People are leaving WhatsApp

Banana Republic 1

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Europe too

No GDPR won’t allow it, either you agree to the new pro GDPR rules for the EU or your profile is deleted, according to Jess Kelly on newstalk.

paw patrol

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

I'm not up to anything illegal anyway.

Sir Oxman wrote: »

That's what they rely on and it works.

And the last one should never be used as an excuse, seriously!

agreed, part of me cries when I see people use that excuse or it's cousin "you've nothing to fear if you aren't doing something wrong"

no awareness that "what is wrong" can change and be historically used against you. Or just the general notion of having a private life that is ...well private.

Also that you may actually want to do something illegal in peace.:pac:

RobertFoster

RobertFoster wrote: »

Whatsapp delays data-sharing update after user backlash over privacy concerns - February 8th TOS deadline moved to May 15th instead.

Back to normal then. Everyone can sell up those Signal shares.

Dante

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Linked-in is another depressing pile of sh'it - being almost obliged to keep a full record of your working life history for all to see and judge you on. Just because some website can be made and money made from it for the owners, doesn't mean it is a good thing for it to be made. Once a certain percentage of people are using it, it becomes the case that you are going against the grain not to be using it, so it isn't as clear cut as "its a choice, use it or dont".

I strongly disagree with this one, LinkedIn provides a lot of value for both recruiters and people looking for jobs. I have gotten a lot of great jobs through it as have many others. You just need to ignore all the ****e posted on the news feeds etc.

Gooey Looey

DaaaaaaaaaaN wrote: »

I strongly disagree with this one, LinkedIn provides a lot of value for both recruiters and people looking for jobs. I have gotten a lot of great jobs through it as have many others. You just need to ignore all the ****e posted on the news feeds etc.

I agree. I got my current job through LinkedIn 5 years ago. It wasn't advertised anywhere else. I'll most likely get my next one through it too!

Akrasia

osarusan wrote: »

Seems not to be the case in Europe at least.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/technology/whatsapp-says-european-users-do-not-have-to-share-data-with-facebook-1.4452435

If I send a WhatsApp message to one of my relatives in the US will their WhatsApp profile send all my contact details to Facebook?

Gooey Looey

Mr.S wrote: »

WhatsApp will still prevail as the messaging app of choice tbh. Signal and Telegram while better on paper from a privacy and security POV - lack the features of WhatsApp (for now) - the average end user only cares about that, and couldn't really give a hoot about the new WhatsApp data sharing policy. I doubt many people even understood what it means, and only downloaded Signal / Telegram because of the viral posts and news coverage.

Telegram lacks no features compared to Whatsapp, in fact it's well ahead on features!

Gooey Looey

Mr.S wrote: »

Do they have group video calls yet? That was / is a big missing feature.

I also find audio calls a bit patchy compared to WhatsApp, which is crystal clear.

Group video calls are promised soon, although this is something I'll never use. I've had no problems with Telegram audio calls, use it daily.

DaaaaaaaaaaN

DaaaaaaaaaaN wrote: »

I strongly disagree with this one, LinkedIn provides a lot of value for both recruiters and people looking for jobs. I have gotten a lot of great jobs through it as have many others. You just need to ignore all the ****e posted on the news feeds etc.

It's gone to the dogs for people sharing guff in the past couple of years but I'd agree it's a good service when you filter out all the facebook type stuff.

Gooey Looey

Mr.S wrote: »

So does lack a major feature

Signal on the other hand, has a woeful UI compared to WhatsApp.

I wouldn't call it a major feature, I rarely use video calls.

True about signal, it's a bit of a mess

Mic 1972

Signal and Telegram have the same features as Whatsapp but they are safer and don't sell our personal data.
On top of that, you can download series and movies on Telegram.
For free :-)

Mic 1972

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Signal and Telegram have the same features as Whatsapp but they are safer and don't sell our personal data.
On top of that, you can download series and movies on Telegram.
For free :-)

Very strange that someone so interested in protecting their data would download pirate crap from unknown sources and call it an advantage.

Mic 1972

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Very strange that someone so interested in protecting their data would download pirate crap from unknown sources and call it an advantage.

I see that as an additional benefit, you dont have to use the feature if you don't want to.

Mic 1972

Mic 1972 wrote: »

I see that as an additional benefit, you dont have to use the feature if you don't want to.

But you’re using it because it’s “safer” than Whatsapp yet you’re downloading random files from strangers. Doesn’t really add up unless the personal data thing is just a buzzword people like to use, which I suspect it is for many people.

Mic 1972

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

But you’re using it because it’s “safer” than Whatsapp yet you’re downloading random files from strangers. Doesn’t really add up unless the personal data thing is just a buzzword people like to use, which I suspect it is for many people.

Considering how much power we have handed over multinationals purely by allowing them to collect our personal data, than i would say that it's more than just a buzz word.
Telegram allows file sharing so you can download files that other users are uploading, i doubt your data goes to Mark Zuckergerg

grogi

My question would be: can you easily transfer your history from iOS -> Android and other way around in those apps?

It's such a pain with WhatApp...

biko

Backup, transfer, restore
https://www.minitool.com/news/whatsapp-backup.html

grogi

biko wrote: »

Backup, transfer, restore
https://www.minitool.com/news/whatsapp-backup.html

Its not that easy, as you cannot restore on iOS from Android backup or the other way round. But that's beyond of scope of this thread...

fantaiscool

It will come down to whether or not women leave the app. Men will follow if they do. Men will stay if they don't. Zuckerberg seems pretty sharp and knows that. I think Whatsapp will be fine.

Got one of two messages today from contacts leaving whatsapp due to privacy concerns.

I had to laugh, because these messages were from people who upload their whole lives to facebook or instagram every single day, and often without concern for anyone else's privacy when they do.

And suddenly they have concerns about privacy. :rolleyes:

nolivesmatter

What are people using Whatsapp for that has them so concerned about their privacy anyway? I thought we were all supposed to operate under the assumption that there is no guarantee of privacy online.

biko

Privacy doesn't have to mean secrecy.
I don't particularly fancy letting Mark Z and his business friends know what I and my family or friends are texting about.

Also, Signal is trusted by Snowden which is enough in my book.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Got one of two messages today from contacts leaving whatsapp due to privacy concerns.

I had to laugh, because these messages were from people who upload their whole lives to facebook or instagram every single day, and often without concern for anyone else's privacy when they do.

And suddenly they have concerns about privacy. :rolleyes:

They better get used to sms again.

Mic 1972

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

They better get used to sms again.

or they can use Signal and Telegram like a lot of people are doing

Mic 1972

Mic 1972 wrote: »

or they can use Signal and Telegram like a lot of people are doing

This mass migration isn’t happening. The signal or telegram icon might look nice on the phone but it’s not much use when you can’t message 95% of your contacts with them.

DavyD_83

Mic 1972 wrote: »

Considering how much power we have handed over multinationals purely by allowing them to collect our personal data, than i would say that it's more than just a buzz word.
Telegram allows file sharing so you can download files that other users are uploading, i doubt your data goes to Mark Zuckergerg

Have we learnt nothing from the days of Limewire and free viruses and malware in every download?

Zuckerberg is unlikely to use your credit card details. He already knows more about you then your mam, wife and best mate combined and mostly only uses it to sell you stuff better.

I gotta check out the actual change to terms before completely dismissing/accepting but o doubt it actually changes anything they've been doing up to now.

biko

If I can get maybe 10 people to install Signal then that's 90% of my Whatsapp traffic accounted for.

Gooey Looey

I had about 8 telegram contacts 2 years ago, I now have about 40!

ben.schlomo

https://www.newstalk.com/news/heres-why-so-many-people-are-moving-from-whatsapp-to-signal-1136636?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1610976326

So no changes for users in Europe. Fight the power man!

Mic 1972

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

This mass migration isn’t happening. The signal or telegram icon might look nice on the phone but it’s not much use when you can’t message 95% of your contacts with them.

I migrated a good 90% of my contacts on Signal and Telegram, they are still on WhatsApp too but seem happy with the new options.
And I keep getting notifications of new contacts signing up, so it looks like something is happening