Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 6:38pm

€50m for provision of online platforms?

She is throwing plenty of figures out.

downthemiddle · 08-01-2021 6:41pm

BonsaiKitten wrote: »

Not a dig at you here but I'd honestly love to know if any parent got something useful from those guidelines. So feckin woolly.

Don't worry, they are not my guidelines.

antgal23 · 08-01-2021 6:41pm

downthemiddle wrote: »

"There has been continuous engagement with education partners on this matter since
Monday, building on weekly engagement between partners and public health
throughout the school year. Despite the confirmation by Public Health that schools
remain safe, unfortunately it has not proved possible to get agreement to provide inperson learning for these groups.
In these circumstances, there is no alternative but to pause the limited reopening on
Monday subject to further engagement. As of Monday 11 January students, including
children with special needs, should be provided with a programme of remote learning.
The Department is conscious that closing schools has hugely adverse consequences
at individual, family and societal level. For children, it impacts on wellbeing, learning,
on social and emotional development.
School closure has significant impacts on children with special educational needs.
School closure also heightens student anxiety, particularly for the Leaving Certificate
cohort, in relation to state examinations.
It is important to note that NPHET remains of the view that schools are low risk
environments"

They are playing the finger pointing game.

So, if schools are safe why close them?

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 6:45pm

Talking to a colleague of mine who tested positive over Christmas. When they were asked with regards to their movement and where they had been over the two probable days when they become infected, the public health person talking to them said that it was more 90% likely that they picked it up in school on the 21st/22nd but because there was a slight doubt that they'd put it down as community transmission.

hesaidshesaid · 08-01-2021 6:46pm

eviltwin wrote: »

Teachers can’t really expect parents to cover the same work that would be covered in class? I’m working, it will be a miracle if we cover even the basics. As for Irish, forget it. I wouldn’t have a clue where to start.

Teachers definitely don't expect that from parents. But as you can see, the Department of Education does. Ridiculous.

My advice to you is to try to cover Maths and English most days and apart from that just try to keep sane. I mean that sincerely. Khalessi's thread on help for parents with homeschooling may be useful.

My friend is a secondary school teacher with three primary school kids who was told this morning that she can't prerecord lessons and has to do live teaching all day without childcare. So many parents are in similar situations. So please don't worry about teachers' expectations. We don't have any. Just do whatever is possible.

History Queen · 08-01-2021 6:50pm

Queried wrote: »

Can I ask why you think this? As a teacher who cares hugely about their students I find this insulting.

Check his posting history, all will be revealed!

hesaidshesaid · 08-01-2021 6:50pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Talking to a colleague of mine who tested positive over Christmas. When they were asked with regards to their movement and where they had been over the two probable days when they become infected, the public health person talking to them said that it was more 90% likely that they picked it up in school on the 21st/22nd but because there was a slight doubt that they'd put it down as community transmission.

Went into school to get books this morning and heard that 2 of our teachers tested positive that week too. One of them had a negative test, which was then chosen by the test centre as one to be randomly retested. It was positive. She ended up isolating alone in her apartment all over Christmas and New Years. Very tough. Again it was 'community transmission'.

BonsaiKitten · 08-01-2021 6:51pm

downthemiddle wrote: »

Don't worry, they are not my guidelines.

Oh sure I know it's the Departments wonderful online learning guidelines! Published in October and backdated to March or something like that, wasn't it? You couldn't make it up.

penny piper · 08-01-2021 6:55pm

I've just listened to the interview with Norma Foley with fmtv.......How she is allowed by interviewers to continuously bleat the same mantra it's beyond belief.....Has Ms.Foley been at the same meetings as the Unions? I've never listened to such drivel from a Politician in my life...

Stateofyou · 08-01-2021 6:58pm

downthemiddle wrote: »

FAO Parents these are the expectations that should be met.

"The following requirements in relation to remote teaching and learning of all
pupils/students are particularly important:
Regular engagement with pupils/students: It is important that teachers
engage with their pupils/students; in a primary setting this should, ideally, be on
a daily basis; in a post-primary context teachers should, as far as possible,
engage with students as per the normal school timetable.
A blend of guided and independent learning tasks/experiences:
Teacherpupil/student engagement should involve both direct teaching by the teacher
and the assignment of independent learning tasks for completion by the
pupils/students.
Appropriate and engaging learning opportunities: Teachers should ensure
that the chosen learning tasks give pupils/students an opportunity to
demonstrate their learning in a clear and concise way.
Learning tasks: The tasks chosen should be specifically aligned to the needs
of the pupil/student, including pupils/students with SEN, and should enable the
teacher to monitor progress and give constructive, developmental feedback to
support the next stages in their learning.
Two-way feedback between home and school: Schools should ensure that
two-way feedback between teachers and parents/guardians and between
teachers and their pupils/students is encouraged and supported. Schools
should provide manageable and accessible opportunities for all pupils/ students
to regularly share samples of their work with the teacher(s) throughout each
week. Teachers should ensure that work received is corrected and relevant
feedback is provided.
Support for pupils/students with SEN: Special education teachers (SETs)
should continue to engage with the pupils/students on their caseloads and
class/subject teachers should differentiate teaching and learning in line with
their pupils’/students’ needs to minimise disruption to their learning and
progression.

Where did this come from?

It sounds official; this is good for us/dealing with our school because we have a principal who historically hasn't allowed teachers direct contact with parents. Specifically speaking on last lockdown, they weren't even allowed have contact with their own students either.

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 7:00pm

Stateofyou wrote: »

Where did this come from?

It sounds official; this is good for us/dealing with our school because we have a principal who historically hasn't allowed teachers direct contact with parents. Specifically speaking on last lockdown, they weren't even allowed have contact with their own students either.

Hopefully things will be different in those schools during this period.

downthemiddle · 08-01-2021 7:04pm

Stateofyou wrote: »

Where did this come from?

Communication from the DES to schools this evening.

Stateofyou · 08-01-2021 7:09pm

downthemiddle wrote: »

Communication from the DES to schools this evening.

Jesus, that's laughable though isn't it? All these months to plan, remote learning begins Monday, and they send the guidelines only this evening? I suppose it's not much really though, in that it's very vague. Most of you must have permanent high blood pressure.

Inviere · 08-01-2021 7:11pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Talking to a colleague of mine who tested positive over Christmas. When they were asked with regards to their movement and where they had been over the two probable days when they become infected, the public health person talking to them said that it was more 90% likely that they picked it up in school on the 21st/22nd but because there was a slight doubt that they'd put it down as community transmission.

I've heard of several first hand examples of this exact thing from various different school staff. It very much appears to be an underhanded attempt to massage statistics. I've also heard directly that a student tested positive on a particular Wednesday, and the school was not officially informed until the following Tuesday by the HSE (the parent did inform the school the day the positive diagnosis was official, but there was NO guidance from the Dept. about what to do in this case, so the staff had to remain in place unaware that they were exposed, and unaware that they were potential carriers), that the staff had to go home/be tested/isolate. That's one specific example of absolute failure from the Department of Ed. & the HSE.

So the mantra that schools are safe, is very much built on flaky grounds, & that assessment was NOT carried out under the stress of this new strain which appears far more infectious. I'm not aware that ANY official new risk assessments have been carried out for this particular wave/strain actually.

Murple · 08-01-2021 7:15pm

downthemiddle wrote: »

The Department is conscious that closing schools has hugely adverse consequences
at individual, family and societal level. For children, it impacts on wellbeing, learning,
on social and emotional development.
School closure has significant impacts on children with special educational needs.
School closure also heightens student anxiety, particularly for the Leaving Certificate
cohort, in relation to state examinations.
It is important to note that NPHET remains of the view that schools are low risk
environments".

This part of the statement is a particular disgrace and only serves to heighten anxieties felt. These statements are all made as if they are facts.
It should read ‘closing schools can have adverse consequences...’ and ‘for children, it can impact...’ etc etc.
I can only comment for my own school, but the vast majority of the children came back at the end of August much the same as after any summer break. A number of teachers commented on how many seemed more confident and relaxed. Others had made improvements in terms of independence when doing their work.
I am so sick of the catastrophising of schools closing. We are in the middle of a national, if not global emergency. The way it’s worded it’s amazing children are let out of school at all.
In fact, I’m amazed that there hasn’t been a campaign to do away with all holidays and weekends as well as a complete ban on parents taking children out of school for any reason.
It seems the world will end in the next few weeks if all pupils aren’t sitting at a screen getting live schooling all day every day.
Funny at how there was never the same concern when children were taken out of school to go skiing or for a sub holiday or a bargain trip to Florida for some winter sunshine. And yet that likely affected the child more as their classmates were continuing on with school and interacting with each other each day.

khalessi · 08-01-2021 7:19pm

downthemiddle wrote: »

"There has been continuous engagement with education partners on this matter since
Monday,.

All the way since Monday wow!! They did say she rang them/zoomed them to tell them what was happening, not the same as consulting.

Patrick O Donovon this morning was covering up saying consulting would be too long a process when questioned today on Clare Byrne show.

She is caught rapid, ego trip solo run.

khalessi · 08-01-2021 7:21pm

antgal23 wrote: »

So, if schools are safe why close them?

For societal environmental factors necessary to restrict movement

or schools aren't safe

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 7:22pm

khalessi wrote: »

All the way since Monday wow!! They did say she rang them/zoomed them to tell them what was happening, not the same as consulting.

Patrick O Donovon this morning was covering up saying consulting would be too long a process when questioned today on Clare Byrne show.

She is caught rapid, ego trip solo run.

Leo also confirmed on the news at one yesterday that they hadn't consulted the "partners in education " as it would have caused delays. The clip of him saying this is still on the rte site.

khalessi · 08-01-2021 7:26pm

Inviere wrote: »

I've heard of several first hand examples of this exact thing from various different school staff. It very much appears to be an underhanded attempt to massage statistics. I've also heard directly that a student tested positive on a particular Wednesday, and the school was not officially informed until the following Tuesday by the HSE (the parent did inform the school the day the positive diagnosis was official, but there was NO guidance from the Dept. about what to do in this case, so the staff had to remain in place unaware that they were exposed, and unaware that they were potential carriers), that the staff had to go home/be tested/isolate. That's one specific example of absolute failure from the Department of Ed. & the HSE.

So the mantra that schools are safe, is very much built on flaky grounds, & that assessment was NOT carried out under the stress of this new strain which appears far more infectious. I'm not aware that ANY official new risk assessments have been carried out for this particular wave/strain actually.

There are dozens of teachers who have had this happen to them and put it up some anon on FB site. I have had 4 students with it and 3 I take and in no case was I considered a close contact because of my mask. Maddening they also said it was community catch despite 3 being in same class.. So no pods tested no isolation either but yes schools are safe and the 5th case they sent the class home and teacher but kept the SNA in depsite the fact they work closely with students in that class and others.

jayo76 · 08-01-2021 7:36pm

hesaidshesaid wrote: »

My friend is a secondary school teacher with three primary school kids who was told this morning that she can't prerecord lessons and has to do live teaching all day without childcare. So many parents are in similar situations. So please don't worry about teachers' expectations. We don't have any. Just do whatever is possible.

No principal/Board of Management can enforce that all teachers regardless of childcare situation etc must live teach all day every day according to their full timetable. Ours was pushing this too but as a staff we very gently made clear to them that we would 100% make every effort to follow our timetables but that for some staff that might not always be possible and that we also had taken on board parental and student feedback that they would prefer a mix of live teaching and assigned work, that they found a full day of live online work exhausting. Parents had informed yearheads after previous lockdown that between live classes and homework students were spending crazy amounts of their days on devices.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 08-01-2021 7:39pm

JCT inservice next week, full day

TheValeyard · 08-01-2021 7:41pm

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

JCT inservice next week, full day

That going ahead?

mirrorwall14 · 08-01-2021 7:41pm

same. Going ahead, might as well not lose a contact day when we get back

suicide_circus · 08-01-2021 7:42pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

She is throwing teachers an a profession under the bus. I'd love to know what her former colleagues in Kerry think of her now?

Kerry? You mean Romulus

Smacruairi · 08-01-2021 7:49pm

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

JCT inservice next week, full day

Saw that and ours is going ahead.I'm going to let rip at that bunch of charlatans for their lack of support, consultation, or feedback.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 08-01-2021 7:52pm

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

same. Going ahead, might as well not lose a contact day when we get back

Might be a day of screaming kids.

TTLF · 08-01-2021 8:08pm

That meeting today with the education ministers ended with the agreement to "Avoid predictive grading at all costs" AKA A traditional LC as it stands right now.

Well, there goes my 🌟mental stability🌟 for now. :pac:

I just plead for clarification, none of this traditional LC stuff right now, it's not worth it. I have orals and projects to do and no teacher guidance to do them and with todays cases, I really don't see us going back by the end of January.

Hopefully something can be sorted out, but a traditional exam isn't the right call.

khalessi · 08-01-2021 8:11pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

Kerry? You mean Romulus

Romulans wouldn't have her, they've standards

penny piper · 08-01-2021 8:11pm

TTLF wrote: »

That meeting today with the education ministers ended with the agreement to "Avoid predictive grading at all costs" AKA A traditional LC as it stands right now.

Well, there goes my 🌟mental stability🌟 for now. :pac:

I just plead for clarification, none of this traditional LC stuff right now, it's not worth it. I have orals and projects to do and no teacher guidance to do them and with todays cases, I really don't see us going back by the end of January.

Hopefully something can be sorted out, but a traditional exam isn't the right call.

The Irish Times has just reported that the South African varient is here at Ireland.....3 cases at the moment ....Idk how schools can go back 31st January...
They need to come up with an alternative to the LC asap..

History Queen · 08-01-2021 8:14pm

TTLF wrote: »

That meeting today with the education ministers ended with the agreement to "Avoid predictive grading at all costs" AKA A traditional LC as it stands right now.

Well, there goes my ðŸŒŸmental stabilityðŸŒŸ for now. :pac:

I just plead for clarification, none of this traditional LC stuff right now, it's not worth it. I have orals and projects to do and no teacher guidance to do them and with todays cases, I really don't see us going back by the end of January.

Hopefully something can be sorted out, but a traditional exam isn't the right call.

TTLF, trust your teachers. They will of course continue to give you guidance with your projects. The traditional exam (albeit with accommodations) is entirely the best call at the moment. Predicted grades do a disservice to students and would be worse this year. I empathise with your situation but you are obviously bright and articulate. Keep the head down and focus on what you can control.

(Also I'm an English and History teacher so if I can be of any practical help just ask)

Bananaleaf · 08-01-2021 8:16pm

jimmytwotimes 2013 wrote: »

JCT inservice next week, full day

Do we really need this?

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 8:16pm

TTLF wrote: »

That meeting today with the education ministers ended with the agreement to "Avoid predictive grading at all costs" AKA A traditional LC as it stands right now.

Well, there goes my ðŸŒŸmental stabilityðŸŒŸ for now. :pac:

I just plead for clarification, none of this traditional LC stuff right now, it's not worth it. I have orals and projects to do and no teacher guidance to do them and with todays cases, I really don't see us going back by the end of January.

Hopefully something can be sorted out, but a traditional exam isn't the right call.

You just got clarification. For the moment the exam goes ahead. Now you go focus on that. Do all your assignments, log on to all your classes and IF predicted grading features then at least you'll have fulfilled that side of the bargain.

History Queen · 08-01-2021 8:16pm

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Do we really need this?

Do we ever need JCT?

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 8:18pm

penny piper wrote: »

The Irish Times has just reported that the South African varient is here at Ireland.....3 cases at the moment ....Idk how schools can go back 31st January...
They need to come up with an alternative to the LC asap..

All from incoming, quarantined travellers is what a doctor friend of mine just put in our WhatsApp group. All these are being tested.

Bananaleaf · 08-01-2021 8:18pm

TTLF wrote: »

That meeting today with the education ministers ended with the agreement to "Avoid predictive grading at all costs" AKA A traditional LC as it stands right now.

Well, there goes my &#55356;&#57119;mental stability&#55356;&#57119; for now. :pac:

I just plead for clarification, none of this traditional LC stuff right now, it's not worth it. I have orals and projects to do and no teacher guidance to do them and with todays cases, I really don't see us going back by the end of January.

Hopefully something can be sorted out, but a traditional exam isn't the right call.

MFL teacher here. You should have teacher guidance for the orals, why wouldn't you? Our LC mock orals are going ahead as planned next week.

Do you study a foreign language? Which one if so?

am_zarathustra · 08-01-2021 8:19pm

TTLF wrote: »

That meeting today with the education ministers ended with the agreement to "Avoid predictive grading at all costs" AKA A traditional LC as it stands right now.

Well, there goes my 🌟mental stability🌟 for now. :pac:

I just plead for clarification, none of this traditional LC stuff right now, it's not worth it. I have orals and projects to do and no teacher guidance to do them and with todays cases, I really don't see us going back by the end of January.

Hopefully something can be sorted out, but a traditional exam isn't the right call.

Remember there will be lots more choice and the exam marking schemes will be altered. Any teacher who correct the LC will tell you marking schemes routinely go through 4/5 revisions to get the right numbers of each grade, it'll be the same this year. Dont stress too much, everyone is playing on the same field so things will be scaled in that way

Bananaleaf · 08-01-2021 8:21pm

Also, "at all costs" is no more of a given than "by hook or by crook" or "full intention" so I wouldn't even be so sure there will be a LC just yet.

TTLF · 08-01-2021 8:29pm

Bananaleaf wrote: »

MFL teacher here. You should have teacher guidance for the orals, why wouldn't you? Our LC mock orals are going ahead as planned next week.

Do you study a foreign language? Which one if so?

I think I'll be okay with my Irish orals, I'm lucky that I have my sister who can help there. My Irish teacher isn't a great teacher in my opinion but I am happy I have help

I'm way more worried about German. We have done practically 0 oral prep. I've never done a mock German oral in my life, nor have we properly prepared for it. (We looked over the Roleplays and did our projects in TY) but no revision on said topics.

We were meant to start with going over General conversation this week, but honestly my German teacher is a bit hopeless. He had strange ways to teach that don't work for me properly, so I've been trying to get grinds but obviously it's been disrupted with Covid.

Just a small rant here, but from the previous lockdown he used to just go into the zoom call for 10 minutes, explain to us "our task" and then leave the call leaving us alone. Some days we were completely lost on what we had to do. He's a bit of a hard teacher to approach as he's a bit strict and he's the type of teacher who would make the 1st years scared (as every school has 1 atleast) but his internet is a real issue, he would constantly cut out and break off the call back in March-May and it was a real mess. I tried to learn German more in that time but it didn't really help in that time.

I can't imagine trying to learn Oral stuff over zoom calls right now, especially when the class average is in the 40s. (I got below that in the Christmas test)

I know I can seek help, and I will try to get online grinds, but unfortunately this is a rough situation we've been put in since we actually haven't done much to any oral work over the last 2 years. I actually haven't seen my TY project with my own eyes in 2 years and I believe it's somewhere in his office.

I hope this answers your question.

TTLF · 08-01-2021 8:30pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

You just got clarification. For the moment the exam goes ahead. Now you go focus on that. Do all your assignments, log on to all your classes and IF predicted grading features then at least you'll have fulfilled that side of the bargain.

That's a fair enough assumption, thanks for that actually.

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 8:36pm

TTLF wrote: »

That's a fair enough assumption, thanks for that actually.

You can't control the uncontrollables.

For you the controllable is that you do your work, that you submit stuff within the timeframe allowed, that you are present on live calls.

The uncontrollables relate to the virus and how if impacts on the likes of the LC.

Covit · 08-01-2021 8:38pm

Went through all this last year in our house if it’s any advice stop listening to media it will drive u insane , especially ones that have no interest in there leaving are the worst .
It plays with ur mind it’s on , it’s off try get it out of your mind . if it’s cancelled it’s cancelled but don’t put your energy into campaigning when u can spend it studying.

mirrorwall14 · 08-01-2021 8:42pm

TTLF wrote: »

I think I'll be okay with my Irish orals, I'm lucky that I have my sister who can help there. My Irish teacher isn't a great teacher in my opinion but I am happy I have help

I'm way more worried about German. We have done practically 0 oral prep. I've never done a mock German oral in my life, nor have we properly prepared for it. (We looked over the Roleplays and did our projects in TY) but no revision on said topics.

We were meant to start with going over General conversation this week, but honestly my German teacher is a bit hopeless. He had strange ways to teach that don't work for me properly, so I've been trying to get grinds but obviously it's been disrupted with Covid.

Just a small rant here, but from the previous lockdown he used to just go into the zoom call for 10 minutes, explain to us "our task" and then leave the call leaving us alone. Some days we were completely lost on what we had to do. He's a bit of a hard teacher to approach as he's a bit strict and he's the type of teacher who would make the 1st years scared (as every school has 1 atleast) but his internet is a real issue, he would constantly cut out and break off the call back in March-May and it was a real mess. I tried to learn German more in that time but it didn't really help in that time.

I can't imagine trying to learn Oral stuff over zoom calls right now, especially when the class average is in the 40s. (I got below that in the Christmas test)

I know I can seek help, and I will try to get online grinds, but unfortunately this is a rough situation we've been put in since we actually haven't done much to any oral work over the last 2 years. I actually haven't seen my TY project with my own eyes in 2 years and I believe it's somewhere in his office.

I hope this answers your question.

Remember you have time. Based on your teachers data you currently would fail German if you are scoring under the 40s. Predicted grades is not a solution here.

I’m not a language teacher but there’s a ton of resources for you. The one that helped me most as a LC student in a time before mock orals etc was to take a list of questions, write out all my answers to them, ask my teacher to correct the German, then practise saying it over and over. And I would record them over and over until it was perfect. You need to speak aloud as much as possible. There’s no reason you can’t prepare this at home, from what I’ve seen and experienced it would be a noisy classroom with everyone speaking anyways. If you have a friend then ye pair up once ye have a question prepared and speak it to each other. You can do this on a video call with then

Forget the media coverage. You can do this

TTLF · 08-01-2021 8:47pm

Covit wrote: »

Went through all this last year in our house if it’s any advice stop listening to media it will drive u insane , especially ones that have no interest in there leaving are the worst .
It plays with ur mind it’s on , it’s off try get it out of your mind . if it’s cancelled it’s cancelled but don’t put your energy into campaigning when u can spend it studying.

I have been thinking about that. I went to that "Public Live meeting" for the LC today and it made me realize "man, I could be doing work instead of trying to stop all this." Like, it's fair to say alterations are needed but honestly looking at the ups and downs with the education decisions just makes me feel worse than if I didn't look at it. Also think it's a bit of a curse since I'm so interested by it

I need to really get back into a routine, it's messing with my head and it's awful. Hopefully our school listened to us with the surveys done last lockdown and I can get more quality than quantity education. Some classes work better studying by yourself while others you need the teacher (languages for one)

I hope I can put this stuff behind me and be able to focus, although when you're not in a school setting and unfortunately stuck in your room, that can be way harder to do.

If I have any questions I will ask, and I want to thank all the teachers on here helping me think and realize what can be done. I'll leave all the campaigning to the other 6th years and I'll try get my grades ahead.

If anyone has any ounce of an idea on how to study German efficiently please tell me because I need to get vocab into my head and wrap my head around the comprehensions because I struggle immensely at them big time. Thank you.

jrosen · 08-01-2021 8:50pm

We have had word from our secondary school and it does seem they took feedback on board.

I had a little chat with myself today to prepare for home long term. I can’t see schools going back anytime soon.

wirelessdude01 · 08-01-2021 8:51pm

jrosen wrote: »

We have had word from our secondary school and it does seem they took feedback on board.

I had a little chat with myself today to prepare for home long term. I can’t see schools going back anytime soon.

What did they say?

Mrsmum · 08-01-2021 8:56pm

TTLF wrote: »

That meeting today with the education ministers ended with the agreement to "Avoid predictive grading at all costs" AKA A traditional LC as it stands right now.

Well, there goes my 🌟mental stability🌟 for now. :pac:

I just plead for clarification, none of this traditional LC stuff right now, it's not worth it. I have orals and projects to do and no teacher guidance to do them and with todays cases, I really don't see us going back by the end of January.

Hopefully something can be sorted out, but a traditional exam isn't the right call.

TTLF, I might not have seen all your posts but the ones I have seen have been articulate, balanced and worthy of someone twice or more your age. This despite the natural anxieties you speak of. Just work hard now to the best of your ability, ask for help when you need it and trust yourself. Take time out too and ignore all the speculation. You're too near to the coalface for it not to stress you.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 08-01-2021 9:03pm

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Do we really need this?

Of course not, did we ever need it?

jrosen · 08-01-2021 9:11pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

What did they say?

Basically a commitment that each class/subject will have a minimum of one zoom per week. Even the non exam subject will have at least one face to face a week.
The timetable will be followed, so the students will have work to do and work to submit on the days the would have had those subjects as per time table.

Other lessons pre recorded and work assigned. So seems like a mix which again will help with flexibility. They touched on the what if’s of staying home longer and a desire to up the zooms at that point.

jimmytwotimes 2013 · 08-01-2021 9:15pm

jrosen wrote: »

Basically a commitment that each class/subject will have a minimum of one zoom per week. Even the non exam subject will have at least one face to face a week.
The timetable will be followed, so the students will have work to do and work to submit on the days the would have had those subjects as per time table.

Other lessons pre recorded and work assigned. So seems like a mix which again will help with flexibility. They touched on the what if’s of staying home longer and a desire to up the zooms at that point.

If zooms to be increased will there be some childcare facility for those who need it? Presume no mention of this?

downthemiddle · 08-01-2021 9:29pm

17 pages on Updated Guidance on Continuity of Schooling:
Supporting pupils at risk of educational disadvantage
For primary schools
16 pages on Updated Guidance on Continuity of Schooling:
Supporting Pupils with Special Educational Needs
For mainstream primary and special schools

Arrived at 19.08 to schools this evening.

Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) **Mod warning in OP 22/01**

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Schools closed until March/April? (part 4) Mod warning in OP 22/01