Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

Wombatman · 30-01-2021 09:29PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Of course they are not.

Look up.

helpful · 30-01-2021 09:30PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Are teachers really creating their own content in isolation? Sounds completely ludicrous in this day and age. So much content already out there online.

Imagine the uproar if we didn’t? This forum would be full of people saying the teacher isn’t doing any work. I use ideas that have worked for friends of mine but have to alter the majority of it to suit my gang.

khalessi · 30-01-2021 09:30PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Of course they are not.

You might not be but others including myself are

teachinggal123 · 30-01-2021 09:30PM

This thread has entered the twilight zone at this point!

Are some teachers now trying to claim that the government closed the schools!!! As opposed to the teachers unions??

BonsaiKitten · 30-01-2021 09:30PM

khalessi wrote: »

Yup I am anyways as I have to tailor it to suit my students so I make my own worksheets and instructions. I also source videos to help explain the topic and methodology as I would do in school. This adds hours onto an already too long day and takes time away from my kids education and family time.

All of which is far more stressful than teaching face to face...I know, I was on that treadmill last summer. Now that my school just does live lessons I actually find the whole thing far less stressful and workload is halved, if not more. But - as I've said on here before - that only works for a very small group of schools.

Teachers are trying their best. Really, they are.

Stateofyou · 30-01-2021 09:30PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Even the language used by some posters is quite telling, "We", "We all" "Us all" just goes to demonstrate the hive mind mentality.

Why do some posters refer to themselves collectively as we?

I don't envy you if that's the culture you're faced with in the workplace.

I didn't see you posting this when other posters came on to derail the thread painting teachers with the same brush and claiming to speak for all parents.

Why is that?

teachinggal123 · 30-01-2021 09:32PM

khalessi wrote: »

You might not be but others including myself are

So you are not collaborating with any colleagues? Or talking to other teachers? Or friends? Or taking part in online discussion forums with other teachers? Or getting any other help from the school?

May I ask why?

This sounds like a very bad approach.

deiseindublin · 30-01-2021 09:33PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

I would be very interested to hear what the (usually very vocal) teachers on this thread think of this?

Teachers, is this acceptable? Should this teacher be sanctioned in any way?

Is THIS your big question? What do I think of this teachers work effort? If it's true, I think it's not ideal, I think the class would prefer more contact, I think it's not typical, I think that it sounds like something happened, maybe a bereavement/breakdown/struggle with family duties/etc etc.

I also think that it's true that there should be minimum standards across schools, and the DES haven't done that.

Bananaleaf · 30-01-2021 09:33PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Are teachers really creating their own content in isolation? Sounds completely ludicrous in this day and age. So much content already out there online.

Not only do I create my own content, I have to edit and redesign it in some way every year. Not by much, the bulk of the work would be done first time around, but - as cliché as it sounds - no two classes are alike so a one-size-fits-all, while you could get away with it, will not get you the most out of your students

billy_beckham · 30-01-2021 09:33PM

History Queen wrote: »

Priceless. I'm out.

>2 hours ago...still hanging around hitting refresh and thanks button though...

khalessi · 30-01-2021 09:34PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

So you are not collaborating with any colleagues? Or talking to other teachers? Or friends? Or taking part in online discussion forums with other teachers? Or getting any other help from the school?

May I ask why?

This sounds like a very bad approach.

WHy is it a bad approach?

teachinggal123 · 30-01-2021 09:34PM

deiseindublin wrote: »

Well, Poster T complains ad nauseum that teachers don't teach over lockdown.
Poster T then admits they didn't teach last lockdown either.

I don't know, would you by any stretch of the imagination call that hypocritical?

Who is "poster T"?

You'll have to stop talking in riddles and be a bit braver than that.

helpful · 30-01-2021 09:34PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

This thread has entered the twilight zone at this point!

Are some teachers now trying to claim that the government closed the schools!!! As opposed to the teachers unions??

I must have been dreaming MM’s speech in which he said schools are closed. Yes unions had an issue with the reopening plan (we all know why) but if we were told we have to go on Monday then we’d be in.
Also again I see you say that your question wasn’t answered earlier in the thread and I have directed you to where it has been.

deiseindublin · 30-01-2021 09:36PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Who is "poster T"?

You'll have to stop talking in riddles and be a bit braver than that.

I'd hazard a guess that cryptic crosswords aren't really your thing!

teachinggal123 · 30-01-2021 09:36PM

helpful wrote: »

I must have been dreaming MM’s speech in which he said schools are closed. Yes unions had an issue with the reopening plan (we all know why) but if we were told we have to go on Monday then we’d be in.

Are you seriously claiming that it was not the teachers unions that closed the schools? Really?

If so, I think you should think about how this might alienate the non-teachers reading this thread.

downthemiddle · 30-01-2021 09:36PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Can the government tell them to go to work?

Whenever they want.

BTW I'm still waiting for you to answer my questions. I hope you're not avoiding them.

wirelessdude01 · 30-01-2021 09:36PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Can the government tell them to go to work?

Government has the power to tell schools to reopen. You'd have to wonder what information they are privy to that they have totally rowed back on the language in relation to schools and insistence that for instance the traditional leaving certificate would take place. You have to look at what they aren't saying.

Wombatman · 30-01-2021 09:37PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Yep. I was at my kitchen table at 7:30 this morning.

It has to be tailored to how they are taking it on board, how quickly they are progressing with new concepts and where we need to take a step back inorder to take two steps forward.

For instance the likes of shape in space might be given a week in the scheme. It doesn't need that much time so I tailor it so that I can gain extra time that can be allocated to something that requires it.

So hundreds of teachers all over the country are creating video explaining the same concepts and covering the same curriculum. Absolutely bonkers. Ye might as well write yer own individual textbooks while ye are at it.

Horrible duplication of work. Very little reuse value if tailored as much as you say. What a waste of time.

Would you be better off doing it live in that case? At least that way it's interactive.

teachinggal123 · 30-01-2021 09:37PM

deiseindublin wrote: »

I'd hazard a guess that cryptic crosswords aren't really your thing!

I'm brave enough to say it straight.

khalessi · 30-01-2021 09:38PM

Wombatman wrote: »

So hundreds of teachers all over the country are creating video explaining the same concepts and covering the same curriculum. Absolutely bonkers. Ye might as well write yer own individual textbooks while ye are at it.

Horrible duplication of work. Very little reuse value if tailored as much as you say. What a waste of time.

Would you be better off doing it live in that case? At least that way it's interactive.

Totally bonkers we did ask DES for central body these could be dowloaded from but they declined to follow that up

Locotastic · 30-01-2021 09:38PM

Stateofyou wrote: »

I didn't see you posting this when other posters came on to derail the thread painting teachers with the same brush and claiming to speak for all parents.

Why is that?

I didn't even mention teachers so why do you assume I'm referring to "them".

deiseindublin · 30-01-2021 09:38PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

I'm brave enough to say it straight.

What, that you did SFA for the last lockdown, and are now here day in day out banging the same drum about lazy teachers that didn't perform?

teachinggal123 · 30-01-2021 09:38PM

khalessi wrote: »

WHy is it a bad approach?

Do you think its best practice?

What do you see as the main advantages?

Crocodile Booze · 30-01-2021 09:38PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

I'm brave enough to say it straight.

Okay, I'm new here, and I'm not a teacher, but is this a parody account with an ironic username?

downthemiddle · 30-01-2021 09:39PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Are you seriously claiming that it was not the teachers unions that closed the schools? Really?

If so, I think you should think about how this might alienate the non-teachers reading this thread.

It probably won't alienate them as much as a teacher who openly admits to abdicating their responsibility to teach their students, while blaming others for their wholly unprofessional attitude.

helpful · 30-01-2021 09:39PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Are you seriously claiming that it was not the teachers unions that closed the schools? Really?

If so, I think you should think about how this might alienate the non-teachers reading this thread.

Unions don’t have the power to close schools. The government did that.

Stateofyou · 30-01-2021 09:40PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

So you are not collaborating with any colleagues? Or talking to other teachers? Or friends? Or taking part in online discussion forums with other teachers? Or getting any other help from the school?

May I ask why?

This sounds like a very bad approach.

Are you? What are you doing? What have you learned to do this year that you didn't do last year? You said you aren't getting any support from your own school now you confront someone else on whether they are? The aggressiveness continues. Can't see what your line of attack has to do with schools reopening.

teachinggal123 · 30-01-2021 09:41PM

deiseindublin wrote: »

What, that you did SFA for the last lockdown, and are now here day in day out banging the same drum about lazy teachers that didn't perform?

I haven't been on this thread in about 2 weeks as I've been too busy working.

And yes, I'm brave enough to say it straight as opposed to indirectly insulting someone via some sort of "cryptic crossword".

yrreg0850 · 30-01-2021 09:41PM

Locotastic wrote: »

Can the government tell them to go to work?

If the Govt tells them go to work and they refuse , they are then on strike !!!!

Stateofyou · 30-01-2021 09:42PM

teachinggal123 wrote: »

Are you seriously claiming that it was not the teachers unions that closed the schools? Really?
If so, I think you should think about how this might alienate the non-teachers reading this thread.

It is really very simple.

The Government closed the schools.

The Union objected to a reopening in specific circumstances. And there's a lot more to it than that but of course you know that already.

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