Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

lawred2 · 30-12-2020 09:37PM

ginoginelli wrote: »

I have been following jim throughout this pandemic. He's got literally nothing right. I wouldnt trust him to run a bath let alone anything in goverment.

Ol Jim isn't ever right about anything. Not much more than a voice for developers.

LessOutragePlz · 30-12-2020 09:39PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

Yes I do believe it. I don't believe the whole Trump like anti China narrative. Have you any proof they are lying?

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-likely-had-10-times-more-covid-cases-china-says-2020-12

And that's the number that their choosing to tell us the real numbers are higher than that and if you believe the CCP then there's no point in engaging with you any further.

Itssoeasy · 30-12-2020 09:41PM

Oh I sure I’m not the only one but I can really do without politicians tweeting messages of apparent understanding. I’ve seen a few from across a few parties and they need to read the room ffs. It’d be more in their line to do what they should have done in March and April and may.

podgeandrodge · 30-12-2020 09:42PM

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

My housemate told me earlier today he's having 2 mates over to the house tomorrow for nye. When I mentioned to him about the new rules (oh sorry, *guidelines*), he said "well we have it planned already and there are new guidelines every day..."

Meanwhile my fiance and I decided it best to cancel the quiet few drinks and a movie we had planned at his place (he lives with his parents) to ring in our first new year since we got engaged.

Grand scheme of things it's just a night, but still, fcuk Covid.:mad::(

Could you not ring it in in your place with him? That would be reasonable (except maybe to a few on here

)

Scoondal · 30-12-2020 09:44PM

lawred2 wrote: »

I've no doubt.

But I'm not sure why the weather was referenced. A coat will do grand for the cold.

Not much use against the virus though.

They're not breaking the law, so let them at it.

Plumbthedepths · 30-12-2020 09:46PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

Yes I do believe it. I don't believe the whole Trump like anti China narrative. Have you any proof they are lying?

They are liars, though. They promised after the bird flu outbreak wet markets would be closed. Where do you think this pandemic started.

Golfwidow · 30-12-2020 09:46PM

Stheno wrote: »

The main symptoms are different, temperature, cough, difficulty breathing, loss of taste or smell

Not sure a runny nose would get you a test now if you don't have one of the others

Be careful! 4 out of 6 hère tested positive - 2 had runny noses, 1 had minor sniffles , one had a very bad sore throat. None had temperature or cough!! I think it’s a huge problem that many of us can be fooled with, “it’s a cold; it couldn’t be Covid”!

ElJeffe · 30-12-2020 09:47PM

LessOutragePlz wrote: »

https://www.businessinsider.com/wuhan-likely-had-10-times-more-covid-cases-china-says-2020-12

And that's the number that their choosing to tell us the real numbers are higher than that and if you believe the CCP then there's no point in engaging with you any further.

So no proof just hearsay. Thanks for clearing that up.

igCorcaigh · 30-12-2020 09:48PM

darem93 wrote: »

My friend got a notification from the app to say she was a close contact. She rang up to get a test and really struggled to get anywhere. So she rang back and lied about having symptoms, finally got the test and it came back positive!

Why is it so hard to actually get a test in the South? All my friends in the North just book it online no questions asked and they have it the next day. Whereas it seems to be so complicated here in the South just to secure one. Like I understand capacity issues but this was even the case back in August when I tried to get a test last time.

Strange. Please report your experience to the right people. It should be known.

caveat emptor · 30-12-2020 09:48PM

I know we talk a lot about statistics on here a lot. The problem with really big numbers is there are some seriously horrific outcomes for some people. AKA statistics.

https://twitter.com/LouiseCrowley2/status/1344346891908165633?s=20

Busi_Girl08 · 30-12-2020 09:49PM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Could you not ring it in in your place with him? That would be reasonable (except maybe to a few on here )

Not with 2+ households mixing in the house (one of the other lads will probably be bringing his girlfriend over too), just not worth the risk

xhomelezz · 30-12-2020 09:49PM

lawred2 wrote: »

Are you asking me that?

Think so, since I quoted your post.

igCorcaigh · 30-12-2020 09:50PM

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

My housemate told me earlier today he's having 2 mates over to the house tomorrow for nye. When I mentioned to him about the new rules (oh sorry, *guidelines*), he said "well we have it planned already and there are new guidelines every day..."

Meanwhile my fiance and I decided it best to cancel the quiet few drinks and a movie we had planned at his place (he lives with his parents) to ring in our first new year since we got engaged.

Grand scheme of things it's just a night, but still, fcuk Covid.:mad::(

Fcuk it indeed.
Stay safe and strong

ElJeffe · 30-12-2020 09:51PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

They are liars, though. They promised after the bird flu outbreak wet markets would be closed. Where do you think this pandemic started.

Just calling people liars isn't an argument. With the measures they took its highly probable they stopped uncontrollable spread as many Western nations have failed to do.

Stheno · 30-12-2020 09:56PM

Golfwidow wrote: »

Be careful! 4 out of 6 hère tested positive - 2 had runny noses, 1 had minor sniffles , one had a very bad sore throat. None had temperature or cough!! I think it’s a huge problem that many of us can be fooled with, “it’s a cold; it couldn’t be Covid”!

Perhaps the advice on symptoms should be updated?

Even a senior medic here came out and said children with runny nose is not an issue back in August

The HSE site lists runny nose as a sometimes symptom too

The president of the Irish College of General Practitioners (ICGP), Dr Mary Favier has said that parents need to seek out reliable information and avoid rumours and guess work when their children return to school.

Sniffles and runny noses are common place during the winter and are not a cause for concern Dr Favier told RTÉ radio’s Morning Ireland.

However, if children have a cough or a temperature they should be kept at home and if their symptoms persist for 48 hours their GP should be consulted.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40037420.html%3ftype=amp

Gruffalux · 30-12-2020 09:56PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

I know we talk a lot about statistics on here a lot. The problem with really big numbers is there are some seriously horrific outcomes for some people. AKA statistics.

https://twitter.com/LouiseCrowley2/status/1344346891908165633?s=20

I looked her up. Was expecting an older person. She is quite young.

Busi_Girl08 · 30-12-2020 09:57PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Fcuk it indeed.
Stay safe and strong

Thanks. Covid really makes housesharing even more unbearable and I didn't even think that were possible.

Fingers crossed for a mortgage approval and new house for the hubby to be soon*!

*in relative covid terms.

tom1ie · 30-12-2020 09:57PM

Scoondal wrote: »

They're not breaking the law, so let them at it.

And if they catch and spread covid which leads to further spreading and hospital admissions which leads to no beds for a genuine heart attack or car crash victim, are you ok with that?
Still leave them at it?

KrustyUCC · 30-12-2020 09:58PM

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

My housemate told me earlier today he's having 2 mates over to the house tomorrow for nye. When I mentioned to him about the new rules (oh sorry, *guidelines*), he said "well we have it planned already and there are new guidelines every day..."

Meanwhile my fiance and I decided it best to cancel the quiet few drinks and a movie we had planned at his place (he lives with his parents) to ring in our first new year since we got engaged.

Grand scheme of things it's just a night, but still, fcuk Covid.:mad::(

Are his parents in a vulnerable group?

Such a shame as you can't get back your first new years engaged

Fcuk covid is right

caveat emptor · 30-12-2020 09:59PM

This has aged well......
What's the strategy now.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1313231967400402946?s=20

lawred2 · 30-12-2020 09:59PM

xhomelezz wrote: »

Think so, since I quoted your post.

I've no idea why you're asking me that

Happydays2020 · 30-12-2020 10:01PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

This has aged well......
What's the strategy now.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1313231967400402946?s=20

He was not wrong. Process is critical.

DeanAustin · 30-12-2020 10:03PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

This has aged well......
What's the strategy now.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1313231967400402946?s=20

He was absolutely right that night. If there was an issue, it was with NPHET who moved from recommending Level 2 to Level 5 within 3 days.

Golfwidow · 30-12-2020 10:03PM

Stheno wrote: »

Perhaps the advice on symptoms should be updated?

Even a senior medic here came out and said children with runny nose is not an issue back in August

The HSE site lists runny nose as a sometimes symptom too

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40037420.html%3ftype=amp

Symptoms definitely need updating on HSE website.

KrustyUCC · 30-12-2020 10:04PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

This has aged well......
What's the strategy now.

https://twitter.com/rtenews/status/1313231967400402946?s=20

NPHET didn't even recommend level three on a Thursday and then pushed the nuclear button of level five on a Sunday mysteriously after Tony got back to work

The government was right to try level three first as NPHET don't have to consider societal and economic consequences of their recommendations

Busi_Girl08 · 30-12-2020 10:04PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Are his parents in a vulnerable group?

Such a shame as you can't get back your first new years engaged

Fcuk covid is right

Both over 65 and his mum's chest isn't amazing.

Ah its ****e but there's more at stake than us. We'll be able to mark and celebrate it properly some other time.

KrustyUCC · 30-12-2020 10:07PM

Busi_Girl08 wrote: »

Both over 65 and his mum's chest isn't amazing.

Ah its ****e but there's more at stake than us. We'll be able to mark and celebrate it properly some other time.

Fair play to you and him

Tough sacrifice to make

BorneTobyWilde · 30-12-2020 10:07PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What you had prior to Christmas with a few bits extra , schools off until the 11th so far. You can still make compassionate visits, visit a grave etc

Really, so a pretend Level 5 . Everyone ignoring the rules, 90% of non essential retailers open as normal. Great
MeHole is some man .

Happydays2020 · 30-12-2020 10:08PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Really, so a pretend Level 5 . Everyone ignoring the rules, 90% of non essential retailers open as normal. Great
MeHole is some man .

It is up to people to control their own behaviour.

caveat emptor · 30-12-2020 10:09PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

He was absolutely right that night. If there was an issue, it was with NPHET who moved from recommending Level 2 to Level 5 within 3 days.

Really? Which part did you think was right? Also Is 4 weeks enough this time around given they weren't so convinced last time around.

Varadkar said: "The problem we had with the proposal that was we didn't feel it had been thought through properly.

"For example we asked for some comfort that four weeks might be enough, given that it hasn't been enough in Melbourne, it doesn't appear to be enough in Israel.

"They weren't able to give us that comfort.

"We also asked them what would happen after the four weeks if it didn't work, would we abandon that strategy or would we proceed regardless.

"They said they hadn't contemplated that.

Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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