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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #4412
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    majcos wrote: »
    Data from HPSC 14 epidemiological report publicly published online.


    Have you a link?


  • #4413
    antodeco
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,690 ✭✭✭✭antodeco


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Do the cases today broadly match the positive swabs? It would be great if they now correlate.

    Oh my. Swabs do not equal cases.

    @Mod, maybe this should be put in the OP?


  • #4414
    degsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭degsie


    antodeco wrote: »
    Oh my. Swabs do not equal cases.

    @Mod, maybe this should be put in the OP?

    eh, positive swap=case, no?


  • #4415
    gipi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭gipi


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    You can only report on outbreaks that happened in the past. We dont know about the ones this week yet

    I appreciate that, but how far back are they going, I wonder? Obviously the outbreaks reported in pubs and schools happened prior to 24th Dec, which puts the info 3 weeks in arrears - but could it be more?


  • #4416
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Have you a link?

    Yes. Sorry to hear Google is not working.

    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/covid-1914-dayepidemiologyreports/COVID-19_14_day_epidemiology_Webite%20report_20210111_v1.pdf


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  • #4417
    StevenToast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,049 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    46 dead.... Brutal numbers...will be high for the next couple of weeks...

    All because Ryan Tubridy and his fans had to have their magical little christmas...

    Pathetic...

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



  • #4418
    Always_Running
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭Always_Running


    Happydays2020 wrote: »
    Do the cases today broadly match the positive swabs? It would be great if they now correlate.

    2,456 was the positive swab count.


  • #4419
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    antodeco wrote: »
    Oh my. Swabs do not equal cases.

    @Mod, maybe this should be put in the OP?

    We know that but there is a broad correlation. We also know that the mismatches between the numbers of positive swabs and cases announced made front page news last week so I do not think this is irrelevant.

    But feel free to report my post and if a mod wants us not to engage in that particular discussion I will be very happy to resist.


  • #4420
    Car99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,534 ✭✭✭Car99


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    The office is far from ceremonial. How do you imagine new Dails commence and new governments given their authority?

    The preseidfnt has no power his post is ceremonial. It's a requirement of his office that he has to appoint a government but he cannot reject or choose another government other than that proposed by the Dail.


  • #4421
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Numbers still out of whack.

    Galway treble recent numbers. Surely backlogs in there. The reporting system is a shambles tbh. A surge in numbers and excel or whatever inadequate system falls over.


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  • #4422
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,525 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    There were 146 in ICU yesterday. 158 today. Those deaths are not recent. They need to be more transparent on these things. I'll bet my left bollock that deaths will be below 20 tomorrow.

    Mod:

    If you have no proof for this and other posts you have made this evening please direct these sort of posts to the Conspiracy Theory Forum

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #4423
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    This is what I said "Obviously some people in their 30s and 40s will have compromised immune systems and have underlying health issues."
    I think that is a correct assumption or are you saying that 100% of people in their 30s and 40s have no underlying conditions. Really?

    Have you a reference for your assertion that the majority of ICU admissions are people in their 50s and 60s? I know for a fact that approx 66% of people admitted to ICU this month are over 65.
    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Latest HPSC report. You cans the breakdown by age admitted to hospital etc. Not great.
    539032.png

    Caveat emptor posted the age breakdown of ICU admissions.

    And this was the scene at our peak back in April.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0404/1128465-covid19-coronavirus-tracker/

    https://www.imt.ie/news/median-age-covid-19-icu-admissions-62-years-03-04-2020/


  • #4424
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    You're making a lot of assumptions there.
    It isn't obvious that these people in ICU in their 30s or 40s have underlying conditions. You're assuming that.

    I said that i assume some people in thier 30s and 40s have underlying health conditions. This would back up that assumption, chart from HPSC.
    Screen-Shot-2021-01-12-at-19-14-50.pnganime baby boy
    https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/underlyingconditionsreports/Underlying%20conditions%20summary_1.0v%2014122020.pdf



    Martina1991 wrote: »
    The majority of ICU admissions is people in their 50s or 60s. That was the same last Spring and is the same now. Is that old? I don't think so.
    Have you a link to your assertion that the majority of ICU admissions are people in their 50s and 60s.


  • #4425
    Sammy2012
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,319 ✭✭✭Sammy2012


    Is testing of close contacts happening again?


  • #4426
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    From what I can make out from the 04/01/2021 to 09/01/2021 using epi reports

    45 deaths in hospital
    7 in ICU
    38 not admitted to ICU
    1 Healthcare worker

    28/12/2020 to 09/01/2021
    age groups
    2 45-55
    7 55-64
    20 65-74
    45 75-84
    83 85+
    4 unknown


  • #4427
    Wombatman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,349 ✭✭✭Wombatman


    Xenji wrote: »
    A large outbreak in at least one Public service building in Castlebar is pushing the Mayo numbers up.

    Public service building? Could you be more specific?


  • #4428
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    There have been a lot of suspiciousions over this since the Summer. That they let cases and deaths backlog for when they want to send a message. Cases have seen big highs before some sort of government/NPHET meeting before dropping back to average. Today we had a massive drop in cases but for some reason today they have decided that it was the time to update us on backlog deaths.

    If it turns out that they have been manoeuvring numbers to send messages, I would fully advocate taking measures against whoever would be behind it.

    Yep, among a select few posters with a weird obsession with claiming some kind of 'motive' of the government to scare people. Very small number of people think this, don't speak as if a large number of people have voiced those suspicions

    Almost all deaths reported today are from January, like for jesus sake can you hear yourself or what? A 'back log' from a week and half of January? Wow yeh what an utter conspiracy. A registration of a death taking a week or so is of course completely normal and pretty damn fast if anything. And what about this random tuesday evening a few weeks into level 5 makes you think it's a good time for a 'message' anyway. Literally could not be more unremarkable of a day for it. Does not matter an iota what day it was released anyway you'd be in saying the same . Ugh, so much wrong with this post, just blood boiling stuff.


  • #4429
    degsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭degsie


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    anime baby boy

    What has that to do with the price of turnips?


  • #4430
    Just Saying
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 306 ✭✭Just Saying


    Always_Running wrote: »
    High numbers in Connacht counties Mayo, Galway and Roscommon and the Galway, Mayo hospitals has a lot of covid patients. Connacht normally has the lowest numbers of any province.

    Possibly a higher proportion than nationally of emigrants returning in the run up to Xmas might have spiked case numbers in rural areas?


  • #4431
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    I said that i assume some people in thier 30s and 40s have underlying health conditions. This would back up that assumption, chart from HPSC.

    Have you a link to your assertion that the majority of ICU admissions are people in their 50s and 60s.
    Yes, people of all ages have underlying conditions. You were implying all younger people in ICU had underlying conditions. It came across like you were explaining away the seriousness of their illness just because they may have some other condition.

    Do you own googling. majcos pointed you the HPSC data I'm not getting into it with you again.

    ICUs are full of people who are not "old".


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  • #4432
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    degsie wrote: »
    What has that to do with the price of turnips?


    some kids look like turnips.


  • #4433
    bb1234567
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    The new variant seems to cause a rapid very high peak in cases but rapid decline too . South Africa and UK already are trending downward in cases although deaths are extremely high in both countries


  • #4434
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,248 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The new variant seems to cause a rapid very high peak in cases. A very steep incline and decline. South Africa and UK already are trending downward in cases although deaths are extremely high in both countries

    It's not the "new varient" thats doing this.....


  • #4435
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    Yes, people of all ages have underlying conditions. You were implying all younger people in ICU had underlying conditions. It came across like you were explaining away the seriousness of their illness just because they may have some other condition.

    Do you own googling. majcos pointed you the HPSC data I'm not getting into it with you again.

    ICUs are full of people who are not "old".


    I did not say anything of the sorts, you made that assumption from what i wrote but your assumption was totally wrong. Why don't you quote me if I said that? Of course you cant becasue I did not.


    You also said that most people going into ICU are in there 50s and 60s where as according to RTE news tonight who get their figures from HPSC that is verifiably not true.


    Unfortunately it seems that some people who work within the HSE are not capable of simple sentence comprehension without misrepresentation.. They are also incapable of backing up their own unsubstantiated assertions with verifiable facts. Very Trumpian.


  • #4436
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,178 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Better late than never. I can't understand why this wasn't done before now. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1349073203298267139?s=19


  • #4437
    Wolf359f
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Better late than never. I can't understand why this wasn't done before now. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1349073203298267139?s=19

    I can remember Donnelly talking about random testing at airports, what ever happened to that?
    So just fly into Belfast instead?
    And I hope self swabbing postal tests will be rejected. Someone could just not swab anything and post it back!


  • #4438
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    The new variant seems to cause a rapid very high peak in cases but rapid decline too . South Africa and UK already are trending downward in cases although deaths are extremely high in both countries

    Cases shot up because of social contacts and, to some extent, the new variant. Cases are falling because of the severe restrictions. I'm afraid the new variant cannot take any credit for quick fall in numbers we've seen over the last week and I'm actually worried the increased prevalence of the new variant will slow our downard progress. hope it doesn't!


  • #4439
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Wolf359f wrote: »
    I can remember Donnelly talking about random testing at airports, what ever happened to that?
    So just fly into Belfast instead?
    And I hope self swabbing postal tests will be rejected. Someone could just not swab anything and post it back!

    Resources we were told. We could have had a risk analysis approach like Greece did but not to be.


  • #4440
    Irish Steve
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Eivor wrote: »
    I know it’s early but I’m calling that reach of the year already.

    You can call it a reach, I know exactly how a young autistic child who has recently started special unit school is responding to the absence of that unit at the moment, she spends significant hours every day using a tablet unit watching you tube videos, she's almost word perfect on repeating what's coming, but getting her to express her thoughts verbally is almost impossible, and frustration for whatever reason, which is common, can result in the tablet bouncing off the wall on a regular basis. It doesn't break because it's in the equivalent of an Otter box, but even that is not a guarantee that it won't break.

    If it does break, to restore some normality a replacement unit is a very high priority, and it does help very significantly in providing the appropriate method to unwind her stress.

    So, not a reach, just a less than normal reason for someone else possibly needing a replacement piece of hardware that might seem at first sight to be non essential.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



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  • #4441
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,031 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Better late than never. I can't understand why this wasn't done before now. https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1349073203298267139?s=19

    It’s better than nothing but still a weak effort. It takes a while until the infection can be detected by a test, so in total there are several days here where that testing is useless. Getting infected after the test and before flying being ignored.

    We need two week quarantine for all that fly in. We will only have to do it for a few months now till the vaccine has an impact.


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