ISME getting in bed with the far right

wextipp · 05-01-2021 5:23pm #1

I see on Facebook ISME , GRIPT and the Edmund Burke Institute have linked up to do a Covid video together. Seems very odd. Good for GRIPT I suppose as it gets them out to the 10k+ ISME membership. I wouldn't have thought all that 10k+ membership would be happy though. :eek:
What's next, ISME features in theliberal.ie

Mad_maxx · 05-01-2021 5:31pm

wextipp wrote: »

I see on Facebook ISME , GRIPT and the Edmund Burke Institute have linked up to do a Covid video together. Seems very odd. Good for GRIPT I suppose as it gets them out to the 10k+ ISME membership. I wouldn't have thought all that 10k+ membership would be happy though. :eek:
What's next, ISME features in theliberal.ie

im confused , what has the thread title got to do with any of that ?

Padre_Pio · 05-01-2021 5:32pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

im confused , what has the thread title got to do with any of that ?

Dunno, but the comments under the video are fairly extreme.

EDIT: Seems Gript are a right leaning Youtube channel. 3 videos from John Waters. Looks like they promote themselves as a "news" channel, but it looks more like they just find some random right wingers, set up a mock studio and shoot a video.

Kivaro · 05-01-2021 5:32pm

Jaysus, the far right are everywhere now in Ireland.
Quick, check under the bed :pac:

Mad_maxx · 05-01-2021 5:38pm

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Dunno, but the comments under the video are fairly extreme.

EDIT: Seems Gript are a right leaning Youtube channel. 3 videos from John Waters

i regularly read articles on Gript ( its not a youtube channel btw ) , nothing " far right " whatsoever about it , its funded by Declan Ganley and offers opinion with a conservative slant certainly

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-01-2021 5:46pm

Business people are right wing:eek:

wextipp · 05-01-2021 5:49pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

im confused , what has the thread title got to do with any of that ?

GRIPT is a right wing web-site with extreme views and ISME is a representative body for small business. God only know what the Edmund Burke Institute. They say they are in to education but very little info on them.

JMNolan · 05-01-2021 5:50pm

https://gript.ie/rowan-atkinson-blasts-social-media-medieval-mob/

Extreme? Really?

wextipp · 05-01-2021 5:52pm

JMNolan wrote: »

https://gript.ie/rowan-atkinson-blasts-social-media-medieval-mob/

Extreme? Really?

SHAME VIDEO

SEPT 23 1989 · 05-01-2021 5:52pm

wextipp wrote: »

GRIPT is a right wing web-site with extreme views and ISME is a representative body for small business. God only know what the Edmund Burke Institute. They say they are in to education but very little info on them.

sounds like a finishing school for racists

keano_afc · 05-01-2021 5:52pm

wextipp wrote: »

GRIPT is a right wing web-site with extreme views and ISME is a representative body for small business. God only know what the Edmund Burke Institute. They say they are in to education but very little info on them.

Are "extreme views" just views you dont agree with?

JMNolan · 05-01-2021 5:54pm

wextipp wrote: »

SHAME VIDEO

I don't quite understand what smoking gun you think have here? Extreme right wing is not someone with conservative views and it does no-one any favours by presenting it as such.

John Hutton · 05-01-2021 5:55pm

"They don't agree with me" = extreme for some people. Just shows how much some live in bubbles.

Gript is a conservative media publication, they are not extreme, or the far right.

They might be a crap publication who you don't like (although I think they have showed considerable journalistic courage in recent times, particularly around trans issues) but that doesn't mean they are extremest or far right.

wextipp · 05-01-2021 5:56pm

keano_afc wrote: »

Are "extreme views" just views you dont agree with?

Everyone entitled to their views but why are ISME linking up with them. Seems like GRIPT will get more out of this.

circadian · 05-01-2021 5:56pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

i regularly read articles on Gript ( its not a youtube channel btw ) , nothing " far right " whatsoever about it , its funded by Declan Ganley and offers opinion with a conservative slant certainly

I'd be wary of anything that Declan Ganley is funding.

statesaver · 05-01-2021 5:56pm

I enjoy the TRSI podcast on Gript.

keano_afc · 05-01-2021 5:59pm

wextipp wrote: »

Everyone entitled to their views but why are ISME linking up with them. Seems like GRIPT will get more out of this.

Why dont you get in touch and ask them?

JMNolan · 05-01-2021 6:01pm

circadian wrote: »

I'd be wary of anything that Declan Ganley is funding.

Nothing wrong at all with being wary of any news organisation, they all have their own slants.

Danzy · 05-01-2021 6:05pm

Capitalist running dogs in Isme.

Paul Murphy and his far right political vehicle RISE will surely be linked.

05-01-2021 6:12pm

we should ban everything except readings of the communist manifesto, excerpts from Martin Luther King's speech that time the one with the judging people by the character not skin, and some thoughts for the day from a BIPOC trans activist, and whatever WexTipp thinks is correct thought.

EDIT:

The Martin luther speech is now racist, as not seeing skin colour is racist. I apologise and hope that WexTipp and the League Of Correct Thought will forgive me, and I can skip the gulag this year.

biko · 05-01-2021 6:12pm

keano_afc wrote: »

Are "extreme views" just views you dont agree with?

I'm so left that even the centre is far right from my viewpoint.

Danzy · 05-01-2021 6:22pm

biko wrote: »

I'm so left that even the centre is far right from my viewpoint.

One of the few old School Socialists that I have seen post on this site.

JasonStatham · 05-01-2021 6:29pm

Ireland's fairly right wing. I don't know why anyone could be surprised about it.

JPCN1 · 05-01-2021 6:37pm

I see the readers of this far right threat to society and indeed civilisation have voted Peadar Tobin (60%) as their favourite party leader... Aontu being a party of the left.

Danzy · 05-01-2021 7:03pm

JPCN1 wrote: »

I see the readers of this far right threat to society and indeed civilisation have voted Peadar Tobin (60%) as their favourite party leader... Aontu being a party of the left.

Yet I have seen Aontú called fascist and far right by many on the Left.

Obviously they are a left wing party.

If you aren't Che Guevara these days you are far right and even that would not be enough.

Gatling · 05-01-2021 7:08pm

Basically if you discuss immigration ,trans ideology , Gangs based off London and LA street gangs your far right

Gentlemanne · 05-01-2021 7:09pm

It's funny that everyone on here acts in unison, absolutely incredulous that Gript has been called extreme right.

It's literally just an irish version of Breitbart. There's a reason there's no paywall or advertisements, it's funded by pro-life groups and grifters like John McGuirk. It's not a business nor a proper journalistic enterprise but an easy to digest and share source of right wing propaganda.

Gatling · 05-01-2021 7:11pm

Gentlemanne wrote: »

It's funny that everyone on here acts in unison, absolutely incredulous that Gript has been called extreme right.

But yet they post stories mainstream media have been utterly silent on

Mad_maxx · 05-01-2021 7:24pm

wextipp wrote: »

GRIPT is a right wing web-site with extreme views and ISME is a representative body for small business. God only know what the Edmund Burke Institute. They say they are in to education but very little info on them.

" extreme views "

such as ?

Mad_maxx · 05-01-2021 7:27pm

statesaver wrote: »

I enjoy the TRSI podcast on Gript.

its excellent , kavanagh and Dwyer are very drol but quite insightful

Mad_maxx · 05-01-2021 7:28pm

JasonStatham wrote: »

Ireland's fairly right wing. I don't know why anyone could be surprised about it.

too funny

Diceicle · 05-01-2021 7:34pm

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Dunno, but the comments under the video are fairly extreme.

EDIT: Seems Gript are a right leaning Youtube channel. 3 videos from John Waters. Looks like they promote themselves as a "news" channel, but it looks more like they just find some random right wingers, set up a mock studio and shoot a video.

As has been pointed out, they're more than a YouTube channel. They're not Far-right, more centre-right I'd say.
They have Podcasts on a couple of topics but I give credit to their The Right Side podcast - 2 recent excellent podcasts, one on the trans-kids case in the UK, and the Travistock Centres part in it. And one on the forthcoming Hate Crime bill. Both presenting the facts and a far better analysis than anything I heard on other shows.

Dante7 · 05-01-2021 7:39pm

Do you even know what the far-right is?

uptherebels · 05-01-2021 7:39pm

Diceicle wrote: »

As has been pointed out, they're more than a YouTube channel. They're not Far-right, more centre-right I'd say.
They have Podcasts on a couple of topics but I give credit to their The Right Side podcast - 2 recent excellent podcasts, one on the trans-kids case in the UK, and the Travistock Centres part in it. And one on the forthcoming Hate Crime bill. Both presenting the facts and a far better analysis than anything I heard on other shows.

And what "facts" did they present?

wextipp · 05-01-2021 7:39pm

JPCN1 wrote: »

I see the readers of this far right threat to society and indeed civilisation have voted Peadar Tobin (60%) as their favourite party leader... Aontu being a party of the left.

Yes, Feader Peadar bases his social policies on the Catholic church teaching. There is a surprise he got 60% on there

wextipp · 05-01-2021 7:41pm

keano_afc wrote: »

Why dont you get in touch and ask them?

I did and I'm not a member so didn't entertain me

mcmoustache · 05-01-2021 7:57pm

I've always thought Ganley had a whiff of pickles and vodka about him. Seemed to only pop up whenever there was an opportunity to throw spanners at the EU and now I hear that he's funding a Breitbart type publication? I presume it has a heavy focus on immigrant and tinker crime and Sweden?

I'll have to look that lot up but I wouldn't be in the least surprised if there were rubles behind it or if Ganley had business dealings over there.

JMNolan · 05-01-2021 7:57pm

Gentlemanne wrote: »

It's funny that everyone on here acts in unison, absolutely incredulous that Gript has been called extreme right.

It's literally just an irish version of Breitbart. There's a reason there's no paywall or advertisements, it's funded by pro-life groups and grifters like John McGuirk. It's not a business nor a proper journalistic enterprise but an easy to digest and share source of right wing propaganda.

Breitbart? Cop on ffs

mcmoustache · 05-01-2021 8:02pm

Dante7 wrote: »

Do you even know what the far-right is?

Regular right wing folk are usually concerned with fiscal and social conservatism.

Far right folk tend to be less concerned with fiscal policy, instead focusing their intellectual energy on the usual populist tropes of immigration and liberals.

Hellokitty1212 · 05-01-2021 8:02pm

Did I just read correctly - there are people who think Dr King’s speech was racist ???

Madness!!

biko · 05-01-2021 8:13pm

I find a that far this or that usually have a problem with Jews so that's often an easy way to find extremists.

wextipp · 05-01-2021 8:13pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

i regularly read articles on Gript ( its not a youtube channel btw ) , nothing " far right " whatsoever about it , its funded by Declan Ganley and offers opinion with a conservative slant certainly

The Burkean Journal is funded by Ganley which has cross-over to The Edmund Burke institute. So Ganley well in there.

doublejobbing 2 · 05-01-2021 8:16pm

wextipp wrote: »

GRIPT is a right wing web-site with extreme views .

As I understand it, the following is now regarded as basically Nazism.

- using senior infants level mathematics to deduce that a primary driver in our rental crisis is allowing migrants, including EU ones, into our already congested private rental market without some sort of quota system in place

- thinking non nationals do not deserve neither a preferential nor an equal access to social and affordable housing

- thinking the Gardai were justified in shooting a man who attempted to stab them from close range.

- not believing the man was carrying a butter knife for the last 7 days, or thinking it was in anyway relevant (as such a knife could blind a guard if aimed right)

- thinking if you don't like or respect the natives of this country, and/ or think they owe you something, you could always **** off to live somewhere else

- looking at rates of rape in Sweden and Germany and thinking there are pro active steps that can be taken to avoid same here

- looking at rates of ISIS lone wolf attacks Europe wide and coming to same conclusion

John Doe1 · 05-01-2021 8:19pm

Do you remember the good old days when the left were the ones who stood for common sense?

I would have regarded myself as on the left until very recently but apparently any view which is outside the Wokist cult dogma puts you in the "Far Right" these days. These people are not on the left at all but simply extremists who are actually against classic liberal values

Id say these Wokists brains would explode if they were in an actual "Far Right" society like Saudi Arabia"

Danzy · 05-01-2021 8:20pm

biko wrote: »

I find a that far this or that usually have a problem with Jews so that's often an easy way to find extremists.

Always amazing how often those who talk about fighting the far right and monitoring them can be seen in other threads talking in barely concealed anti semitism.

Stihl waters · 05-01-2021 8:20pm

Padre_Pio wrote: »

Dunno, but the comments under the video are fairly extreme.

EDIT: Seems Gript are a right leaning Youtube channel. 3 videos from John Waters. Looks like they promote themselves as a "news" channel, but it looks more like they just find some random right wingers, set up a mock studio and shoot a video.

Theres 10 comments under the video, none extreme imo, you must be afraid of your fcukin shadow on a sunny day, thankfully people as delicate as yourself dont leave the house much

Dyr · 05-01-2021 8:20pm

keano_afc wrote: »

Are "extreme views" just views you dont agree with?

Far worse, they're views that Twitter and Youtube don't agree with. :eek:

wextipp · 05-01-2021 8:22pm

But why is ISME getting them to make videos ?
Why do the CEO and chairman of ISME have articles on GRIPT

StupidLikeAFox · 05-01-2021 8:25pm

They are certainly a right wing, non mainstream publication anyway, and you can argue the toss around just how right wing they are - but either way it's strange that ISME would align themselves with them. Don't know much about them but surely they should be staying non political?

05-01-2021 8:27pm

biko wrote: »

I find a that far this or that usually have a problem with Jews so that's often an easy way to find extremists.

Like Corbyn et al. on the left? I suppose so.

Tell me how · 05-01-2021 8:27pm

keano_afc wrote: »

Are "extreme views" just views you dont agree with?

Are 'Woke views' just ones you don't agree with?

ISME getting in bed with the far right

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