People are leaving WhatsApp

Mic 1972 · 14-01-2021 10:13PM #1

WhatsApp users are abandoning the platform for Telegram and Signal after Mark Zuckerberg updated its privacy policies to allow WhatsApp to share its users’ data with Facebook.

Telegram reported that 25 million people joined its service in just 72 hours, bringing its total active users to half a billion.
Signal has also seen a huge boost in numbers.

Are we seeing the beginning of something here?
I have downloaded both Telegram and Signal as i also won't be accepting WhatsApp new terms and conditions.
Maybe it's time to bring competitors into the arena

Smee_Again · 14-01-2021 10:14PM

Any evidence that WhatsApp have lost users?

JasonStatham · 14-01-2021 10:16PM

I wouldn't be surprised if it goes out of fashion. These tech things come and go. Remember MySpace? Remember bebo?

Mic 1972 · 14-01-2021 10:19PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

Any evidence that WhatsApp have lost users?

The deadline to accept the new condition is 8th Feb, not sure if anyone has left already - i haven't yet - but after the deadline whoever hasn't accepted the conditions will not be able to use the app anymore.
The millions of people who signed up for Telegram and Signal in the last few days might be an indication that WhatsApp is going to shed a few users soon.

Donald Trump · 14-01-2021 10:19PM

JasonStatham wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if it goes out of fashion. These tech things come and go. Remember MySpace? Remember bebo?

The fella who sold bebo for something like 300 or 400 million dollars bought it back about 2 years later for 1 million purely for nostalgic reasons

Edit: Was 5 years later and went from 850 million down to 1 million. He probably didn't get all the 850 million though! https://venturebeat.com/2013/07/01/bebo-bargain-after-selling-to-aol-for-850m-in-2008-founders-buy-it-back-for-1m/

Gmak2442 · 14-01-2021 10:21PM

In my case, it will depends on my gfs. I don't mind much: a new app is always funny; I don't think a famous app could be bad.

maccored · 14-01-2021 10:22PM

everyones stealing your data anyway

rdhma · 14-01-2021 10:23PM

Some Whatsapp groups I'm in have just moved to Signal.
Will be encouraging other groups to do so.
I have too many contacts on Whatsapp to be able to drop it completely, but will definitely be using it less.

Mic 1972 · 14-01-2021 10:23PM

Twitter will be next, its stocks value keep dropping.

Mic 1972 · 14-01-2021 10:25PM

maccored wrote: »

everyones stealing your data anyway

Some more than others
And too much power in the hands of too few companies has become a serious threat.

McMurphy · 14-01-2021 10:27PM

I still use Jumbuck on WAP.

biko · 14-01-2021 10:29PM

Recent and not so recent events have left Mark, Jeff, Jack, Sundar and Tim pretty much in charge of the planet.

doublejobbing 2 · 14-01-2021 10:33PM

Jim Corr used his Facebook to tell us he was leaving WhatsApp because, presumably, of its links to Facebook.

Tells you all you need to know about this alright.

14-01-2021 10:37PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Twitter will be next, its stocks value keep dropping.

Hopefully
Its the worst of all platforms
Absolutely horrid place.

I deleted all my fake accounts there lately, they must be hameorraging users

colm_mcm · 14-01-2021 10:38PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

The deadline to accept the new condition is 8th Feb, not sure if anyone has left already - i haven't yet - but after the deadline whoever hasn't accepted the conditions will not be able to use the app anymore.
The millions of people who signed up for Telegram and Signal in the last few days might be an indication that WhatsApp is going to shed a few users soon.

So what are you on about in your OP so?

Hercule Poirot · 14-01-2021 10:40PM

I don't use Facebook so this doesn't bother me in the slightest

NIMAN · 14-01-2021 10:41PM

I don't think enough people will leave to make them worry about it.

If something pops up asking is it ok that we can share your data with FB, 99.9% of users will click ok and get on with sending messages.

Silentcorner · 14-01-2021 10:42PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Jim Corr used his Facebook to tell us he was leaving WhatsApp because, presumably, of its links to Facebook.

Tells you all you need to know about this alright.

What are you doing following Jim Corr?

Rubberchikken · 14-01-2021 10:43PM

I've accepted their terms. No issue. Always use WhatsApp. Its handy. I've never used facebook etc. And have no interest in using them.

People aren't very smart if they complain about the changes to WhatsApp but willingly post their life on facebook, instagram etc.

freshpopcorn · 14-01-2021 10:43PM

There welcome to pictures of my cats and Christmas tree!

14-01-2021 10:45PM

How can I check if I accepted these terms?

Quantum Erasure · 14-01-2021 10:46PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Jim Corr used his Facebook to tell us he was leaving WhatsApp because, presumably, of its links to Facebook.

Tells you all you need to know about this alright.

I didnt believe you, but its actually true...

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158807400620867&id=600640866

Jimbob1977 · 14-01-2021 10:49PM

Facebook own WhatsApp.

I don't see the big deal.

SnuggyBear · 14-01-2021 10:50PM

I'd like to use something else but it would be hard to get my friends to move.
I have deleted Facebook, twitter, Instagram and I've reduced my Google and amazon use as much as I can.

RobAMerc · 14-01-2021 10:53PM

as far as I know this is not true - because the EU wouldnt allow it and FB had to comply
it is true in the rest of the world

gozunda · 14-01-2021 10:53PM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Facebook own WhatsApp.

I don't see the big deal.

New policy

The updated privacy policy requires users to “agree” to share data it collects about you — such as your phone number and location — with Facebook by Feb. 8 or else lose access to their accounts.

This data will be shared with the broader Facebook network, such as Instagram and Messenger, and applies regardless of whether you have accounts or profiles there.

The option to share data with Facebook has existed on the app for years, but up until now, it was only an option.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7570323/whatsapp-facebook-privacy-policy-explained/

An Ri rua · 14-01-2021 10:54PM

doublejobbing 2 wrote: »

Jim Corr used his Facebook to tell us he was leaving WhatsApp because, presumably, of its links to Facebook.

Tells you all you need to know about this alright.

I found out on Boards from one of his fanboys.

rom · 14-01-2021 10:55PM

RobAMerc wrote: »

as far as I know this is not true - because the EU wouldnt allow it and FB had to comply
it is true in the rest of the world

You still get the question to accept here but you don't have to. In the US they can stop it working if you don't accept but not here.

The Whatzapp lads left a long time ago.

osarusan · 14-01-2021 11:00PM

Seems not to be the case in Europe at least.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/whatsapp-says-european-users-do-not-have-to-share-data-with-facebook-1.4452435

WhatsApp says European users do not have to share data with Facebook
Company dismisses reports it is forcing users to agree to share info with the social network
...

Multiple media organisations reported that WhatsApp users were effectively being given an ultimatum: agree to share personal data such as contacts, phone numbers and photos with Facebook by February 8th or stop using the messaging service.

However, WhatsApp’s Irish arm, said on Thursday that although users in Europe are in the process of being issued new terms of services to which they must agree, the revised agreement did not include data sharing.

“There are no changes to WhatsApp’s data-sharing practices in the European region arising from the updated terms of service and privacy policy. For the avoidance of any doubt, it is still the case that WhatsApp does not share European region WhatsApp user data with Facebook for the purpose of Facebook using this data to improve its products or advertisements,” a spokeswoman said.

rom · 14-01-2021 11:13PM

osarusan wrote: »

Seems not to be the case in Europe at least.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/whatsapp-says-european-users-do-not-have-to-share-data-with-facebook-1.4452435

I am going through a VPN out through the US for whatzapp and I got asked to accept the terms. Did anyone else get that?

15-01-2021 12:01AM

RobAMerc wrote: »

as far as I know this is not true - because the EU wouldnt allow it and FB had to comply
it is true in the rest of the world

Exactly. These new terms and conditions which allow WhatsApp to share your data with Facebook do not apply in Europe.

People are leaving WhatsApp

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