The Dominance of Dublin GAA Mod warning post#1

blanch152 · 27-01-2021 07:36PM

Enquiring wrote: »

Oh dear, you're doubling down on this. You do know the role of the Strategic development officer? It's his job to oversee all of this, his job to know exactly where the development money is going and the work done under the games development banner. It's literally his exact job but you're claiming to know better than him. He states that the coaches role is under the direction of the clubs. His name is Kevin O'Shaughnessy and here are some direct quotes: "The coaches work very much in tune with what the particular club wants." And on their qualifications: "It is a high standard that allows them to train the trainers in each club to a high quality."

That's not enough for you? How about former coaching and games officer for Dublin GAA; Ger O'Connor: "The coaches don't just concentrate on hurling or football. They organise everything within a club and camogie and ladies football get the benefit too."

Still not enough? You want someone on the ground right? How about someone who's been there throughout this whole operation? Long serving Dublin GAA GPO Pauric McDonald had this to say on his observation of Dublin development squads from when he set out 2 decades ago to the current time: "I went back the following year to an U15 development squad. And if you were to compare the quality of player coming through then to the U13s now, the difference is night and day. Kids were coming into us without the basic skills. They were kick-passing a five-yard pass instead of hand-passing it but their instinct was to kick it along the ground. So they obviously hadn’t been exposed to any level of coaching. I look now at U14 football in Dublin and the standard of football in the county is phenomenal. The level of individual skill the players have, the level of coaching teams, it’s incomparable to the late ’90s, early ’00s. And a big reason why is obviously the GDO system going into Dublin."

All of this goes against your claim that it's all about juvenile participation. Do you have the contact details of the Dublin county board so you can correct them on this?

Not a single link to the quotations taken out of context, and the clear contradictions in everything you are posting is plain and obvious.

Everything in your post is about the coaching of kids, the improvement of the volunteer coaches that leads to the improvement in enjoyment for kids who can handle the basic skill of kicking a ball.

What your quotes are showing is that GDOs are working to ensure that coaching a 12-year old to hand-pass the ball and kick out of hands rather than along the ground so that they can get more enjoyment out of the game. That is exactly what I am saying.

You are extrapolating that to mean that somehow the Dublin senior football team is better as a result. At the best of times, that is a stretch.

It is unbelievable that you are so dead against ordinary kids being coached properly to kick and hand-pass the ball so that they can enjoy the game.

ArielAtom · 27-01-2021 07:47PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Not a single link to the quotations taken out of context, and the clear contradictions in everything you are posting is plain and obvious.

Everything in your post is about the coaching of kids, the improvement of the volunteer coaches that leads to the improvement in enjoyment for kids who can handle the basic skill of kicking a ball.

What your quotes are showing is that GDOs are working to ensure that coaching a 12-year old to hand-pass the ball and kick out of hands rather than along the ground so that they can get more enjoyment out of the game. That is exactly what I am saying.

You are extrapolating that to mean that somehow the Dublin senior football team is better as a result. At the best of times, that is a stretch.

It is unbelievable that you are so dead against ordinary kids being coached properly to kick and hand-pass the ball so that they can enjoy the game.

Blanch, what you are trying to do is logic with a person who refuses. It’s a losing battle. I posted links to a GPO on Twitter that very much backed up what you are saying but one poster picked up on “and occasionally go into secondary schools”. I have 1st hand experience in it since the Dublin only program that contrary to our resident contrarian ran from 2007 to 2017, the GDO was so stretched that we only saw him at our sessions for a max of 5 over a 7yr period. Elite coaching my arse, trying to teach parents with no GAA background to coach is a thankless task, if that’s another of their tasks. It does not suit some posters rhetoric to recognise that. It’s all about funding and splitting, probably to ensure their own county become competitive again. One poster even did similar in the rugby forum before landing in here, just posted drivel with no backup.

Enquiring · 27-01-2021 08:18PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Not a single link to the quotations taken out of context, and the clear contradictions in everything you are posting is plain and obvious.

Everything in your post is about the coaching of kids, the improvement of the volunteer coaches that leads to the improvement in enjoyment for kids who can handle the basic skill of kicking a ball.

What your quotes are showing is that GDOs are working to ensure that coaching a 12-year old to hand-pass the ball and kick out of hands rather than along the ground so that they can get more enjoyment out of the game. That is exactly what I am saying.

You are extrapolating that to mean that somehow the Dublin senior football team is better as a result. At the best of times, that is a stretch.

It is unbelievable that you are so dead against ordinary kids being coached properly to kick and hand-pass the ball so that they can enjoy the game.

As I said, you will need to contact the Dublin county board and let them know that you know more than the appointed Strategic development manager and other highly experienced Dublin GAA employees.

Contrary to your claim, the main role of the coaches is within the clubs their appointed to. Improving standards within the club, that's playing standards and coaching standards, is their priority. This obviously leads to a higher degree of talent within the club. These players get selected for development squads. You don't appear to know what a development squad is? It's basically elite development, the best players from the clubs are brought in to train with each other at their age level. The changes in standards of these development squads have been dramatic. Pauric McDonald puts it down to the GDO's.

Now, where do these development squads go? They move up their age groups and eventually we get to minor and u20 level. Here we have seen an incredible change in fortunes in Dublin GAA. Dublin won 12 titles in hurling and football at these age groups between 1980 and 2000, they have won 37 titles between 2000-2020. And guess what? These players eventually become overage for u20 football and hurling, what happens then? They move up to senior level.

The landscape has also changed there. The players that have come through the system under the GDO's have led to a major increase in titles. Dublin clubs won 8 titles including 1 All Ireland between 1980 and 2000 in hurling and football, between 2000 and 2020, Dublin clubs have won 19 titles including 6 All Ireland's. I haven't even included Ladies football in there which adds to the evidence further.

Does it end there? Where do inter county teams get their players from? It wouldn't be clubs within their county, would it? I don't think you'll need me to go into detail here but the transformation of Dublin at senior level has been just as incredible as with underage football and hurling and club football and hurling. You can't buy players in GAA so having a highly financed elite player development system is the next best thing. Dublin have 30,000 or less registered players aged between 8-18, these are the targets for elite development. The GDO's have made a huge difference across Dublin GAA. The results speak for themselves.

Why do you think Dublin should have had this elite talent system financed for them for 2 decades while every other county got very little?

Enquiring · 27-01-2021 08:32PM

ArielAtom wrote: »

Blanch, what you are trying to do is logic with a person who refuses. It’s a losing battle. I posted links to a GPO on Twitter that very much backed up what you are saying but one poster picked up on “and occasionally go into secondary schools”. I have 1st hand experience in it since the Dublin only program that contrary to our resident contrarian ran from 2007 to 2017, the GDO was so stretched that we only saw him at our sessions for a max of 5 over a 7yr period. Elite coaching my arse, trying to teach parents with no GAA background to coach is a thankless task, if that’s another of their tasks. It does not suit some posters rhetoric to recognise that. It’s all about funding and splitting, probably to ensure their own county become competitive again. One poster even did similar in the rugby forum before landing in here, just posted drivel with no backup.

I remember that, it was back when you were claiming the GDO's were just for primary school children. I then had a look at the twitter account you were saying only posted facts. Unfortunately for you, the facts they posted went completely against your claims!

The twitter account pointed out that the GPO's role involved more than going into primary schools. It also involved going into secondary schools, it involved coaching other coaches, it involved things such as cúl camps and it also involved advanced level camps and other roles within the club.

Your 2007-2017 claim has also been proven to be nonsense. That's the thing with facts, when someone has them, they can easily expose the lies and you've been exposed really, really badly.

Iscreamkone · 28-01-2021 01:28PM

If we were starting the GAA from scratch today would we develop a competition where there is a such a huge inequality in resources and population size to select from? Of course not, it would be ridiculous.

blanch152 · 28-01-2021 02:24PM

ArielAtom wrote: »

Blanch, what you are trying to do is logic with a person who refuses. It’s a losing battle. I posted links to a GPO on Twitter that very much backed up what you are saying but one poster picked up on “and occasionally go into secondary schools”. I have 1st hand experience in it since the Dublin only program that contrary to our resident contrarian ran from 2007 to 2017, the GDO was so stretched that we only saw him at our sessions for a max of 5 over a 7yr period. Elite coaching my arse, trying to teach parents with no GAA background to coach is a thankless task, if that’s another of their tasks. It does not suit some posters rhetoric to recognise that. It’s all about funding and splitting, probably to ensure their own county become competitive again. One poster even did similar in the rugby forum before landing in here, just posted drivel with no backup.

I fully agree with you.

I really struggle with somebody trying to reduce the enjoyment of ordinary kids playing the game because of senior inter-county football.

Fundamentally, the GAA is about the club, about the juvenile players, about the sense of community. The work that the GDOs are doing is centred around all of that.

Does the work of the GDOs increase the chances of better players coming through? Yes, it contributes in a small way. Does the work of the GDOs guarantee a successful senior inter-county team? No, it doesn't because the effects of the work of the GDO are marginal.

Is the work of the GDOs the fundamental difference that saw Dublin win six-in-a-row? No, it absolutely isn't.

ShyMets · 28-01-2021 03:37PM

Iscreamkone wrote: »

If we were starting the GAA from scratch today would we develop a competition where there is a such a huge inequality in resources and population size to select from? Of course not, it would be ridiculous.

Fully agree. Using County boundaries makes zero sense. You would base it on population size. Basically you need x number of people in a geographically area to maintain a competitive team.

This would entail splits and amalgamations. But while some posters are happy to split Dublin, they seem reluctant to countenance amalgamations.

That does make me wonder

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 03:58PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Fully agree. Using County boundaries makes zero sense. You would base it on population size. Basically you need x number of people in a geographically area to maintain a competitive team.

This would entail splits and amalgamations. But while some posters are happy to split Dublin, they seem reluctant to countenance amalgamations.

That does make me wonder

The split has to happen because of the financial disparity, you know this, I know this, we all know this.

The facts and figures have all been presented here and the defenders of the millions of euros granted to Dublin have failed to counteract any of them. The only defence included busted myths, lies, deflection and disagreements with statements from members of the Dublin county board.

Some want to ignore 2 decades worth of funding disparity. They want to brush it under the carpet. Otherwise they'd have to admit to the reality of it which they find very uncomfortable. The rest of us don't have to ignore it though. We know why Dublin have won 100 titles post funding. We can't allow a county to continue to compete on a professional basis.

ShyMets · 28-01-2021 04:08PM

Enquiring wrote: »

The split has to happen because of the financial disparity, you know this, I know this, we all know this.

The facts and figures have all been presented here and the defenders of the millions of euros granted to Dublin have failed to counteract any of them. The only defence included busted myths, lies, deflection and disagreements with statements from members of the Dublin county board.

Some want to ignore 2 decades worth of funding disparity. They want to brush it under the carpet. Otherwise they'd have to admit to the reality of it which they find very uncomfortable. The rest of us don't have to ignore it though. We know why Dublin have won 100 titles post funding. We can't allow a county to continue to compete on a professional basis.

Thank you for responding and ignoring the points I was making.

I want you to know that you're posts are important to me. Please keep posting

Lost Ormond · 28-01-2021 04:10PM

Iscreamkone wrote: »

If we were starting the GAA from scratch today would we develop a competition where there is a such a huge inequality in resources and population size to select from? Of course not, it would be ridiculous.

Maybe we wouldnt but there's huge inequalities in resources and population size in vast majority of sports and competitions between teams. GAA is no different.

blanch152 wrote: »

I fully agree with you.

I really struggle with somebody trying to reduce the enjoyment of ordinary kids playing the game because of senior inter-county football.

Fundamentally, the GAA is about the club, about the juvenile players, about the sense of community. The work that the GDOs are doing is centred around all of that.

Does the work of the GDOs increase the chances of better players coming through? Yes, it contributes in a small way. Does the work of the GDOs guarantee a successful senior inter-county team? No, it doesn't because the effects of the work of the GDO are marginal.

Is the work of the GDOs the fundamental difference that saw Dublin win six-in-a-row? No, it absolutely isn't.

It doesnt make sense but its to be expected. Development officers are needed in more places. That doesnt mean Dublin should be criticised heavily for having them in place. More assistance to some other counties especially on the dublin commuter belt has to be done asap

Enquiring wrote: »

The split has to happen because of the financial disparity, you know this, I know this, we all know this.

The facts and figures have all been presented here and the defenders of the millions of euros granted to Dublin have failed to counteract any of them. The only defence included busted myths, lies, deflection and disagreements with statements from members of the Dublin county board.

Some want to ignore 2 decades worth of funding disparity. They want to brush it under the carpet. Otherwise they'd have to admit to the reality of it which they find very uncomfortable. The rest of us don't have to ignore it though. We know why Dublin have won 100 titles post funding. We can't allow a county to continue to compete on a professional basis.

We dont because finances alone do not make the best teams. Its all about best practices and money isnt necessarily needed for that to occur.

SheepsClothing · 28-01-2021 04:16PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Not a single link to the quotations taken out of context, and the clear contradictions in everything you are posting is plain and obvious.

Everything in your post is about the coaching of kids, the improvement of the volunteer coaches that leads to the improvement in enjoyment for kids who can handle the basic skill of kicking a ball.

What your quotes are showing is that GDOs are working to ensure that coaching a 12-year old to hand-pass the ball and kick out of hands rather than along the ground so that they can get more enjoyment out of the game. That is exactly what I am saying.

You are extrapolating that to mean that somehow the Dublin senior football team is better as a result. At the best of times, that is a stretch.

It is unbelievable that you are so dead against ordinary kids being coached properly to kick and hand-pass the ball so that they can enjoy the game.

So what you are saying is, driving massive number of kids and their parents into playing and volunteering in Dublin GAA has little to no benefit to the senior county team?

That's a wild claim.

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 04:51PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Thank you for responding and ignoring the points I was making.

I want you to know that you're posts are important to me. Please keep posting

I get the frustration, I really do. There is no justification for the funding disparity and we all know what it has led to. This is not an easy pill to swallow. It would be for a supporter of any county. It happened though, the Dublin county board accepted the money and they knew the day would come where the split had to happen.

I've said it before but the split is being looked at from a negative point of view. This needs to change. It's a positive development for everyone, especially those in Dublin.

SheepsClothing · 28-01-2021 04:51PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Fully agree. Using County boundaries makes zero sense. You would base it on population size. Basically you need x number of people in a geographically area to maintain a competitive team.

This would entail splits and amalgamations. But while some posters are happy to split Dublin, they seem reluctant to countenance amalgamations.

That does make me wonder

It shouldn't be that complicated. Splits are by their nature, less alienating than amalgamations. Somebody who was born and raised in the Fingal County Council area has been affiliated and thought of themselves as part of that area for much of/all of their life.

Somebody born and raised in Monaghan, has never affiliated themselves with being from Cavan, in fact they consider Cavan their rival. If suddenly, the Mavan senior football team is formed, that Monaghan supporter is going to have much harder time supporting the Mavan team, than the former Dublin supporter will have supporting Fingal.

There's also the fact that splitting Dublin is the path of least resistance to bringing about some semblance of competition. Splitting Dublin and disfranchising one counties support(I personally think it would drive support) for the benefit of the other 31, is easier than disenfranchising the other 31 counties in order to suit the one runaway train county.

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 04:57PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

We dont because finances alone do not make the best teams. Its all about best practices and money isnt necessarily needed for that to occur.

We know it wasn't just the money, the detailed plan drawn up first followed by the money was key. The plan outlined key target areas, it outlined key appointments that needed to be made to oversee everything, obviously it made it clear the number of coaches needed to be increased hugely and the finance needed to support all of these new employees. It was a very detailed plan and a very good plan. It wouldn't have worked without the backing of huge finance from taxpayers and the GAA though.

Lost Ormond · 28-01-2021 05:00PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

It shouldn't be that complicated. Splits are by their nature, less alienating than amalgamations. Somebody who was born and raised in the Fingal County Council area has been affiliated and thought of themselves as part of that area for much of/all of their life.

Somebody born and raised in Monaghan, has never affiliated themselves with being from Cavan, in fact they consider Cavan their rival. If suddenly, the Mavan senior football team is formed, that Monaghan supporter is going to have much harder time supporting the Mavan team, than the former Dublin supporter will have supporting Fingal.

There's also the fact that splitting Dublin is the path of least resistance to bringing about some semblance of competition. Splitting Dublin and disfranchising one counties support(I personally think it would drive support) for the benefit of the other 31, is easier than disenfranchising the other 31 counties in order to suit the one runaway train county.

But when would most in Fingal have ever really supported teams representing a Fingal team? When would they have supported and backed Fingal.
Splitting Dublin will do little to help the vast majority of counties and their fans and chances of success.
Someone born in North Tipp is in North Munster but that doesnt at all mean they will have an affiliation towards a North Munster team.

Iscreamkone · 28-01-2021 05:00PM

Let's give €100 million to Leitrim and see how they get on with it.
It's all about the population

ShyMets · 28-01-2021 05:01PM

Enquiring wrote: »

I get the frustration, I really do. There is no justification for the funding disparity and we all know what it has led to. This is not an easy pill to swallow. It would be for a supporter of any county. It happened though, the Dublin county board accepted the money and they knew the day would come where the split had to happen.

I've said it before but the sllit is being looked at from a negative point of view. This needs to change. It's a positive development for everyone, especially those in Dublin.

Right. So you've once again ignored the point I was making. Which is County boundaries make no sense. The current structure needs to be torn up. If we want a competitive game a Senior level base it on population size. Which would entail splits and amalgamations.

Simply splitting Dublin does very little for the majority of teams. And to quote your good self " you know this. I know this. We all know this".

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 05:02PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

So what you are saying is, driving massive number of kids and their parents into playing and volunteering in Dublin GAA has little to no benefit to the senior county team?

That's a wild claim.

The claims they make are supported by statements supplied by...............themselves! It goes against testimony from senior Dublin county board officials.

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 05:08PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

But when would most in Fingal have ever really supported teams representing a Fingal team? When would they have supported and backed Fingal.
Splitting Dublin will do little to help the vast majority of counties and their fans and chances of success.
Someone born in North Tipp is in North Munster but that doesnt at all mean they will have an affiliation towards a North Munster team.

It may be a little tricky for the first year but that will soon pass. When parents see their kids get an opportunity to represent their area at inter county level, the support will be instant. More clubs will have representatives at inter county level. It will really boost GAA in areas neglected by Dublin GAA. Local rivalries will bloom. Big crowds will attend these games. Plus, the county boundaries are already drawn. The 4 counties are ready to go!

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 05:14PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Right. So you've once again ignored the point I was making. Which is County boundaries make no sense. The current structure needs to be torn up. If we want a competitive game a Senior level base it on population size. Which would entail splits and amalgamations.

Simply splitting Dublin does very little for the majority of teams. And to quote your good self " you know this. I know this. We all know this".

You're just talking about football here. 22 counties have won provincial championships since the 90's. Directly prior to the Dublin funding taking effect, 5 other counties won Leinster championships. Last year we saw Cavan and Tipperary win provincial titles. Monaghan with a very small population have been competing at the top level. There is nothing wrong with senior football apart from one county receiving special treatment and being artificially placed at the top of the tree.

Yes, other counties need funding. That has to be done but first Dublin must be split.

Lost Ormond · 28-01-2021 05:23PM

ShyMets wrote: »

Right. So you've once again ignored the point I was making. Which is County boundaries make no sense. The current structure needs to be torn up. If we want a competitive game a Senior level base it on population size. Which would entail splits and amalgamations.

Simply splitting Dublin does very little for the majority of teams. And to quote your good self " you know this. I know this. We all know this".

County Boundaries may perfect sense and tie in with how the GAA is structured at club level.
In what sport are all teams split solely based on their population size?

Enquiring wrote: »

It may be a little tricky for the first year but that will soon pass. When parents see their kids get an opportunity to represent their area at inter county level, the support will be instant. More clubs will have representatives at inter county level. It will really boost GAA in areas neglected by Dublin GAA. Local rivalries will bloom. Big crowds will attend these games. Plus, the county boundaries are already drawn. The 4 counties are ready to go!

It would soon pass based on what exactly?
Look at welsh rugby and the problems theyve had with identity. Splitting teams or combining teams with extensive histories is fraught with difficulties and majority do not work successfully.

SheepsClothing · 28-01-2021 05:25PM

Iscreamkone wrote: »

Let's give €100 million to Leitrim and see how they get on with it.
It's all about the population

It's down to a population being exploited to it's maximum, due to an abundance of funding. Leitrim wouldn't win an all Ireland if they were funded as well as Dublin, but they would be the best Leitrim they could possibly be.

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 05:29PM

Iscreamkone wrote: »

Let's give €100 million to Leitrim and see how they get on with it.
It's all about the population

Leitrim won a provincial title in 1994. Are you saying minnows can't become competitive?

SheepsClothing · 28-01-2021 05:29PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

County Boundaries may perfect sense and tie in with how the GAA is structured at club level.
In what sport are all teams split solely based on their population size?

It would soon pass based on what exactly?
Look at welsh rugby and the problems theyve had with identity. Splitting teams or combining teams with extensive histories is fraught with difficulties and majority do not work successfully.

The difference with Welsh rugby is, they didn't split or amalgamate, in so much as they just drew boundaries out of thin air. There are 4 existing boundaries in Dublin, with roughly similar populations. You'd even still have "The Dubs", in the form of the Dublin City team who could hold onto the sky blue jerseys.

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 05:35PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

County Boundaries may perfect sense and tie in with how the GAA is structured at club level.
In what sport are all teams split solely based on their population size?

It would soon pass based on what exactly?
Look at welsh rugby and the problems theyve had with identity. Splitting teams or combining teams with extensive histories is fraught with difficulties and majority do not work successfully.

Based on what I just said. Local communities seeing more kids getting to play inter county football and that's the big thing, they will be representing their local area. There will be major rivalries between the 4 counties and with neighbouring counties. This attracts crowds. It will work.

Lost Ormond · 28-01-2021 05:38PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

The difference with Welsh rugby is, they didn't split or amalgamate, in so much as they just drew boundaries out of thin air. There are 4 existing boundaries in Dublin, with roughly similar populations. You'd even still have "The Dubs", in the form of the Dublin City team who could hold onto the sky blue jerseys.

They did amalgamate though. Ospreys is an amalgamation of Neath and Swansea.
These boundaries exist but how much do people really pay attention to them/have a draw towards Fingal over South Dublin, Dublin city over Dun Laoghaire?
But jerseys alone. Why would or should the Dublin city team keep the Sky Blue jerseys over the other sides?
These sides all playing in Croke Park?
If this is to happen in the league as well? How do you address that?
Its not workable.
Can you name any sports that split teams like youre suggesting and it turned out into a success?

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 05:40PM

SheepsClothing wrote: »

The difference with Welsh rugby is, they didn't split or amalgamate, in so much as they just drew boundaries out of thin air. There are 4 existing boundaries in Dublin, with roughly similar populations. You'd even still have "The Dubs", in the form of the Dublin City team who could hold onto the sky blue jerseys.

It's already governed as 4 counties. It makes sense. People in Fingal are different to people in Dún Laoighaire/Rathdown. People from South Dublin are different to people in Dublin city.

The split is already there. Having 4 county boards trying to promote Gaelic games in their own area instead of one county board for 4 counties will be hugely beneficial. It will grow Gaelic games and we'll have a more open, vibrant championship. It's a win/win.

Enquiring · 28-01-2021 05:43PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

They did amalgamate though. Ospreys is an amalgamation of Neath and Swansea.
These boundaries exist but how much do people really pay attention to them/have a draw towards Fingal over South Dublin, Dublin city over Dun Laoghaire?
But jerseys alone. Why would or should the Dublin city team keep the Sky Blue jerseys over the other sides?
These sides all playing in Croke Park?
If this is to happen in the league as well? How do you address that?
Its not workable.
Can you name any sports that split teams like youre suggesting and it turned out into a success?

In fairness, can you name any sport where the governing body funded one team above all others by the tune of millions? Drew up a detailed plan for them, funded it and allowed no one else access to the program.

SheepsClothing · 28-01-2021 06:18PM

Lost Ormond wrote: »

They did amalgamate though. Ospreys is an amalgamation of Neath and Swansea.
These boundaries exist but how much do people really pay attention to them/have a draw towards Fingal over South Dublin, Dublin city over Dun Laoghaire?
But jerseys alone. Why would or should the Dublin city team keep the Sky Blue jerseys over the other sides?
These sides all playing in Croke Park?
If this is to happen in the league as well? How do you address that?
Its not workable.
Can you name any sports that split teams like youre suggesting and it turned out into a success?

Well splits are difficult to find obvious examples of, but if you look at American sports, they have no problem moving teams here there and everywhere to great success.

As for who plays where and the logistics of the operation, I honestly don't think this a big issue. We can make a workable schedule with home and away fixtures an alternate days in the short term. Long term, I would anticipate a second stadium being built somewhere on the South Side to act as a home ground for the two teams on that side of the city.

ooter · 28-01-2021 07:32PM

Big crowds attending DCC/fingal/DLR/SDCC games is dreamland stuff, if all 4 of those played in the leinster championship the combined game attendance would be less than the average attendance at a dublin leinster championship game.

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