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Building a shed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    Cavanjack wrote: »
    What about using steel purlins and go with a 20’ bay when you are at it?


    I don't have the 60ft unfortunately


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    mengele wrote: »
    Have you any idea on what your expecting the timber purlins and sheeting to be costing you? Is it a 3 bay it is? Will the door be located at the 40ft side?

    No im going to sheet it to 6ft walls approx. on the back and 2 gables. Leaving the 48 or 54ft open and sometime put up sliding doors or roller door so suit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    8x4 and cross bracing in 1 bay

    that's plus vat and collection

    Going to do the foundations and use 17ft 9 not 15ft 9 timbers and rejog the X brace so 2 items can be parked in the 1 bay as most trailers are 8ft or less and a 15ft 9 can be tight

    I just finished a 66 x 30 ft lean to with an additional 6ft canopy at the front (long side). Its for machinery only with 22ft bays so steel purlins. Honestly the thoughts of trying to squeeze stuff into 15ft9 or 17ft9 just doesnt make sense. I can throw the low loader/cattle trailer etc in side by side and can walk around to check tyres etc before use. One mistake by rubbing machines off each other over the life of the shed would easily pay for the wider bays if you can afford to give it the space.

    My shed has concrete floor and 5ft walls. Total cost was €22,824 incl vat which includes a few sockets and 4x LED twin flourescents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    I would be thinking the likes of a 8ft wide agri trailer etc and beside it the likes of an ifor Williams trailer of the digger or something like post driver or stuff like that

    Im only bringing air and power to one point in the centre of the middle bay and putting it on a rewind dispenser. and a stip LED in each bay

    I hope to do foundations (not a floor yet) , walls , shed up without doors and power and air and hire a teleporter for under 12k incl vat


    mythos110 wrote: »
    I just finished a 66 x 30 ft lean to with an additional 6ft canopy at the front (long side). Its for machinery only with 22ft bays so steel purlins. Honestly the thoughts of trying to squeeze stuff into 15ft9 or 17ft9 just doesnt make sense. I can through the low loader/cattle trailer etc in side by side and can walk around to check tyres etc before use. One mistake by rubbing machines off each other over the life of the shed would easily pay for the wider bays if you can afford to give it the space.

    My shed has concrete floor and 5ft walls. Total cost was €22,824 incl vat which includes a few sockets and 4x LED twin flourescents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    Should also mention my shed was about 13ft at the low side of the lean-to to allow silage trailers to the back wall. I think you might do well to get it all done at that price to be honest but more power to you if you do. Any shed is a good investment in my book


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    mythos110 wrote: »
    Should also mention my shed was about 13ft at the low side of the lean-to to allow silage trailers to the back wall. I think you might do well to get it all done at that price to be honest but more power to you if you do. Any shed is a good investment in my book

    im going 14ft pillars

    floor and doors will add another 6-10k easy and plaster the walls sometime

    we will see what happens sure


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 231 ✭✭mythos110


    Thats it. Easy to sort out after. I went with shuttered walls in case someone gets over zealous with reversing in a trailer. I have an existing A-frame shed for machinery and its a pain in the ass having to move everything out to get at something towards the back. That said its great for locking up the tools etc. The new shed is purely for the longer stuff and tractors/digger etc that each has its own spot it backs into and can be easily moved without having to spend half the day moving things around. Best of luck with it anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    mythos110 wrote: »
    Thats it. Easy to sort out after. I went with shuttered walls in case someone gets over zealous with reversing in a trailer. I have an existing A-frame shed for machinery and its a pain in the ass having to move everything out to get at something towards the back. That said its great for locking up the tools etc. The new shed is purely for the longer stuff and tractors/digger etc that each has its own spot it backs into and can be easily moved without having to spend half the day moving things around. Best of luck with it anyway.

    you also

    Stick up pictures when you get a chance please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Got a price today on a shed.

    33ft x 35ft shed. 12ft to the eaves
    8 x 4 steel.
    Primed and painted
    All steel purlins for roof and one row on the side.

    €4500 including vat.

    No sheet work.

    Thought it wasnt a bad price.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭mengele


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Got a price today on a shed.

    33ft x 35ft shed. 12ft to the eaves
    8 x 4 steel.
    Primed and painted
    All steel purlins for roof and one row on the side.

    €4500 including vat.

    No sheet work.

    Thought it wasnt a bad price.

    Would you not go a bit longer? Doubt with that length you could fit a tractor attached to a slurry tank into it without the bum of the slurry tank being outside?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    mengele wrote: »
    Would you not go a bit longer? Doubt with that length you could fit a tractor attached to a slurry tank into it without the bum of the slurry tank being outside?

    I'm at my limit at that. Literally using every square inch of the area I have left to git that in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭ADKELMAC


    Looking at building a shed at the moment.
    Level site, good access.
    47’x 30’. 12’ to the eaves

    Option 1:
    Price :€17,000 + vat
    Contractor doing all the work.
    Foundations
    8 x 4 steel
    8’ shuttered walls down the two 47’ sides
    8’ shuttered wall on one gable.
    Vented sheeting to the walls
    One gable open.
    Shed floor poured (unsure of depth, assuming 6”)

    Option 2:
    Same shed size
    €9,000 + vat

    I prepare the foundations
    Contractor supplies and stands shed, sheeting included
    No walls
    No floor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    ADKELMAC wrote: »
    Looking at building a shed at the moment.
    Level site, good access.
    47’x 30’. 12’ to the eaves

    Option 1:
    Price :€17,000 + vat
    Contractor doing all the work.
    Foundations
    8 x 4 steel
    8’ shuttered walls down the two 47’ sides
    8’ shuttered wall on one gable.
    Vented sheeting to the walls
    One gable open.
    Shed floor poured (unsure of depth, assuming 6”)

    Option 2:
    Same shed size
    €9,000 + vat

    I prepare the foundations
    Contractor supplies and stands shed, sheeting included
    No walls
    No floor

    Nearly double the price for the concrete


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭ADKELMAC


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Nearly double the price for the concrete

    47 cubic meters I estimate.

    7 for foundations
    20 ish for walls
    20 ish for the floor


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭ADKELMAC


    ADKELMAC wrote: »
    47 cubic meters I estimate.

    7 for foundations
    20 ish for walls
    20 ish for the floor

    Maybe a bit more,1-2 cubes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,452 ✭✭✭Grueller


    ADKELMAC wrote: »
    Maybe a bit more,1-2 cubes

    €8k extra for the concrete. Say 50 metres for talks sake. 50 x €75 = €3750. Hire of shutters for the job plus striking oil, ties etc say €1000. Digger to level and dig foundations say €500.

    That is €5250. I am estimating slightly high everywhere. Saving of €2750 for not massive work, IF you have help at home and a good tractor loader combo or a telehandler to move shutters and fill them. If not the contractor is the way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭have2flushtwice


    I havent built a shed but following this thread as I intend in a lean to for some small machines.
    I don't doubt the prices given but it's a lot of money.

    Anyone care to put up pictures of a shed they have built that didn't cost a fortune?

    in my example I've a few girders around the yard. I intend to use a corner b3tween a wall and an existing shed.door, if it's lucky will be a gate with galvanize ten screwed. the yard is secure but nothing is guaranteed....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭Stihl waters


    Steel prices are expected to rise by 25 percent in next few weeks due to shortages, that's coming from a welder I know in galway area, I've a shed to build myself and he'll be doing it for me so he told me order the steel asap


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Vittu


    Stainless steel already increased by 20%.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,313 ✭✭✭enricoh


    Bought steel today n nearly got a heart attack. All steel up 30-40% since the new year , cladding up 50%. Any time in the last year or two I bought timber it had taken a hike too, big shortage of it here.
    U'd want to be sitting down pricing sheds now I'd say!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    enricoh wrote: »
    Bought steel today n nearly got a heart attack. All steel up 30-40% since the new year , cladding up 50%. Any time in the last year or two I bought timber it had taken a hike too, big shortage of it here.
    U'd want to be sitting down pricing sheds now I'd say!

    And it will only get worse I'd say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭mengele


    Has anyone used tata cladding? Lots of the kit sheds are offering that. How does it compare to tegral?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52 ✭✭ADKELMAC


    Grueller wrote: »
    €8k extra for the concrete. Say 50 metres for talks sake. 50 x €75 = €3750. Hire of shutters for the job plus striking oil, ties etc say €1000. Digger to level and dig foundations say €500.

    That is €5250. I am estimating slightly high everywhere. Saving of €2750 for not massive work, IF you have help at home and a good tractor loader combo or a telehandler to move shutters and fill them. If not the contractor is the way to go.

    Grueller

    I d say you’re fairly spot in with those prices. As you mentioned there at the end doing some work ourselves. Unfortunately there’s no tractor loader combo here. I’d need to hire everything so despite the bigger price the contractor route looks more appealing. I might be better off going to work and leaving him at it. I suppose at least I’d have the capital write off against the little profit I make. By the looks of it here prices are rising fast. There ll be plenty work for me to do after the shed is up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Track9


    Farm Shed to Construct.

    Can anyone help, please?
    I'm close to starting building a ( Dry Storage Shed 40 x 20 ) &
    Step 2 will be a 2/3 Bay Slatted House.
    The Dry Shed looks like a Ready Mix of circa 20 m cubed. ( Probably 30 N ) No grant.
    Can someone please give me an idea as to what might be the best price for Concrete Readymix per cubic meter excluding the Vat?
    If any recommendations on steel Suppliers I would be grateful as it's a big undertaking for a Suckler Farm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 889 ✭✭✭mengele


    If you buy a shed kit from up the north today, are you allowed to claim back the vat at all due to brexit? I presume not anymore?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,429 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Track9 wrote: »
    Farm Shed to Construct.

    Can anyone help, please?
    I'm close to starting building a ( Dry Storage Shed 40 x 20 ) &
    Step 2 will be a 2/3 Bay Slatted House.
    The Dry Shed looks like a Ready Mix of circa 20 m cubed. ( Probably 30 N ) No grant.
    Can someone please give me an idea as to what might be the best price for Concrete Readymix per cubic meter excluding the Vat?
    If any recommendations on steel Suppliers I would be grateful as it's a big undertaking for a Suckler Farm.


    Concrete prices around here vary, mostly according to how far away you are from the quarry, i got quotes from €79 up to €88 per cubic meter last summer for 35N.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 254 ✭✭Track9


    Here in West Cork Readymix is 90 / 95 euros per meter. ( Not much competition )
    Will put 4 inches of concrete on the Floor ( 30 Newtons )
    8-inch walls 4 foot high. All cladded with 0.6 mils from wall up.
    19 ft at Eaves & 21 ft at the apex.
    Quoted 7 k + Vat for Shed including the H Irons.

    All in talk of 15/ 17 k at moment.
    Any comments or suggested Suppliers for the Shed Itself ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Track9 wrote: »
    Here in West Cork Readymix is 90 / 95 euros per meter. ( Not much competition )
    Will put 4 inches of concrete on the Floor ( 30 Newtons )
    8-inch walls 4 foot high. All cladded with 0.6 mils from wall up.
    19 ft at Eaves & 21 ft at the apex.
    Quoted 7 k + Vat for Shed including the H Irons.

    All in talk of 15/ 17 k at moment.
    Any comments or suggested Suppliers for the Shed Itself ???

    I ordered my shed yesterday. 32ft x 33ft. 13ft to eaves. Steel purlins and 8x4 Iron. €4500 inc vat.
    A frame
    Not including sheeting atm. Just waiting on price on that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Tileman


    Reggie. wrote: »
    I ordered my shed yesterday. 32ft x 33ft. 13ft to eaves. Steel purlins and 8x4 Iron. €4500 inc vat.
    Not including shorting atm. Just waiting on price on that

    Who did u order from reggie. I am trying to get a new sheep shed up here . Basic enough 60x40 and cannot get anyone to quite.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,619 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Tileman wrote: »
    Who did u order from reggie. I am trying to get a new sheep shed up here . Basic enough 60x40 and cannot get anyone to quite.

    Midland cladding in kilbeggan. Look for sean or willie. No harm in pricing them


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