Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

deiseindublin · 01-02-2021 02:00AM

I wonder does option 1 mean getting a CG, and then the choice of doing the exam, as per 2020?

Or some version of exams in English, Irish, Maths and CG for the others?

km79 · 01-02-2021 09:04AM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40217849.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0201/1194218-covid-19-ireland/
Decision expected this week

Irish times saying special education could return next week.....

The Wordress · 01-02-2021 10:22AM

km79 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40217849.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0201/1194218-covid-19-ireland/
Decision expected this week

Irish times saying special education could return next week.....

I still can't see SEN classes reopening next week.

Also, as someone made the point. It would be more distruption if children were back at school for a week and off again the following week for Midterm.

After Midterm is a better option, to me.

Sanjuro · 01-02-2021 10:31AM

Sorry, I'm just venting a bit, but I am absolutely effing sick of the government dragging their feet on this. After last year, you'd expect anyone half competent to come up with a plan to deal with any future disruption. But all we have is the government on one side, the teachers on the other and parents stuck in the middle. And I don't blame the teachers. The government, and in particular, this robot they've put in charge of the department of education have been an absolute shambles and I have not a shred of faith in anything they say or do. I've two young kids, both in infants, who I cant keep trying to explain why their days are all the same, why they cant see their friends, and why we have to try and do a little bit of homework before dad has to disappear upstairs again, to try and get a bit of work done before the next request for a drink, a sandwich or an arse wipe comes in. I'm ****ing sick of the feet dragging and the indecisions. I dunno. Maybe it's because it's another Monday. But today I'm finding it particularly difficult.

Right. Now to go down and do Busy At Maths again.

khalessi · 01-02-2021 10:35AM

km79 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40217849.html

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0201/1194218-covid-19-ireland/
Decision expected this week

Irish times saying special education could return next week.....

IF they are opening SEN I would like to see greatly enhanced PPE

TTLF · 01-02-2021 10:41AM

I guess it'll be explained but like, do we just decide for ourselves what we want a predicted grade in as the "option" or how does that work...

I mean as it stands I'm "failing" a class, so I don't want to drop it for a predicted grade, but also would I want to sit the exam? I'm a little confused.

mloc123 · 01-02-2021 10:45AM

The Wordress wrote: »

I still can't see SEN classes reopening next week.

Also, as someone made the point. It would be more distruption if children were back at school for a week and off again the following week for Midterm.

After Midterm is a better option, to me.

Mid term should only be 2 days for primary school this year? It is set as 2 days, with the option of 5 (if no days had been lost)... but 3 days were lost back at the start of Jan

mloc123 · 01-02-2021 10:49AM

appledrop wrote: »

The positively rate in creches from Covid 19 testing now stands at 10% for last 2 weeks.

Before this since August average was 5%.

Yes kids are in close contact in creche, but so are kids in primary school. Also any creches that are back have seriously reduced numbers. Your talking about 4 or 5 max in a room.

You are kinda explaining the reason for the high rate... there are fewer kids in creche, the ones that are in creche are the children of frontline/essential workers... who themselves are more exposed to catching the virus and in turn passing it to their kids.

khalessi · 01-02-2021 10:56AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Mid term should only be 2 days for primary school this year? It is set as 2 days, with the option of 5 (if no days had been lost)... but 3 days were lost back at the start of Jan

They were not lost but given as extended holidays. It is a nuance but there all the same.

Millem · 01-02-2021 11:00AM

mloc123 wrote: »

You are kinda explaining the reason for the high rate... there are fewer kids in creche, the ones that are in creche are the children of frontline/essential workers... who themselves are more exposed to catching the virus and in turn passing it to their kids.

The list of “essential workers” is a joke. All 3 children that are being sent in in my son’s Montessori have parents that are working from home!!!

downthemiddle · 01-02-2021 11:01AM

Sanjuro wrote: »

Sorry, I'm just venting a bit, but I am absolutely effing sick of the government dragging their feet on this. After last year, you'd expect anyone half competent to come up with a plan to deal with any future disruption. But all we have is the government on one side, the teachers on the other and parents stuck in the middle. And I don't blame the teachers. The government, and in particular, this robot they've put in charge of the department of education have been an absolute shambles and I have not a shred of faith in anything they say or do. I've two young kids, both in infants, who I cant keep trying to explain why their days are all the same, why they cant see their friends, and why we have to try and do a little bit of homework before dad has to disappear upstairs again, to try and get a bit of work done before the next request for a drink, a sandwich or an arse wipe comes in. I'm ****ing sick of the feet dragging and the indecisions. I dunno. Maybe it's because it's another Monday. But today I'm finding it particularly difficult.

Right. Now to go down and do Busy At Maths again.

Skip the Busy at Maths today. Forget about Aistear. Take your children out for a walk. Explore your surroundings. Look under rocks and see what you find. Break the monotony and clear your head.

billy_beckham · 01-02-2021 11:21AM

khalessi wrote: »

They were not lost but given as extended holidays. It is a nuance but there all the same.

The opportunity for learning was lost.

If they can agree a return with the unions all the holidays should be looked at, Mid-Term, Easter and in my daughters school the week off in June.

monkeybutter · 01-02-2021 11:25AM

Millem wrote: »

The list of “essential workers” is a joke. All 3 children that are being sent in in my son’s Montessori have parents that are working from home!!!

what job are they doing from home

khalessi · 01-02-2021 11:26AM

billy_beckham wrote: »

The opportunity for learning was lost.

If they can agree a return with the unions all the holidays should be looked at, Mid-Term, Easter and in my daughters school the week off in June.

I would be very surprised if the holidays changed, don't really see it happening.

billy_beckham · 01-02-2021 11:31AM

khalessi wrote: »

I would be very surprised if the holidays changed, don't really see it happening.

Genuine question, why not?

mloc123 · 01-02-2021 11:32AM

billy_beckham wrote: »

Genuine question, why not?

Unions

Treppen · 01-02-2021 11:33AM

km79 wrote: »

Front page of examiner tomorrow has details of the “hybrid leaving cert”
3 options on the table with final decision to be made later in week
1. Calculated grade and written papers
2. Calculated grades only
3. More open access to college

Option 1 is the “lead option “

I am sure it will be implemented flawlessly......

Interesting it's d'Examiner gets the inside story this time.
Not that I'm accusing any Cork politician of leaking a story...:pac:

billy_beckham · 01-02-2021 11:35AM

Treppen wrote: »

Interesting it's d'Examiner gets the inside story this time.
Not that I'm accusing any Cork politician of leaking a story...:pac:

Hard to get something out before Leo the Leak...:)

billy_beckham · 01-02-2021 11:37AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Unions

Possibly, but if changes can be made left right and centre because we're in a pandemic, surely holidays can be looked at?

Has to work both ways....New normal..

BonsaiKitten · 01-02-2021 11:39AM

billy_beckham wrote: »

Genuine question, why not?

Because I'm contracted to teach 183 days per year and by the end of the school year, those days will have been worked. I'm not working additional days for free.

Before someone starts with the "but but but lists of work aren't teaching" argument, my class are in live lessons every day. They're working very hard, they'll need their break too.

Now, you have the 3 days they set as holidays. Who knows what will happen there, certainly we worked those days in my school. I think the fact that they named them as extended holidays will play into it.

Stateofyou · 01-02-2021 11:47AM

We have been working full time and helping our kids with school on top of it, while running a house and everything else that goes with it. My kids are tired too. We all need a break and especially for mental health. Would not be in favour of changing holidays/adding in more school days.

Deeec · 01-02-2021 11:51AM

khalessi wrote: »

I would be very surprised if the holidays changed, don't really see it happening.

I think the holidays are well deserved this year. I wouldnt like to see them cut.
I think the time could be clawed back by scrapping unnecessary activities in school for a few weeks. I can only speak for primary - In my kids school every week in May-June they have a theme - pottery, tennis, rugby etc where the kids spend a few hours per week doing an activity relating to the theme. I would like to see this scrapped as being honest the kids get very little out of it.

wirelessdude01 · 01-02-2021 12:06PM

Deeec wrote: »

I think the holidays are well deserved this year. I wouldnt like to see them cut.
I think the time could be clawed back by scrapping unnecessary activities in school for a few weeks. I can only speak for primary - In my kids school every week in May-June they have a theme - pottery, tennis, rugby etc where the kids spend a few hours per week doing an activity relating to the theme. I would like to see this scrapped as being honest the kids get very little out of it.

They get very little out of it!!!! What a silly comment. School isn't about the three W's as they were described when priests and nuns ran the place. Primary school is far more than academics.

Millem · 01-02-2021 12:09PM

monkeybutter wrote: »

what job are they doing from home

I suppose they work in finance/administration? I know another mum who is on maternity leave and her husband is working remotely from home. His job is not on the list but I am sure it probably could be put into financial/admin! Her job is but she is on maternity leave. They are sending their daughter into crèche.
We were told we could send my son too. My husband works in finance/education. I am on maternity leave and am a teacher.

Unless you absolutely have to leave your house for work realistically your job shouldn’t be on the list in level 5. The advise is stay at home unless it’s absolutely necessary. It is carnage here trying to breastfeed a baby, homeschool and have a 3 year old but it is what it is. We just have to suck it up for another while

Deeec · 01-02-2021 12:12PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

They get very little out of it!!!! What a silly comment. School isn't about the three W's as they were described when priests and nuns ran the place. Primary school is far more than academics.

WOW Im giving an example of how time could be clawed back in an EXCEPTIONAL year. Last year I volunteered to help for pottery. The lady spent an hour setting up. Each child got 15 mins of pottery. The rest of the time was spent cleaning up.

My husband volunteered for Rugby which was coached by an tw0 18 year old with no interest whatsoever in the kids who just spoke to each other. We as parents paid for all these activities. Trust me it was a waste of time. Kids can do all this stuff out of school time for this year. This has nothing to do with priests or nuns - dont know what you are referring to here.

BonsaiKitten · 01-02-2021 01:21PM

Honestly there is a lot of fluff in primary schools. Those bloody flags for everything spring to mind...Active Flag, Yellow Flag, Green Flag. There's a feckin celebration week for everything. And then you've bits like the Blue Star or the Communion/Confirmation prep eating away at the time too.

I don't mind SOME of these things but some schools try to do everything under the sun. These all need to be reined in a bit imo. But that's me speaking generally, not me speaking Covid-ly.

billy_beckham · 01-02-2021 01:31PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Because I'm contracted to teach 183 days per year and by the end of the school year, those days will have been worked. I'm not working additional days for free.

Before someone starts with the "but but but lists of work aren't teaching" argument, my class are in live lessons every day. They're working very hard, they'll need their break too.

Now, you have the 3 days they set as holidays. Who knows what will happen there, certainly we worked those days in my school. I think the fact that they named them as extended holidays will play into it.

I'm not suggesting that you work for free, merely saying holidays be pulled forward into this period of online learning.

wirelessdude01 · 01-02-2021 01:32PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Honestly there is a lot of fluff in primary schools. Those bloody flags for everything spring to mind...Active Flag, Yellow Flag, Green Flag. There's a feckin celebration week for everything. And then you've bits like the Blue Star or the Communion/Confirmation prep eating away at the time too.

I don't mind SOME of these things but some schools try to do everything under the sun. These all need to be reined in a bit imo. But that's me speaking generally, not me speaking Covid-ly.

I'd agree. We do one thing a year. Now we have coaches for soccer, rugby and GAA in throughout the year but I have to say they are all excellent. Leinster Rugby especially are excellent.

I do as little as humanly possible for confirmation.

BonsaiKitten · 01-02-2021 01:45PM

billy_beckham wrote: »

I'm not suggesting that you work for free, merely saying holidays be pulled forward into this period of online learning.

So...if they announced tonight, 9 days? I don't know. I think they do need some of their breaks tbh, kids can get very tired towards the end of the term. I see that with my crew a lot atm on Zoom, they'll need the midterm in two weeks.

Maybe finish at the end of this week and come back a week early from midterm. But that's as much as I'd change personally.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 01-02-2021 03:16PM

LC's interest level really starting to wane, hard blame them, they don't know what they're preparing for.

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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01