across the board? While the government dodge a bullet.

    If Leo, Michael and Tony and co were financially on the hook for this you can bet they would have gotten over their lockdown fetish a year ago. Instead they'll feck off with their golden pensions and leave us with the Bill.

    We're all in this together my foot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    Boggles wrote: »
    Price gouging?



    Not all heroes wear capes.

    Has to cover travel and loss of bookings I suppose


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    If Leo, Michael and Tony and co were financially on the hook for this

    That's just a completely meaningless statement.

    No elected representative in any country in any part of the world is going to be 'on the hook' for their countries pandemic measures. It just makes no sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,506 ✭✭✭Seweryn


    Graham wrote: »
    That's just a completely meaningless statement.

    No elected representative in any country in any part of the world is going to be 'on the hook' for their countries pandemic measures. It just makes no sense.
    Being completely detached from reality doesn't help with making decisions for the life and future of the masses.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,643 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Seweryn wrote: »
    Being completely detached from reality doesn't help with making decisions for the life and future of the masses.

    I don't think those posters are making the decisions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,564 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    We're not going to see the Government overrule NPHETs advice. Level 4.5 til May and then level 4 for the summer

    The government will not put the economy first over health


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,678 ✭✭✭Multipass


    This is horrific, surely hospitals could have put in place procedures to continue carrying these out.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/breastcheck-screenings-fell-by-more-than-two-thirds-in-2020-1.4475095

    The number of mammograms carried out by the HSE’s BreastCheck screening service fell by more than two-thirds in 2020, leading to the detection of 600 fewer breast cancers.
    Some 56,000 women had a full mammogram last year compared to more than 170,000 in 2019, a drop of 114,000, and mammogram numbers this year are expected to be behind again as BreastCheck operates a coronavirus-affected service.
    The average number of cancers detected by BreastCheck each year is 1,050. Warning that delays will continue, the HSE said BreastCheck “does not aim to catch up on issuing outstanding invitations in the short term”.


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