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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #4322
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    is_that_so wrote: »
    1692 in hospital - down 8 on this morning.
    158 in ICU.

    Hopefully the 1st sign of hospital numbers stabilising. I do expect them to go up more over the few days, but I can't remember any day for the last 2 weeks when they've gone down.


  • #4323
    JP100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 498 ✭✭JP100


    We have 13 hospitals with no ICU beds left and 46 deaths announced today. All the while we had a couple of posters this afternoon in this thread obsessing about whether schools can open at the end of January or not. Seriously, some people really need to get a grip of themselves.


  • #4324
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Galway has more cases than Dublin!

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1349054411486732288?s=19


  • #4325
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    harr wrote: »
    Still can’t understand after a year living with covid that nursing homes are still having huge outbreaks, is this down to poor procedure in the homes or how at stage can that happen..


    You could easily have an asymptomatic staff member bring it in. The asymptomatic nature of some infections make this virus tricky.


  • #4326
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Stheno wrote: »
    Galway has more cases than Dublin!

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1349054411486732288?s=19
    Any particular reason?


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  • #4327
    kilkenny31
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 701 ✭✭✭kilkenny31


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Hopefully the 1st sign of hospital numbers stabilising. I do expect them to go up more over the few days, but I can't remember any day for the last 2 weeks when they've gone down.

    I would say we have peaked. I imagine early next week we will have peak ICU.


  • #4328
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    Hopefully the 1st sign of hospital numbers stabilising. I do expect them to go up more over the few days, but I can't remember any day for the last 2 weeks when they've gone down.

    They have gone down morning to evening before.

    No one gets discharged over night. There's a! Full days discharges and about 8 hour admissions between the morning number and the evening numbers.

    Thtt said discharges are way up now (because admissions were up 10 days ago).

    Compare morning to morning or evening to evening.


  • #4329
    cameramonkey
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,220 ✭✭✭cameramonkey


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I would say we have peaked. I imagine early next week we will have peak ICU.


    13 days seems to be the lag between first symptoms and hospitalisation according to John Campbell.


  • #4330
    Gruffalux
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,023 ✭✭✭Gruffalux


    https://gut.bmj.com/content/early/2021/01/04/gutjnl-2020-323020

    Gut microbiome relevant.
    Cannot quite work out if they think pre covid gut microbiome is relevant to getting or not getting, but at least it may be relevant during disease to mitigate severity, and afterwards to clear lingering problems. Meds will affect so perhaps there should be supplementary probiotics etc.
    Worth taking good probiotics with the vit D, and making a bit of sauerkraut..


  • #4331
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Stheno wrote: »
    Galway has more cases than Dublin!

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1349054411486732288?s=19

    There is still clearly some issue reporting cases from all the labs on time.

    Case number still don't add up to swabs and that Galway number just can't be right- I assume the Galway numbers were low in the days previous?


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  • #4332
    Eivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1349013375020388353?s=20

    Probably posted already but the feckers have some neck. None of them have to abide by restrictions. Just us plebs


  • #4333
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Always_Running wrote: »
    Sadly like April most deaths in nursing/care homes it seems.

    Have you a link to that?


  • #4334
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eivor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1349013375020388353?s=20

    Probably posted already but the feckers have some neck. None of them have to abide by restrictions. Just us plebs
    This is completely off-topic.


  • #4335
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,131 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Eivor wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1349013375020388353?s=20

    Probably posted already but the feckers have some neck. None of them have to abide by restrictions. Just us plebs

    Have you a link to a pleb who lost their job due to breaking restrictions?


  • #4336
    Eivor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭Eivor


    is_that_so wrote: »
    This is completely off-topic.

    They lost the whip for not abiding by the coronavirus restriction in place at the time


  • #4337
    Martina1991
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,548 ✭✭✭Martina1991


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Obviously some people in their 30s and 40s will have compromised immune systems and have underlying health issues. The sheer amount of people in the under 50 rage testing positive will lead to some ending up in ICU. Would be interesting to see some figures on the numbers. I would imagine the vast majority of people ending up in ICU will still be older people.
    You're making a lot of assumptions there.

    It isn't obvious that these people in ICU in their 30s or 40s have underlying conditions. You're assuming that.

    The majority of ICU admissions is people in their 50s or 60s. That was the same last Spring and is the same now. Is that old? I don't think so.

    "Older people" would not be able for ICU.
    Here's a thread explaining what its like.

    https://twitter.com/Jopo_dr/status/1344620439767666688?s=20

    alice14 wrote: »
    In the hospital I work in we currently have 9 in ICU, the majority are under 60. 3 in their 60s, 3 in their 50s, 2 in their 40s and one aged 30. This wasn’t that different from the 1st wave. Generally speaking if you’re over 75 you don’t get sent to ICU.

    Thankfully the majority of the people that have been admitted to our icu have been discharged but your recovery doesn’t end there. It takes a long time to get back to normal following a prolonged stay in ICU, and some never do, I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.

    We've a patient in ICU in their 20s, they've been in over 2 weeks. They are not the youngest person to be admitted to ICU either.

    We've also seen patients who were in hospital for weeks, even months with Covid, be discharged, and come back in again through ED with respiratory problems among other things.

    They don't appear as Covid admissions because they have cleared the virus, but they are still very much ill because of Covid. It's a long road to recovery for many.


  • #4338
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    normanoffside wrote: »
    There is still clearly some issue reporting cases from all the labs on time.

    Case number still don't add up to swabs and that Galway number just can't be right- I assume the Galway numbers were low in the days previous?

    I'm from Galway and while that figure seems mental there does seem to be an awful lot of people infected with it at the moment. There's about 10 cases where I work and another 10-15 on top of that being out as close contacts. It does seem pretty rampant, even if, surely, some of those numbers are down to delays in reporting.


  • #4339
    KrustyUCC
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    630 cases off the backlog at least

    Terrible death figures though

    RIP


  • #4340
    Xaniaj
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    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    630 cases off the backlog at least

    Terrible death figures though

    RIP

    Did we have 630 cases leftover in the backlog does anyone know?


  • #4341
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,144 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    I would say we have peaked. I imagine early next week we will have peak ICU.

    One day doesn't make a trend. Wait a day or two. And the Hospital cases lag by up to 13 days, with ICU after that again. Not for the first time, you have predicted far too early.


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  • #4342
    Stheno
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    Xaniaj wrote: »
    Did we have 630 cases leftover in the backlog does anyone know?

    Nope. About 1000 iirc


  • #4343
    Probes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Obviously some people in their 30s and 40s will have compromised immune systems and have underlying health issues. The sheer amount of people in the under 50 rage testing positive will lead to some ending up in ICU. Would be interesting to see some figures on the numbers. I would imagine the vast majority of people ending up in ICU will still be older people.

    This is not right. Whilst mortality is heavily skewed to older people, the rate of hospitalisations is much flatter across the age range. Hence there are likely a lot of hospitalised younger people. This is the message that needs to get out to people, it's not just death that is the concern, if you catch this there is a reasonable chance of being hospitalised, and a lot of those that aren't hospitalised will also be on the bubble of it. There are a lot of people getting this moderately or severely.


  • #4344
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    cameramonkey wrote: »
    Obviously some people in their 30s and 40s will have compromised immune systems and have underlying health issues. The sheer amount of people in the under 50 rage testing positive will lead to some ending up in ICU. Would be interesting to see some figures on the numbers. I would imagine the vast majority of people ending up in ICU will still be older people.

    Of those admitted to ICU in the 14 day period up to January 10th, 51% are under 65 and 84% are under 75.


  • #4345
    10000maniacs
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    The dogs in the street were saying that opening up retail and hospitality in the weeks coming up to Christmas was a bad idea.
    Now we have 46 deaths today RIP.
    I hope everyone is happy now with how Christmas went for them.


  • #4346
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    So the deaths have been spread out over the last couple of weeks and 2 from last month.

    If the deaths are low tomorrow I will be thinking that somebody is playing games with this.


  • #4347
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eivor wrote: »
    They lost the whip for not abiding by the coronavirus restriction in place at the time
    Shoehorned in here! Not even much of a story -party rules, punishment done.


  • #4348
    normanoffside
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Arghus wrote: »
    I'm from Galway and while that figure seems mental there does seem to be an awful lot of people infected with it at the moment. There's about 10 cases where I work and another 10-15 on top of that being out as close contacts. It does seem pretty rampant, even if, surely, some of those numbers are down to delays in reporting.

    Just wondering if the cases in Galway were lower in days previous?

    It just seems like one lab adding a load of backlog cases in one go.


  • #4349
    hullaballoo
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    The Irish Times reporting of today's numbers leaves the impression that they are really just reporting this stuff in bad faith now.

    Every day the headline contains cases and deaths. Every day. Except today. Today, it's just the deaths. No mention of the cases until you click into it and at that, nothing said about the fact that the cases are down further today.

    Also nothing about when the deaths took place. Obviously, it is very sad to learn of another 46 deaths. It's tragic for so many families and may they have comfort and peace.

    It's bad enough having to live through this nightmare without being only given partial information by what is supposed to be and used to be a newspaper of record.


  • #4350
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    10000maniacs wrote: »
    The dogs in the street were saying that opening up retail and hospitality in the weeks coming up to Christmas was a bad idea.
    Now we have 46 deaths today RIP.
    I hope everyone is happy now with how Christmas went for them.

    If Retail and hospitality were the biggest drivers then how come Dublin isn't absolutely riddled with this? Dublin has been consistently lower out of percentage population for the last 3 weeks.


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  • #4351
    KrustyUCC
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    10000maniacs wrote: »
    The dogs in the street were saying that opening up retail and hospitality in the weeks coming up to Christmas was a bad idea.
    Now we have 46 deaths today RIP.
    I hope everyone is happy now with how Christmas went for them.

    Yes I'm delighted thanks

    Got to visit who I wanted safely


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