Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Beasty

The current Trump v Biden thread is approaching 10k posts. A dedicated thread may be required if there is significant trouble surrounding the inauguration itself.

Going forward we already have a

new thread on Trump

. This thread is to discuss Biden, not Trump. It's to cover his first 100 days and beyond.

Anyone making references such as "Sleepy Joe" and the like will be threadbanned in addition to possible further sanction. There is no need for any of that sort of stuff - this is to discuss his presidency. His policies. His interactions with Congress, the Senate, State Governors, other Governments. It's not to discuss the likes of Hunter Biden. Keep this thread clean from all that other crap.

I have updated the OP of this thread with a list of threadbanned users, I would advise posters to check on this before posting in the thread again or a forum sanction will be imposed for breaching same.

If you want to discuss your threadban feel free to PM the banning mod (or myself if you can't remember who that is and I'll point you in the right direction).

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WrenBoy

He's got a big, big job ahead of him anyway. I wish him luck.

BattleCorp

I don't think he'll go the full 4 year term.

ancapailldorcha

I'm cautiously optimistic. If he can cancel US secession from the WHO, re-enter the Paris climate accords and the deal with Iran and maybe try and heal the country I think he'll have done alright. Not the ideal president but the US system never offers that choice by its nature.

Donald Trump

I reckon he'll have the smallest inauguration crowd in history.

Will watch his 100 day corona results. At least there seems to be some intention there

We didn't see the traditional post election bump in the dollar

Baggly

Donald Trump wrote: »

I reckon he'll have the smallest inauguration crowd in history.

Will watch his 100 day corona results. At least there seems to be some intention there

We didn't see the traditional post election bump in the dollar

Muahahaha

Donald Trump wrote: »

Will watch his 100 day corona results. At least there seems to be some intention there

Definitely intention and ambition there- he has promised to vaccinate 100 million American in his first 100 days. Its a tall ask but Fauci said it is do-able. If they can get to 100 milliion vaccinated by the end April and keep going at that pace then the economy will come roaring back in the summer.

osarusan

Trump has made it easy for him to score some quick points when he takes office, but I don't know what he will achieve in the longer term. He will be fairly uninspiring and bland for the most part I expect.

Dealing with Covid-19, within the US context of 'my freedoms', will be a real challenge for him. If he can actually complete the vaccination plan he has set out it will be a real achievement.

CtevenSrowder

Hopefully things settle down over the next 4 years. I won't hold my breath!

Beasty

CtevenSrowder wrote: »

Hopefully things settle down over the next 4 years. I won't hold my breath!

The pandemic is going to be grabbing most of the headlines throughout this year,. That in itself may be a little dangerous if some rogue state, possibly prompted by the likes of Russia, decides to try and test him. He could end up fighting a number of fires.

FreudianSlippers

Let me preface this by saying I support Biden, I did not vote for him in the primaries, but I did in the general election. I would be surprised, given his age, if he serves the full 4 years or at best if he does, I'm not sure he will run for re-election. I think this is a "rebuilding" presidency for the DNC and is really pushing many of the newer faces to the front.

suicide_circus

He'll have a strong start.

The economy is going to surge shortly once the vaccine is rolled out so that will look like a win.

There is a big caravan of migrants from Guatemala on it's way to the southern border which i presume will be welcomed in with open arms.

Professor Moriarty

suicide_circus wrote: »

He'll have a strong start.

The economy is going to surge shortly once the vaccine is rolled out so that will look like a win.

There is a big caravan of migrants from Guatemala on it's way to the southern border which i presume will be welcomed in with open arms.

It has been blocked and pushed back by Guatemalan security forces. Also, current immigration policies won't be changing for months.

weisses

suicide_circus wrote: »

He'll have a strong start.

The economy is going to surge shortly once the vaccine is rolled out so that will look like a win.

There is a big caravan of migrants from Guatemala on it's way to the southern border which i presume will be welcomed in with open arms.

No worries ..There is a beautiful wall build that will stop them.

Donald Trump

Beasty wrote: »

The pandemic is going to be grabbing most of the headlines throughout this year,. That in itself may be a little dangerous if some rogue state, possibly prompted by the likes of Russia, decides to try and test him. He could end up fighting a number of fires.

I reckon that the corona means that even a "rogue" state would not be willing to kick off anything serious for a bit.

For Forks Sake

suicide_circus wrote: »

the vaccine is rolled out so that will look like a win.

There is a big caravan of migrants from Guatemala on it's way to the southern border which i presume will be welcomed in with open arms.

They've been on the way since the 2018 Midterms :rolleyes: at their current rate of progress it'll be some time in 2245 before they arrive.

Tippex

It will be good for everyone that there will be a focus on the immediate threats i.e. Covid.
There are quite a few low hanging fruits for him to pick off.
I think if he can maintain communication and a level of transparency that has not been there for the last 4 years he will be making a positive start.

Sleeper12

The country hasn't been this fractured since the civil War. Trump has brainwashed a large portion of the population into believing fairytales rather than factual news. Many of these no longer want to believe the truth.

He has a tough job ahead of him. Getting off to a good start by reversing some of the more damaging decisions trump made in the first day or so. My fear is more MAGA terrorism over the next few months

Best of luck to Biden who seems like a thoroughly decent human despite all the mud being thrown at him.

If he even gets half way to the reconciliation and healing that needs to be done arising from the damage of the past 12 years, that will be something.

Carfacemandog

suicide_circus wrote: »

He'll have a strong start.

The economy is going to surge shortly once the vaccine is rolled out so that will look like a win.

There is a big caravan of migrants from Guatemala on it's way to the southern border which i presume will be welcomed in with open arms.

Is this the same caravan that has been en route since late summer 2018 that has yet to arrive, or a different one?

nolivesmatter

Hopefully he can bring back some sense of unity and calm, but I think the emphasis he placed on race regarding covid relief will already have the opposite effect.

keano_afc

Doesnt really matter what he does, he wont be held to anything like the same accountability his predecessor was.

Will score plenty of points with the loons though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-rachel-levine-health-secretary-460278

Overheal

nolivesmatter wrote: »

Hopefully he can bring back some sense of unity and calm, but I think the emphasis he placed on race regarding covid relief will already have the opposite effect.

What by calling it the Kung flu?

nolivesmatter

Overheal wrote: »

What by calling it the Kung flu?

lol I had to look that up. I thought we weren't going to talk about him in here.

Overheal

nolivesmatter wrote: »

lol I had to look that up. I thought we weren't going to talk about him in here.

Well I’m asking you how did Biden make it about race and why do you think he deserves that albatross?

Professor Moriarty

keano_afc wrote: »

Doesnt really matter what he does, he wont be held to anything like the same accountability his predecessor was.

Will score plenty of points with the loons though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-rachel-levine-health-secretary-460278

What's your point?

Samsonsmasher

suicide_circus wrote: »

He'll have a strong start.

The economy is going to surge shortly once the vaccine is rolled out so that will look like a win.

There is a big caravan of migrants from Guatemala on it's way to the southern border which i presume will be welcomed in with open arms.

The economy will surge if he abandons lockdowns and just opens the country up.

Allowing migrants in who haven't been vaccinated or quarantined? Doesn't that go against the whole logic of lockdowns and covid policies?

WrenBoy

I reckon we'll be hearing a lot of "so? look at what Trump did!" no matter what Biden does, hopefully Im wrong though and he's judged on his own actions without getting cover for everything by people who hated the last president.

ancapailldorcha

keano_afc wrote: »

Doesnt really matter what he does, he wont be held to anything like the same accountability his predecessor was.

Will score plenty of points with the loons though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-rachel-levine-health-secretary-460278

His predecessor hasn't been held accountable at all, even for attempting to incite an insurrection. His devoted cult following are not remotely diminished. He's been impeached twice without being removed from office.

mcmoustache

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

What's your point?

As far as I can tell, it's "Trump was treated unfairly. Biden is PC gone mad."

ohnonotgmail

Samsonsmasher wrote: »

The economy will surge if he abandons lockdowns and just opens the country up.

Allowing migrants in who haven't been vaccinated or quarantined? Doesn't that go against the whole logic of lockdowns and covid policies?

when did he say he would be allowing them in?

Cody montana

I can see this being an uneventful presidency.

nolivesmatter

Overheal wrote: »

Well I’m asking you how did Biden make it about race and why do you think he deserves that albatross?

There's no denying that he made it about race:

"Our priority will be Black, Latino, Asian, and Native American owned small businesses, women-owned businesses, and finally having equal access to resources needed to reopen and rebuild."

You may or may not agree with what he said but that's a separate point.

ohnonotgmail

Cody montana wrote: »

I can see this being an uneventful presidency.

I certainly hope so.

Overheal

nolivesmatter wrote: »

There's no denying that he made it about race:

"Our priority will be Black, Latino, Asian, and Native American owned small businesses, women-owned businesses, and finally having equal access to resources needed to reopen and rebuild."

You may or may not agree with what he said but that's a separate point.

What’s the context? I’m not a dentist and this is like pulling teeth.

Professor Moriarty

mcmoustache wrote: »

As far as I can tell, it's "Trump was treated unfairly. Biden is PC gone mad."

I thought that. Just another headline googled and dumped in to support an unsupportable point. The reality is that the Pennsylvannian senate voted for Levine unanimously in 2015. Which meant all Republicans voted for her. Bet the poster didn't know that nor would they understand it. It speaks volumes when that post is the best that anti-Bidenists can come up with.

ohnonotgmail

keano_afc wrote: »

Doesnt really matter what he does, he wont be held to anything like the same accountability his predecessor was.

Will score plenty of points with the loons though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-rachel-levine-health-secretary-460278

imagine nominating somebody qualified for a job in his administration. It will certainly make a change from appointing yes-men lackeys.

mcmoustache

WrenBoy wrote: »

I reckon we'll be hearing a lot of "so? look at what Trump did!" no matter what Biden does, hopefully Im wrong though and he's judged on his own actions without getting cover for everything by people who hated the last president.

That will likely be the response to those who excused, minimised and denied stuff for Trump. If there's any pearl-clutching about an unqualified lackey being appointed to a position or "acting" cabinet members, then yes, Trump supporters will rightly be called on their hypocrisy. That's just the normal social cost of accepting and defending everything that Trump did - you lose any credibility when criticising someone else for the same activity.

nolivesmatter

Overheal wrote: »

What’s the context? I’m not a dentist and this is like pulling teeth.

I assume if you're in this thread you're following what's going on. Googling the quote I provided or the topic in general would take as much effort as being a smart ass.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/biden-faces-backlash-over-vow-to-prioritize-minority-owned-businesses

CrazyFather1

As long as he doesn't push for US companies to move out of Ireland why do people care?

mcmoustache

CrazyFather1 wrote: »

As long as he doesn't push for US companies to move out of Ireland why do people care?

Sorry, but hotmail already has that job.

Overheal

nolivesmatter wrote: »

I assume if you're in this thread you're following what's going on. Googling the quote I provided or the topic in general would take as much effort as being a smart ass.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/biden-faces-backlash-over-vow-to-prioritize-minority-owned-businesses

Or just not being cryptic would be helpful.

ancapailldorcha

nolivesmatter wrote: »

There's no denying that he made it about race:

"Our priority will be Black, Latino, Asian, and Native American owned small businesses, women-owned businesses, and finally having equal access to resources needed to reopen and rebuild."

You may or may not agree with what he said but that's a separate point.

He wants them to have equal access. What's the problem here?

Is this how discourse is going to be going forward? Trump supporters gish galloping and pretending to care about issues they were curiously and predictably silent about pre-2021?

Carfacemandog

keano_afc wrote: »

Doesnt really matter what he does, he wont be held to anything like the same accountability his predecessor was.

Will score plenty of points with the loons though.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/19/biden-rachel-levine-health-secretary-460278

Hate to break it to you, but Trump got free passes on many, many issues where Obama was roundly criticised by both sides, drone strikes being one such example.

I however look forward to hearing republicans and Trump supporters start comaining about issues such as the deficit, corruption, and international relations, in precisely 27 hours and 4 minutes time.

FreudianSlippers

Overheal wrote: »

What’s the context? I’m not a dentist and this is like pulling teeth.

Seems to be a selective quote from the below doing the rounds on alt-right sites.

https://twitter.com/Transition46/status/1348403213200990209?s=20

"Our focus will be on small businesses on Main Street, that aren't wealthy and well-connected, that are facing real economic hardships through no fault of their own."

So, he's not saying (as implied) that they will be prioritised over any other businesses, just that there will be equality. God forbid!

ohnonotgmail

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Seems to be a selective quote from the below doing the rounds on alt-right sites.

https://twitter.com/Transition46/status/1348403213200990209?s=20

"Our focus will be on small businesses on Main Street, that aren't wealthy and well-connected, that are facing real economic hardships through no fault of their own."

So, he's not saying (as implied) that they will be prioritised over any other businesses, just that there will be equality. God forbid!

that sounds like communism to me

FreudianSlippers

nolivesmatter wrote: »

I assume if you're in this thread you're following what's going on. Googling the quote I provided or the topic in general would take as much effort as being a smart ass.

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/biden-faces-backlash-over-vow-to-prioritize-minority-owned-businesses

Rather than regurgitating Sinclair right-wing and misleading articles, you should use Google yourself and actually, idk, watch the source video?

nolivesmatter

Overheal wrote: »

Or just not being cryptic would be helpful.

I wasn't cryptic, you just don't like what I said.

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

He wants them to have equal access. What's the problem here?

Is this how discourse is going to be going forward? Trump supporters gish galloping and pretending to care about issues they were curiously and predictably silent about pre-2021?

As I said, you may agree with him. But I think racializing covid relief is unnecessary.

And this is a Biden thread. You need to accept that he's going to get some criticism, and not everyone who criticizes him will be a Trump supporter.

ancapailldorcha

nolivesmatter wrote: »

As I said, you may agree with him. But I think racializing covid relief is unnecessary.

And this is a Biden thread. You need to accept that he's going to get some criticism, and not everyone who criticizes him will be a Trump supporter.

True but my skepticism is piqued when I see terms like "racialized" accompanying out of context quotes.

ohnonotgmail

nolivesmatter wrote: »

I wasn't cryptic, you just don't like what I said.



As I said, you may agree with him. But I think racializing covid relief is unnecessary.

And this is a Biden thread. You need to accept that he's going to get some criticism, and not everyone who criticizes him will be a Trump supporter.

you are criticising him because he wants everybody to have equal access to assistance. think what that says about you.

Overheal

FreudianSlippers wrote: »

Seems to be a selective quote from the below doing the rounds on alt-right sites.

https://twitter.com/Transition46/status/1348403213200990209?s=20

"Our focus will be on small businesses on Main Street, that aren't wealthy and well-connected, that are facing real economic hardships through no fault of their own."

So, he's not saying (as implied) that they will be prioritised over any other businesses, just that there will be equality. God forbid!

Was wondering why fox didn’t stomach a piece about it thanks.

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Here’s some class folks will be forgiven for having forgot existed in Washington:

https://twitter.com/mediaite/status/1351527796191932416?s=21