Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

Wombatman · 21-01-2021 08:37PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Nah just an awful awful comparison

Schools and childrens education was deemed a societal priority which was why so much effort was made getting children back to school and also why schools remained open during level 5

Pubs were not a societal priority

Pubs in Dublin did not open since March, the majority of wet pubs only got a month since March and at no stage were any pubs/restaurants open when in level 5

Look you completely missed the point about the pubs. The statement quoted was just vague waffle. You could plug pubs, non essential retail, building sites into the meaningless statement and it would be true because of it vagueness.

I have no problem with the societal priority angle, but let's call it out as the reason we are opening schools early and not because "schools are safe".

Str8outtaWuhan · 21-01-2021 08:37PM

What are peoples opinions on schools taking days off for inservice etc?

3 local schools off next friday, just think its slightly cheeky.

am_zarathustra · 21-01-2021 08:42PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

What are peoples opinions on schools taking days off for inservice etc?

3 local schools off next friday, just think its slightly cheeky.

Talk to he department not the schools, I can't imagine anyone in the schools wants to sit through that nonsense volunteerily!

lulublue22 · 21-01-2021 08:42PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

What are peoples opinions on schools taking days off for inservice etc?

3 local schools off next friday, just think its slightly cheeky.

Inservice still needs to go ahead - staff will be working all day just not supporting kids.

ETA - Friday is a good day for children as a weeks work done rather than breaking the week and trying to get children started again.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 21-01-2021 08:43PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

What are peoples opinions on schools taking days off for inservice etc?

3 local schools off next friday, just think its slightly cheeky.

Teachers wud rather teach than listen to the drivel of inservice. Please complain to someone who might change it

Str8outtaWuhan · 21-01-2021 08:45PM

lulublue22 wrote: »

Inservice still needs to go ahead - staff will be working all day just not supporting kids.

ETA - Friday is a good day for children as a weeks work done rather than breaking the week and trying to get children started again.

I thought all the PDST staff were redeployed to help with the war effort?

Smacruairi · 21-01-2021 08:45PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

What are peoples opinions on schools taking days off for inservice etc?

3 local schools off next friday, just think its slightly cheeky.

Please please please get us out of it. Its actually awful. We talk about the power of post it notes.

lulublue22 · 21-01-2021 08:45PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

Teachers wud rather teach than listen to the drivel of inservice. Please complain to someone who might change it

agh now who doesn’t love all the new buzz words and finding inventive ways to give them back or the sticky notes !

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 21-01-2021 08:46PM

lulublue22 wrote: »

agh now who doesn’t love all the new buzz words and finding inventive ways to give them back or the sticky notes !

A part of me dies when I see an A3 page, post-its and highlighters

Must print a t-shirt "I think all the other tables covered what we discussed"

lulublue22 · 21-01-2021 08:47PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

I thought all the PDST staff were redeployed to help with the war effort?

What and give up those oh so important / critical inservice days filled with post its no way !

Random sample · 21-01-2021 08:47PM

Smacruairi wrote: »

Please please please get us out of it. Its actually awful. We talk about the power of post it notes.

What subject are you? We have moved on to jam board. It was actually described to us as an online version of post it notes.

Stateofyou · 21-01-2021 08:48PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Nah just an awful awful comparison

Schools and childrens education was deemed a societal priority which was why so much effort was made getting children back to school and also why schools remained open during level 5

Pubs were not a societal priority

Pubs in Dublin did not open since March, the majority of wet pubs only got a month since March and at no stage were any pubs/restaurants open when in level 5

Now hang on - it was an interesting play on the situation for one, but for two, pubs were and are important to communities. I'm not a pub person myself but for generations our entire way of life and celebrations and socialising happens in the pubs. Fundraising in and support from local pubs was important to locals. Was just thinking the other day even how much I miss the craic and meeting up with friends the odd time, or nipping in before a wedding, etc. There's a lot of depression and worse now because - in some cases-people's only source of socialising is closed. It's very sad. Just wanted to say that. We're all going through tough times some of us for different reasons so lets remember that.

mirrorwall14 · 21-01-2021 08:48PM

We had in on the Monday we were due to start teaching online. It was murder. Trying to get our head around online classes while being taught buzz words and put in breakout rooms. Nightmare

mirrorwall14 · 21-01-2021 08:49PM

lulublue22 wrote: »

agh now who doesn’t love all the new buzz words and finding inventive ways to give them back or the sticky notes !

And the ‘oh that’s a wonderful idea’. I swear they half the time they have nothing prepared for the first inservice sand just use the ideas from the first one for the rest of it. Swapping them for new ones when they get bored. Honestly everyone ends up saying the same things. I was so not in the mood for it

lulublue22 · 21-01-2021 08:50PM

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

A part of me dies when I see an A3 page, post-it's and highlighters

Must print a t-shirt "I think all the other tables covered what we discussed"

LoL - every table after the unlucky feckers who go first steals that line. Even though there's always one eager beaver table TG. I need copious amounts of coffee to cope.

lulublue22 · 21-01-2021 08:51PM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

And the ‘oh that’s a wonderful idea’. I swear they half the time they have nothing prepared for the first inservice sand just use the ideas from the first one for the rest of it. Swapping them for new ones when they get bored. Honestly everyone ends up saying the same things. I was so not in the mood for it

They can be a dose alright.

Icyseanfitz · 21-01-2021 08:52PM

khalessi wrote: »

Did you see this Aodhan O Riordain in Dáil spoke well

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1352306715513991168?s=08

Make this man the minister, when she comes on at the end to say she has certainly picked a side, just not one that cares for the safety of families and staff :mad:

khalessi · 21-01-2021 08:52PM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

And the ‘oh that’s a wonderful idea’. I swear they half the time they have nothing prepared for the first inservice sand just use the ideas from the first one for the rest of it. Swapping them for new ones when they get bored. Honestly everyone ends up saying the same things. I was so not in the mood for it

I love how they think we havent come up with this stuff ourselves then i think back to last October when a document appeared telling us how to onlline teach after they contacted the schools asking what we were doing.

khalessi · 21-01-2021 08:55PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

Make this man the minister, when she comes on at the end to say she has certainly picked a side, just not one that cares doing the safety of families and staff :mad:

I'm delighted she picked a side, I await with baited breath for SNA allocation of 1:1, proper NEPS support with yearly multi disciplinary reviews, proper OT physio SLT and CAMHS access for children. I look forward to the reversal of cut in numers to SNAs and learning support.resource budgets.

Though I think I will be waiting

BonsaiKitten · 21-01-2021 08:55PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

What are peoples opinions on schools taking days off for inservice etc?

3 local schools off next friday, just think its slightly cheeky.

Gimme a day of teaching over a day of in-service any day of the week! They're not off on a jolly.

History Queen · 21-01-2021 08:57PM

Random sample wrote: »

What subject are you? We have moved on to jam board. It was actually described to us as an online version of post it notes.

Christ

BonsaiKitten · 21-01-2021 08:58PM

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

And the ‘oh that’s a wonderful idea’. I swear they half the time they have nothing prepared for the first inservice sand just use the ideas from the first one for the rest of it. Swapping them for new ones when they get bored. Honestly everyone ends up saying the same things. I was so not in the mood for it

Ah but do you not love having to create a shared poster on a piece of flipchart paper? And then think pair share about your learnings and maybe diamond rank some paper scraps.

So. Much. Fun. :rolleyes:

lulublue22 · 21-01-2021 08:58PM

khalessi wrote: »

I'm delighted she picked a side, I await with baited breath for SNA allocation of 1:1, proper NEPS support with yearly multi disciplinary reviews, proper OT physio SLT and CAMHS access for children. I look forward to the reversal of cut in numers to SNAs and learning support.resource budgets.

Though I think I will be waiting

That’s what boils my blood - cheap words for a cheap shot - pity gov weren’t on vulnerable students side all down through the years.

km79 · 21-01-2021 09:02PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

What are peoples opinions on schools taking days off for inservice etc?

3 local schools off next friday, just think its slightly cheeky.

The JCT have TOLD schools what dates they HAVE to be subjected to a day of online scutter
It’s not the schools choice
It’s the JCT/Dept of Education
But yes
Those lazy teachers looking for another day off

That’s secondary schools btw

Bananaleaf · 21-01-2021 09:08PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

I thought all the PDST staff were redeployed to help with the war effort?

Are you suggesting that the schools are making it up?

Bananaleaf · 21-01-2021 09:13PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Ah but do you not love having to create a shared poster on a piece of flipchart paper? And then think pair share about your learnings and maybe diamond rank some paper scraps.

So. Much. Fun. :rolleyes:

what about the first 30mins of EVERY SINGLE ONE that is wasted when we're brainstorming how we are going to make good communicators out of ourselves for the day.

Smacruairi · 21-01-2021 09:17PM

You know what would go a long way towards everything - Norma and Josepha stepping aside for the good of the country and letting Aodhan in to start from scratch.

Everybody would start anew and build towards something realistic. At the moment you have an entrenched DES who have managed to alienate absolutely everyone.

wirelessdude01 · 21-01-2021 09:20PM

am_zarathustra wrote: »

Talk to he department not the schools, I can't imagine anyone in the schools wants to sit through that nonsense volunteerily!

You forgot to put the word ever after wants.

KrustyUCC · 21-01-2021 09:20PM

An opposition spokesperson becoming a Minister lol

I'd walk to Mars quicker

am_zarathustra · 21-01-2021 09:25PM

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Ah but do you not love having to create a shared poster on a piece of flipchart paper? And then think pair share about your learnings and maybe diamond rank some paper scraps.

So. Much. Fun. :rolleyes:

Bananaleaf wrote: »

what about the first 30mins of EVERY SINGLE ONE that is wasted when we're brainstorming how we are going to make good communicators out of ourselves for the day.

Bunch of us left one year, they were using a meta-analysis they had clearly never read in a powerpoint they clearly hadn't made. I had read the paper so I asked a bunch of relatively basic questions about why they were drawing conclusions the author had cautioned against drawing. It was great craic, they then got very hot and bothered, became very defensive and were unbelievable rude and dismissive to another member of staff.....so we left! I'd actually question if you are available for work in the building and doing any useful work you'd have a good shot at it being impossible to actually do anything to you.

Some of the subject specific ones can be very good, depends on the subject and the person but you get the odd really brilliant one. I can think of one series that was so practical and routed in teaching that in an hour at it than I learned in a decade of other "active leaning" inservices

Running them at the moment is sheer madness though, the kids would still need emails answered about work, passwords reset etc

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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01