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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #4352
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    So the deaths have been spread out over the last couple of weeks and 2 from last month.

    If the deaths are low tomorrow I will be thinking that somebody is playing games with this.

    Not really

    Just depends on when they're notified of the deaths so yes they can go up and down


  • #4353
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    So the deaths have been spread out over the last couple of weeks and 2 from last month.

    If the deaths are low tomorrow I will be thinking that somebody is playing games with this.

    What exactly do you mean by that? Death are as reported following registering of deaths - usually by family.

    Theses no manipulation if figures, if that's what you mean.

    Perhaps you can elaborate.


  • #4354
    Ficheall
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    If the deaths are low tomorrow I will be thinking that somebody is playing games with this.
    Do go on - what do you feel their evil plan is?


  • #4355
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    https://gut.bmj.com/content/early/2021/01/04/gutjnl-2020-323020

    Gut microbiome relevant.
    Cannot quite work out if they think pre covid gut microbiome is relevant to getting or not getting, but at least it may be relevant during disease to mitigate severity, and afterwards to clear lingering problems. Meds will affect so perhaps there should be supplementary probiotics etc.
    Worth taking good probiotics with the vit D, and making a bit of sauerkraut..

    And lots of fibre!


  • #4356
    JazzyJ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 686 ✭✭✭JazzyJ


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    One day doesn't make a trend. Wait a day or two. And the Hospital cases lag by up to 13 days, with ICU after that again. Not for the first time, you have predicted far too early.

    The swabs and positivity rates are definitely trending lower though https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/


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  • #4357
    landofthetree
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    The dogs in the street were saying that opening up retail and hospitality in the weeks coming up to Christmas was a bad idea.
    Now we have 46 deaths today RIP.
    I hope everyone is happy now with how Christmas went for them.

    Why didnt the dogs on the streets stay away from retail and hospitality?

    The fact is opening up stuff was hugely popular with the public.


  • #4358
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    The deaths are a factor of the case numbers. They are very similar to the factor of deaths v case numbers in the north. While the North has been getting 10, 15 deaths per day regularly for the past ages, that is the same as us getting 30, 45. It was due to their case numbers. Now we will have proportionally higher numbers. There is no conspiracy. No one is manipulating anyone. The deaths will be higher when there is higher virus in the community. It is very annoying that people call conspiracy when the truth is under their nose..


  • #4359
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    The Irish Times reporting of today's numbers leaves the impression that they are really just reporting this stuff in bad faith now.

    Every day the headline contains cases and deaths. Every day. Except today. Today, it's just the deaths. No mention of the cases until you click into it and at that, nothing said about the fact that the cases are down further today.

    Also nothing about when the deaths took place. Obviously, it is very sad to learn of another 46 deaths. It's tragic for so many families and may they have comfort and peace.

    It's bad enough having to live through this nightmare without being only given partial information by what is supposed to be and used to be a newspaper of record.

    I'm not downplaying Covid, but the Media has used this virus to create maximum fear in return for print sales and clicks on websites. Which is pretty poor by them and it's all of them not just the so called lower base tabloids.


  • #4360
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    The Irish Times reporting of today's numbers leaves the impression that they are really just reporting this stuff in bad faith now.

    Every day the headline contains cases and deaths. Every day. Except today. Today, it's just the deaths. No mention of the cases until you click into it and at that, nothing said about the fact that the cases are down further today.

    Also nothing about when the deaths took place. Obviously, it is very sad to learn of another 46 deaths. It's tragic for so many families and may they have comfort and peace.

    It's bad enough having to live through this nightmare without being only given partial information by what is supposed to be and used to be a newspaper of record.

    There have been a lot of suspiciousions over this since the Summer. That they let cases and deaths backlog for when they want to send a message. Cases have seen big highs before some sort of government/NPHET meeting before dropping back to average. Today we had a massive drop in cases but for some reason today they have decided that it was the time to update us on backlog deaths.

    If it turns out that they have been manoeuvring numbers to send messages, I would fully advocate taking measures against whoever would be behind it.


  • #4361
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    They have gone down morning to evening before.

    No one gets discharged over night. There's a! Full days discharges and about 8 hour admissions between the morning number and the evening numbers.

    Thtt said discharges are way up now (because admissions were up 10 days ago).

    Compare morning to morning or evening to evening.

    Noted. Last time the afternoon update was lower than the morning update was 1st January though, so I do take it as a slight positive sign.


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  • #4362
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    There have been a lot of suspiciousions over this since the Summer. That they let cases and deaths backlog for when they want to send a message. Cases have seen big highs before some sort of government/NPHET meeting before dropping back to average. Today we had a massive drop in cases but for some reason today they have decided that it was the time to update us on backlog deaths.

    If it turns out that they have been manoeuvring numbers to send messages, I would fully advocate taking measures against whoever would be behind it.

    This is ridiculous talk.


  • #4363
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    hullaballoo wrote: »
    The Irish Times reporting of today's numbers leaves the impression that they are really just reporting this stuff in bad faith now.

    Every day the headline contains cases and deaths. Every day. Except today. Today, it's just the deaths. No mention of the cases until you click into it and at that, nothing said about the fact that the cases are down further today.

    Also nothing about when the deaths took place. Obviously, it is very sad to learn of another 46 deaths. It's tragic for so many families and may they have comfort and peace.

    It's bad enough having to live through this nightmare without being only given partial information by what is supposed to be and used to be a newspaper of record.

    I get what you are trying to say, but the headline news is going to be the 46 deaths.

    They do mention that 44 of the deaths occurred in January in their article.


  • #4364
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,609 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Why didnt the dogs on the streets stay away from retail and hospitality?

    The fact is opening up stuff was hugely popular with the public.

    Well I hope they had an very merry Christmas.


  • #4365
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    There have been a lot of suspiciousions over this since the Summer. That they let cases and deaths backlog for when they want to send a message. Cases have seen big highs before some sort of government/NPHET meeting before dropping back to average. Today we had a massive drop in cases but for some reason today they have decided that it was the time to update us on backlog deaths.

    If it turns out that they have been manoeuvring numbers to send messages, I would fully advocate taking measures against whoever would be behind it.

    Would you ever cop on and join the real world? That's pure nonsense.


  • #4366
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    Martina1991 wrote: »
    You're making a lot of assumptions there.

    It isn't obvious that these people in ICU in their 30s or 40s have underlying conditions. You're assuming that.

    The majority of ICU admissions is people in their 50s or 60s. That was the same last Spring and is the same now. Is that old? I don't think so.

    "Older people" would not be able for ICU.
    Here's a thread explaining what its like.

    https://twitter.com/Jopo_dr/status/1344620439767666688?s=20
    This is what I said "Obviously some people in their 30s and 40s will have compromised immune systems and have underlying health issues."
    I think that is a correct assumption or are you saying that 100% of people in their 30s and 40s have no underlying conditions. Really?

    Have you a reference for your assertion that the majority of ICU admissions are people in their 50s and 60s? I know for a fact that approx 66% of people admitted to ICU this month are over 65.


  • #4367
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Gruffalux wrote: »
    This is ridiculous talk.
    You can see why people might be bamboozled by the daily numbers. They go into the big HSPC cauldron and you never know what might be poured out!


  • #4368
    degsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭degsie


    So, this is the sort of krap that has us in the current state. Argos recently suspended click & collect to stop people attending the stores. This has now been changed such that only 'essential' items can be collected. There is a post on boards where somebody just collected a PS4 controller!


  • #4369
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,507 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Given our small population, you'd think we would get the population vaccinated very fast.

    But obviously not.

    Given the simplicity of the vaccination plan, you'd think people would understand it very fast.

    But obviously not.


  • #4370
    berocca2016
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 242 ✭✭berocca2016


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Do go on - what do you feel their evil plan is?

    Probably to drive Gail, David, Sarah-Louise and Bethany into the canal.


  • #4371
    gipi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,297 ✭✭✭gipi


    https://twitter.com/higginsdavidw/status/1349049803045527552?s=19

    Interesting tweet regarding the latest outbreak figures. Outbreaks reported in schools and pubs in the first week of Jan!
    The outbreak figures don't show what's happening now, but are historical, it seems. Very difficult to base any exit strategies on this type of data, I would think?


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  • #4372
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    majcos wrote: »
    Of those admitted to ICU in the 14 day period up to January 10th, 51% are under 65 and 84% are under 75.


    According to the RTE news 65% admitted to ICU this month are over 65. have you a link?


  • #4373
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,194 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    46 Deaths (RIP)
    3,086 Cases.
    604 cases are in Galway, 574 in Dublin, 466 in Mayo, 187 in Cork, 138 in Limerick and the remaining 1,117 cases are spread across all other counties
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  • #4374
    Knine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,773 ✭✭✭Knine


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    The dogs in the street were saying that opening up retail and hospitality in the weeks coming up to Christmas was a bad idea.
    Now we have 46 deaths today RIP.
    I hope everyone is happy now with how Christmas went for them.

    I hope you meant - I hope everyone that met up in big groups & broke every Covid Recommendation going are happy with how Christmas went.

    Also the non believers. I am sick of seeing their social media rubbish. They often tend to be people with not many vulnerable family members.


  • #4375
    spookwoman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


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  • #4376
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Car99 wrote: »
    We'll be the best boys and girls in Europe again in a few weeks after being the worst in the world yesterday. The media are so fcuking annoying with RTE top of the pile with their blasting misery headlines when it is all going wrong. When it starts to improve they still try to make it look miserable. Fcukers.

    Caitríona Glynn on Six One there: "As cases keep rising, we'll discuss the implications with Ronan Glynn..."
    Cases haven't increased in several days, pushing malicious lies designed to intimidate the viewing public. Numbers falling off simply isn't worth dwelling on, shameless bias from our national broadcaster.


  • #4377
    10000maniacs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,609 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Knine wrote: »
    I hope you meant - I hope everyone that met up in big groups & broke every Covid Recommendation going are happy with how Christmas went.

    Also the non believers. I am sick of seeing their social media rubbish. They often tend to be people with not many vulnerable family members.

    Yeah it was a dig at the shameful things I saw going in in the weeks before Christmas. Grafton Street, Henry Street. etc.
    Packed streets with people without masks roaring into each others mask less faces. Not giving a fiddlers.


  • #4378
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Ronan Glynn is on RTÉ with Caitríona Perry. The 2 of them are talking like they are acting. It's bizarre to look at. Not an ounce of naturalness between them. Wierd as ****.


  • #4379
    giveitholly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,239 ✭✭✭giveitholly


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    46 Deaths (RIP)
    3,086 Cases.
    604 cases are in Galway, 574 in Dublin, 466 in Mayo, 187 in Cork, 138 in Limerick and the remaining 1,117 cases are spread across all other counties

    As always,late to the party!!!!!


  • #4380
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,190 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    46 deaths unfortunately looks like it might just be the start.

    Anecdotally hearing of a backlog in some funeral homes delaying families from holding funerals by a few days.


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  • #4381
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Ronan Glynn is on RTÉ with Caitríona Perry. The 2 off them are talking like they are acting. It's bizarre to look at. Non an ounce of naturalness between them. Wierd as ****.

    No chemistry eh?

    This isnt Corrie!


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