Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Bush f**ked up the US economy, Obama fixed it (despite Republican opposition to GM etc bailouts) and Trump got the f**king credit :rolleyes:

I'd love to know what, apart from a massive unfunded tax cut i.e. debt, Trump did that was of actual real economic benefit?

Getting into trade wars isn't good for the economy that's for sure.

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Bush f**ked up the US economy, Obama fixed it (despite Republican opposition to GM etc bailouts) and Trump got the f**king credit :rolleyes:

I'd love to know what, apart from a massive unfunded tax cut i.e. debt, Trump did that was of actual real economic benefit?

Getting into trade wars isn't good for the economy that's for sure.

And before that Bill Clinton was one of the few Presidents to return a budget surplus but we are led to believe the Democrats do nothing but spend other peoples money.

12gauge dave wrote: »

What's with all the name calling of the opposition?
74 million people voted for trump are they all morons?
You have your beliefs the opposition has theirs.
They aren't any less or more of a human being than you are.
You are equal to them as much as your ego would disagree.

From the supporters who coined 'fcuk your feelings', 'liberal tears', and other great hits are all suddenly as weak and thin skinned as their orange daddy

duploelabs wrote: »

But trump said trade wars are easy to win, just try telling that to the soy farmers on subsidies as the reciprocal tarrifs goosed their export market to China

I'm remined of the "easiest negotiation ever" "we hold all the cards" guff coming from the east of us!

America will win manufacturing trade wars with china as soon as a large proportion of the US population are willing to live and work in third world conditions for third world pay.

12gauge dave wrote: »

Joe Biden has asked for unity going forward let's give it a shot eh?

Right, but how do you get unity when one side wants to deal in facts and figures and the other side just knows!

Take Climate change for example. IS there really a unity point? What, we all agree that the climate is changing but all agree not to do anything about it?

One of the key reasons that Germany was able to move on from WWII, and a key reason they didn't from WWI, and its similar to South Africa, is that there was an acceptance of the errors that had happened, remorse and a willingness not to let it happen again.

So has Cruz come out to accept he was wrong? Have the 147 GOP congress members that voted to suspend the democratic vote accepted they were wrong?

Has the GOP, the voters accepted the damage they have done?

No, none of that has happened. The exact same games will continue to be played by McConnell.

Watch what happens at the impeachment. Even the GOP are really about unity, then there is no excuse not to impeach. If not for the riot itself, then the phone call to Georgia is enough in its own right.

They should also admit that they pulled a fast one about SCOTUS at Obama's last year and that going forward both parties need to amend the process.

Do you really think any of that will happen?

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I see #BidenErasedWomen is trending on Twitter as I said this morning this isn't going to end well for Biden

https://twitter.com/Nemaipa/status/1352266814504509443?s=19

So how is giving a trans woman equality a bad thing? I don't see any cis women being erased?

joseywhales wrote: »

Listen, we don't need to be like republicans, the ups and downs of the S&P are not an indicator of the president's economic performance, real sustainable economic planning takes years to implement(perhaps multiple administrations) and may not be felt until years after an administration. Real economic planning includes things like funding public schools, which wont affect the economy for 10 or more years.....but is very much required.

You'd presume the Biden administration will be a lot better than Trump's on education at a bare minimum. His education secretary was terrible by all accounts.

On the economics thing though it's so hard to judge, like people are talking about Bill Clinton's great economic performance, I've a lot of time for Bill Clinton he seemed to be an actual centerist in terms of policies but arguably he laid the seeds of the great economic crash.

Overheal wrote:

And the Dow is at an all time high whilst Trump oversaw the worst jobs performance of any president in history. Huh.

Just out if interest, and I've no interest in defending Trump, but we're all these worst performances in the stock market and unemployment during covid?

duploelabs wrote:

Between this and your commentary of lady gagas appearance at the inauguration yesterday, you're really showing us your brevity of class and culture

Just on the pop stars, I've no interest in them.myself but years ago I was at a concert and Bono started telling us about his beliefs on certain things. I didn't go to the concert for political opinion and it wasn't advertised prior to the event either. I wish they'd all keep their political affiliations to themselves. I certainly don't respect their opinions on serious matters.

Melanchthon wrote: »

You'd presume the Biden administration will be a lot better than Trump's on education at a bare minimum. His education secretary was terrible by all accounts.

On the economics thing though it's so hard to judge, like people are talking about Bill Clinton's great economic performance, I've a lot of time for Bill Clinton he seemed to be an actual centerist in terms of policies but arguably he laid the seeds of the great economic crash.

Biden needs to do something with the demographic who ate up Trump's message on bringing good blue collar jobs back to the States, because you're only fomenting another wave of populist anger to let those towns literally rust. It may be that with global supply chains and the system of capitalism we currently employ that outsourcing will always make more sense, but that means changing the system of capitalism. No longer should people be allowed to become as wealthy as Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk. Men who are so rich they cannot figure out what to do with all their money. I believe that someone should certainly be allowed to work hard and become very wealthy off of that and have a very comfortable life. I just don't think they should be allowed to have all of the money, because at that point they're private entities, answerable to no-one, wielding tremendous power to change society to their own liking that may be at odds at with the public interest.

In short, you could perhaps bring back some good blue collar jobs if you remove the culture of profit at all costs. The people at the top would still have a lot of money and the people at the bottom would have a little more, and that would be a more stable basis to move on with as a society.

Must be something about girls, young women that trigger some people? Greta, Alexandria and now Amanda.

Muahahaha wrote: »

Without doubt thats what his idoitic tweet about Parisians was all about today, it was completely aimed at Trumps base. Its easy to forget that Cruz has a degree from Harvard Law School and a Masters from Princeton. So unless he bribed his way in he is a smart enough guy. His whole grift now though is not to act like it in order to appeal to the poorly educated voters that loved Trump so much.

When God was giving him brains, he held back on a personality.