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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #5402
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Stheno wrote: »
    Its coming from the HSE who say vaccinations in a home with an outbreak will be deferred until at least four weeks after the home has symptoms

    There are currently 53 outbreaks in nursing homes

    I should add that if an outbreak is only two cases and it is being managed properly then perhaps vaccinations may still go ahead. These are the most at risk and all efforts should be made to vaccinate ASAP.


  • #5403
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    blade1 wrote: »
    Apologies if it wasn't but was it you that told me a couple of weeks ago to find another hospital if I need one but it's full of covid patients?
    Can you post the quote, it’s very easy to give a different context to what someone said without actually quoteing them. It’s a tactic I see used here for point scoring.


  • #5404
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    Do you just argue and post for the sake of it? Offering a fellow human a bit of advice. He'll get the same advice from a pharmacist.

    You're the biggest gobshi*e on boards by a distance. You're wives getting caught out on the lie. When confronted crying like a sissy about personal abuse.

    Do you do anything worthwhile, exercise, work? You're pathetic.

    Henry VIII :D

    It tells me plenty that your defence is personal attack. So you’re not qualified to give medical advice . Good to know. Reported btw.


  • #5405
    chicorytip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭chicorytip


    Eod100 wrote: »
    I think it was Paul Reid. Not exactly a specific or fixed definition for what rampant means in terms of virus. Why would you oppose it being used out of curiosity?
    It just seems an inappropriate word to use, unnecessarily alarmist. Yes, infection rates are at their highest but this is not some monstrous black plague stalking the entire landscape. We now have what appears to be an effective vaccine and people now have a far greater awareness of the need to behave appropriately than was the case during the first lockdown. I envisage a quite rapid improvement in the situation and a return to a semblance of normality well before the end of January.


  • #5406
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It tells me plenty that your defence is personal attack. So you’re not qualified to give medical advice . Good to know.




    Perma Banned


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  • #5407
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    Do you just argue and post for the sake of it? Offering a fellow human a bit of advice. He'll get the same advice from a pharmacist.

    You're the biggest gobshi*e on boards by a distance. You're wives getting caught out on the lie. When confronted crying like a sissy about personal abuse.

    Do you do anything worthwhile, exercise, work? You're pathetic.

    Henry VIII :D

    Way other abuse of a poster there, no need for it.


  • #5408
    Blanco100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    brookers wrote: »
    Remember when he tried to be super kind and said if he was a young student he would love to go on the town too and not to blame the young for being young, meanwhile the week before he was asking us all to stay at home....

    Pure spoofer. Wouldn't say he ever went out on the town as a student either, more than likely stayed at home with his JFK colouring book.


  • #5409
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    Oh go fcuk yourself you useless fcuk. On here taking sh*te 24/7.

    You are a useless bollix with notions.

    I’ll just say goodbye to you now, I doubt the opportunity will present later.


  • #5410
    TomSweeney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Haven't been here in a while, I visit today ....

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  • #5411
    William Faithful Deer
    Posts: 0 ✭ William Faithful Deer


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    So any suggestions how you will make young people who for the most part are fit and healthy live like hermits?
    Although just as an aside the first baby born of the new year was to a young mum who looked happy and healthy also positive for Covid 19 on RTE yesterday.Despite everything said here as far as young people are concerned the virus is of little consequence to them.

    People don't have to live like hermits. Just have to keep a small circle of contacts when restrictions are lifted. Instead of swanning off and meeting 15 different people from a multitude of different households over various nights. That's why we are back where we are. People were more wreckless through December and over the holidays than they should have been.

    If you want a sustained semblence of normality, sacrifices have to be made.


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  • #5412
    What Username Guidelines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭What Username Guidelines


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    3 weeks ago I replied to A Citizen Erased on Irish vaccination. I was pointing out that things invariably go wrong. Likewise I was told this was just like the distribution of the annual flu injection. It was roll out here, roll out there, all the jargon.

    I mentioned if Covid took off over Christmas our resources would be stretched. A Citizen Erased told me his dad was working in the sector and all plans were fool proof and ready to go.

    I don't know whether people know in their hearts plans often don't succeed but can't cope with the outcome. They need constant positive reaffirmation.

    Vaccines will be distributed but it's hard to put a timeline on it given what's to come in the immediate future.

    This forum is very useful for sharing information but I’d take everything with a generous pinch of salt.

    I mentioned a few weeks back that it seemed the vaccine task force were meeting for the first time and it seemed very late to me, only to be ridiculed for the whole “Irish self-loathing” attitude and it’s all gonna be graaaand.

    By a poster with thousands of posts, who has been knocking around this site for years and this forum for a long time, spitting out incorrect info whilst sounding like an expert.

    :rolleyes:


  • #5413
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    56 in ICU

    Stay at home folks.


  • #5414
    iguana
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,917 ✭✭✭✭iguana


    mandrake04 wrote: »
    Had Sushi train at a spot in China town.

    I have to say that photo of the conveyor belt of sushi made me extremely uncomfortable. I would have regularly eaten from those before the apocalypse or from a buffet. But I feel like my insides have clenched up just looking at your picture.


  • #5415
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    lawred2 wrote: »
    Was the matron faithfully reported or was she just talking shoite?

    Or is this consultant the one talking shoite?

    That's the problem with twitter

    Hard to know but consultant views retweeted by Devi - also some other paed consultants chiming in on twitter in agreement that they are not overrun


  • #5416
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    56 in ICU

    Stay at home folks.

    56? As in, 6 more in the last few hours?


  • #5417
    mandrake04
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,435 ✭✭✭mandrake04


    iguana wrote: »
    I have to say that photo of the conveyor belt of sushi made me extremely uncomfortable. I would have regularly eaten from those before the apocalypse or from a buffet. But I feel like my insides have clenched up just looking at your picture.

    Really what has changed?


  • #5418
    Crocodile Booze
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Crocodile Booze


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    56? As in, 6 more in the last few hours?

    According to this it's 56. Not sure the exact details of the extra 6?

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/


  • #5419
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    So, what are the main downsides from not being able to produce the real case figures? If its 4k a day rather than 2k how does this help us?

    Are hospitalisation figures not more important?

    Someone mentioned that a doctor said cases are likely 10 times higher? If we are running at that level with an exponential virus does half the country not have it at this stage!


  • #5420
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    iguana wrote: »
    I have to say that photo of the conveyor belt of sushi made me extremely uncomfortable. I would have regularly eaten from those before the apocalypse or from a buffet. But I feel like my insides have clenched up just looking at your picture.

    Same. And not just the sushi bar photo to be honest, all of them.

    Not saying this is particularly healthy, in fact I know it isn't, but unfortunately for me it will be a long long time before I am comfortable going into settings such as the ones pictured in that post. I have noticed myself getting very nervous if people get too close to me in shopping centres. It's awful really, would never have been like that before


  • #5421
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Yes all well and good and nice on the emotive side.....
    So how do you convince a section of society to live like hermits when the virus is of little harm to them?
    Remind them that those at risk are the ones who pay for everything?


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  • #5422
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    Crocodile Booze wrote: »
    According to this it's 56. Not sure the exact details of the extra 6?

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/

    Okay, thank you. RTE are reporting 50


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0102/1187293-coronavirus-ireland/


  • #5423
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    antodeco wrote: »
    It will only mutate to survive. As long it's able to spread etc, it will be happy to stay as it is. You're better off letting it spread (with low symptoms) to delay it's mutation as long as possible. When vaccines, more cases come along, that's when there's a likelihood of mutation. Let's just hope it's so busy spreading it doesn't realise we are creeping up behind it with a vaccine!

    That's not how it works, they don't mutate to survive, they mutate and happen to survive better, it's not a choice "they" are making!


  • #5424
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Bananaleaf wrote: »
    Okay, thank you. RTE are reporting 50


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0102/1187293-coronavirus-ireland/

    50 was yesterday evening's number. Its released twice a day


  • #5425
    growleaves
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,978 ✭✭✭growleaves


    GreeBo wrote: »
    Remind them that those at risk are the ones who pay for everything?

    They must have whopper pensions if they can afford to stay retired and also pay for everything.


  • #5426
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    So, what are the main downsides from not being able to produce the real case figures? If its 4k a day rather than 2k how does this help us?

    Are hospitalisation figures not more important?

    Someone mentioned that a doctor said cases are likely 10 times higher? If we are running at that level with an exponential virus does half the country not have it at this stage!

    I personally think if official figures aren't being reported in our daily cases, our record of infection, age groups affected, percentages hospitalised, deaths, will all be skewed in the official data. Not to mention we'll get all sorts of assumptions from various Professionals working in Health on their estimates of cases in the community, I read somewhere yesterday there could be 1 in every 2 cases being missed and rising. But not sure where that data was coming from.


  • #5427
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Prof Nolan Rte radio

    Cases will peak at between 3-6000 a day.


  • #5428
    bazermc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    I wonder will they drip feed the 9000 back log or do it one go.


  • #5429
    GreeBo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Posters on here will still defend them to the hilt, they had 10 months to increase hospital capacity, no its the publics fault, delay in vaccine rollout, sure what's a few days, **** IT system which was at the limit several times during the last 10 months, it's the publics fault that the IT system can't cope.

    Then posters wonder why we have **** all confidence in this inept organisation rolling out a vaccine.


    Ok then, by how much should they have increased hospital capacity? What percent increase would not be inept?

    Bonus question, how much public spend on unused capacity would be inept?


  • #5430
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,599 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    I personally think if official figures aren't being reported in our daily cases, our record of infection, age groups affected, percentages hospitalised, deaths, will all be skewed in the official data. Not to mention we'll get all sorts of assumptions from various Professionals working in Health on their estimates of cases in the community, I read somewhere yesterday there could be 1 in every 2 cases being missed and rising. But not sure where that data was coming from.

    There's a who document with estimates for missed cases based on positivity rate of tests. It's not designed for covid but was common for a number of different infections.

    Very broad estimate at best.


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  • #5431
    ninebeanrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Prof Nolan Rte radio

    Cases will peak at between 3-6000 a day.

    Optimistic considering there were 5500+ positive swabs yesterday.

    If we get swabs below 5000 today with similar testing numbers almost be a success, but we might not get swabs as a Saturday


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