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Covid 19 Part XXXI-187,554 ROI (2,970 deaths) 100,319 NI (1,730 deaths)(24/01)Read OP

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  • #1172
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Endintheclowns wrote: »
    In the last hour alone I've heard of 2 different people in their 50's who have died of Covid both based in Dublin. One a GP who was self isolating in his bedroom and didn't make it to the morning.

    Please people all jokes aside look after yourselves as I think we are entering a very dangerous stage of the pandemic.

    Why wasn't that GP in hospital?


  • #1173
    Danzy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,067 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Why wasn't that GP in hospital?

    No idea but he may have been reasonably ok but got a blood clot, seems to happen to a lot of Covid deaths.


  • #1174
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,116 ✭✭✭prunudo


    Tpcl20 wrote: »

    It's gone very quiet in here tonight, is something happening? :D

    Can't speak for everyone, but personally decided not to check in as much the last few days and at that only check a couple of pages either side of when i was on last.
    We are where we are now, all we can do is keep doing the essentials now. Fretting over case numbers and back logs won't fix the issue. Its a bumpy couple of months ahead so don't plan on getting down on something I can't control. Things are bad for some loosing work etc but its nothing compared to what the hcw's are going to have to deal with for the next while.


  • #1175
    Probes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    CalamariFritti wrote: »
    Shame it didnt actually help them with the virus though.

    Of course it did, it just would have helped more if they had reacted earlier.


  • #1176
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,509 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    kilkenny31 wrote: »
    It's perfectly reasonable to compare to COVID to the flu. It's a similar illness that kills people in a similar way. Its unreasonable to say that covid isnt more serious then the flu because it is a lot worse.

    But I do think as bad as there is people to downplay this there is also a tendency for people who love the hype of this and make it out to be more serious then it is.

    I fall in the middle. I think it's a bad situation.. people are dying. But I also think the health service will muddle through. It will be a tough few weeks. But the number of confirmed cases will begin to fall next week and a couple of weeks later the numbers in hospital will begin to drop off. I think we will peak at around 1600 in hospital and maybe 120-140 in ICU. Deaths will he in the 30-40 range for a few days.

    Do you think Italy muddled through in march of that the UK and US are mufdling through now?
    If not, why do you think Ireland will fare any better?


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  • #1177
    GreeBo
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    FintanMcluskey wrote: »
    Does data exist for testing rate for influenza in the UK?

    Or positivity rate of influenza tests carried out?

    Have you tried restarting your Google Fintan?


  • #1178
    Thelonious Monk
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    How the f*ck did we allow 1000s to come from the UK for this massive cultural hoedown in Rathkeale?
    I'm sure they isolated for 2 weeks when they arrived though.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/td-calls-for-army-to-help-garda%C3%AD-police-rathkeale-following-incidents-in-town-1.4451846


  • #1179
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    SuperRabbit wrote: »
    Oh sweet jesus you should be perm banned for disinformation. It's intentional and it's dangerous.

    It has a higher death rate (0.8% vs 0.2%) (4% mortality of positive tests though, 0.8 includes is when you test a whole population, without symptoms)
    A higher hospitalization rate (20% vs feck all)
    And is more infectious (r0 4 (old variant) vs r0 0.8-1))

    without restrictions it's 5 times more infectious or so (new variant) but even with all these restrictions it's at least twice as infectious

    Therefore the hospitals will be more full than they usually are

    This information is everywhere

    Everywhere.

    you can't give out about misinformation and then give a 4% mortality rate for positive tests when its clearly much lower than that.


    There is only one country with a CFR of more than 4%
    https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality


  • #1180
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,279 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    Listening to Donnelly on newstalk he is just an absolute spoofer.


  • #1181
    Wesekn.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 120 ✭✭Wesekn.


    pc7 wrote: »
    Listening to Donnelly on newstalk he is just an absolute spoofer.

    What did he say


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  • #1182
    pc7
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    He just tried reading out a letter from TH regarding schools, wouldn't give a straight answer on anything, waffled about the vaccine rollout, its a spoofer


  • #1183
    Plumbthedepths
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    How the f*ck did we allow 1000s to come from the UK for this massive cultural hoedown in Rathkeale?
    I'm sure they isolated for 2 weeks when they arrived though.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/td-calls-for-army-to-help-garda%C3%AD-police-rathkeale-following-incidents-in-town-1.4451846

    Whatever about the morality of it, if they hold an Irish passport they can’t be denied entry. Also state laws and regulations don’t seem to apply perhaps it’s the ethnic status that negates legalities, who knows.


  • #1184
    prunudo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,116 ✭✭✭prunudo


    pc7 wrote: »
    He just tried reading out a letter from TH regarding schools, wouldn't give a straight answer on anything, waffled about the vaccine rollout, its a spoofer

    He probably knows what he is trying to sell in unattainable. He's not a politician for long enough to perfect his spiel.


  • #1185
    lawred2
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    pc7 wrote: »
    He just tried reading out a letter from TH regarding schools, wouldn't give a straight answer on anything, waffled about the vaccine rollout, its a spoofer

    TH?


  • #1186
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    lawred2 wrote: »
    TH?

    Tony Holohan CMO Chairman of NPHET


  • #1187
    DOCARCH
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    1022 now hospitalized and 88 in ICU (according to RTE quoting Paul Reid).


  • #1188
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,470 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    GreeBo wrote: »
    About 200 people die each year from the flu in Ireland, we are currently TEN times that from covid, but you carry on with your nonsense.

    I am not talking about flu or covid. I am aware of the mortality rates. I am talking about hospital capacity.
    I did not mention flu once in my post. Not once.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115832814&postcount=1101

    It's like some of you folks have automatic trigger responses. Hysterical ones.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #1189
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,470 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Goldengirl wrote: »
    Yes they were, but this is worse .

    NonCovid being discharged, cancelled or moved to private hospitals in the next week .
    Patients on trolleys, no, as beds will be freed up by doing this.
    Much sicker patients in hospitals , yes.
    Operating theatres, and highdependency areas on wards being converted to ad hoc ICUs in 2 weeks time estimated unless numbers miraculously fall before that .
    However more staff off sick with Covid and less trained staff available to care for ICU patients as a result without staff doing double shifts, or doctors having to leave their workload to help .
    No " data " available , (how could there be ?) except look at the figures , and believe what people are telling you .
    This is all new and happening a lot faster than March/April .

    Yes you are telling me that the hospital are 10 times worse than they were last year. I provided data from the INMO on hospital overcrowding on 7-Jan-2020. I am waiting to see how you can state that they are now 10 times worse. We are talking about hospital capacity here.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115832814&postcount=1101

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #1190
    lawred2
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    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Tony Holohan CMO Chairman of NPHET

    ah yeah - of course


  • #1191
    Probes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭Probes


    Regarding hospital capacity, I'm not sure if it's the same in Ireland but the NHS specifically discourage comparisons with previous years as hospitals have had to be rearranged for the pandemic response. The result is that the current numbers can mislead in terms of looking understressed when in reality they may be at the tipping point.


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  • #1192
    caveat emptor
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    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    Yes you are telling me that the hospital are 10 times worse than they were last year. I provided data from the INMO on hospital overcrowding on 7-Jan-2020. I am waiting to see how you can state that they are now 10 times worse. We are talking about hospital capacity here.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115832814&postcount=1101


    So it's grand so. Do you prefer the scandemic or pandemic as a term? Thanks for enlightening us. You should really get down to the hospital and tell them they are overreacting. I think you are an irreconcilable. i.e part of the problem peddling this crap.

    https://twitter.com/JcM4343/status/1346195457614209025?s=20


  • #1193
    titan18
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    1022 now hospitalized and 88 in ICU (according to RTE quoting Paul Reid).

    4 figures now is pretty bad. Probably get to 3 figures in ICU soon enough too. Hopefully vaccine rollouts continues to gather pace.


  • #1194
    Cluedo Monopoly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,470 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    So it's grand so. Do you prefer the scandemic or pandemic as a term? Thanks for enlightening us. You should really get down to the hospital and tell them they are overreacting. I think you are an irreconcilable. i.e part of the problem peddling this crap.

    https://twitter.com/JcM4343/status/1346195457614209025?s=20

    Yeah that's what I said...'its grand so and the hospitals are overreacting.'
    My very words.

    Your only data points seem to be hysteria. Hard to compare and do trend analysis when it's always the worst it can be. Goldengirl says we are already at '10 times worse'.

    Good luck ;)

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115832814&postcount=1101

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • #1195
    wadacrack
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    1022 now hospitalized and 88 in ICU (according to RTE quoting Paul Reid).

    18 admissions to ICU, 106 hospital. Huge numbers and will be worse in two weeks.


  • #1196
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Flights resuming to the UK is insanity too. Tragedy unfolding.


  • #1197
    CIARAN_BOYLE
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    DOCARCH wrote: »
    1022 now hospitalized and 88 in ICU (according to RTE quoting Paul Reid).

    I think 88 is last nights icu while 1022 is this mornings. The morning icu update is usually upto 11am or so.


  • #1198
    Thelonious Monk
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    what kind of ICU numbers are we able to manage?


  • #1199
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    What does this mean in relation to allowed construction? FB & intel?

    certain large construction projects in the exporting / FDI sector based on set criteria


  • #1200
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    what kind of ICU numbers are we able to manage?

    30 is more or less the trigger point where elements of non covid care get cancelled

    280ish is capacity (includes non covid)
    350 is surge capacity (closed operating theaters become additional icu rooms)
    100 more in private hospitals. I believe we can access 25% of that under the latest deal.


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  • #1201
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,509 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »
    I am not talking about flu or covid. I am aware of the mortality rates. I am talking about hospital capacity.
    I did not mention flu once in my post. Not once.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=115832814&postcount=1101

    It's like some of you folks have automatic trigger responses. Hysterical ones.

    So the cause of the over crowding in your two links was what then?


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