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Covid 19 Part XXX-113,332 ROI(2,282 deaths) 81,251 NI (1,384 deaths) (05/01) Read OP

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  • #3002
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Arghus wrote: »
    It was a false choice and a bad gamble.

    Lives and livelihoods are not any better off now facing into another level 5 for at least another month. It's a bogus argument.

    We'll pay a heavy price now, heavier than it had to be and, while, maybe, the government couldn't foresee everything, it shouldn't have gone out of its way to make the least desirous outcome the most likely.

    A lot of said livelihoods wanted the opening in December in the full knowledge of potential restrictions in January. December was a more important month.


  • #3003
    Will Yam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Will Yam


    Tpcl20 wrote: »

    Their parents lack of control over the children, going around spreading covid, shouldn't be the problem of education staff.

    .

    No it shouldn’t.

    But given a choice between spreading more Covid through society becuse of parents irresponsibility or less because they are in school, which would you opt for?


  • #3004
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    GP Buddy twitter posted earlier:

    "A relentless virus,sweeping through our homes & communities.Symptoms? - isolate.Chances are it’s NOT a cold"

    I thought most of the covid symptoms were not like colds albeit they can be. But is it not a stretch to suggest that if you have a sniffle it's probably NOT a cold??


  • #3005
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,617 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Is this the pretend level 5 , or the real level 5 we had in march.


  • #3006
    The HorsesMouth
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 512 ✭✭✭The HorsesMouth


    Today just nails it home that we need vaccination and we need it so fast. This delay in the AZ one on the EU side is absolutely infuriating. It's obvious the vaccine is safe, but there is either a delay with AZ sending info to the EMA or the EMA are being ridiculously pedantic. There is NO excuse for either happening.


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  • #3007
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,160 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    CruelSummer wrote: »
    This post is complete nonsense. It's like you want to 'punish' the Government for allowing Christmas to go ahead in some shape or form. What did you want? Level 5 indefinitely? Gabriel Scally's suggestion of Christmas at the end of June?

    The fact is, a new variant came from the U.K., which even NPHET in their own highly questionable over eager modelling forecasts didn't predict. Hence the unexpected increase in cases. We've no evidence as yet at all to suggest this variant is more dangerous, and plenty to suggest it isn't.

    I can't get into a lot of this again. I've already tried to explain myself multiple times, but there are a few things here that are just wrong or totally exaggerated.

    Do I think the government should have cancelled Christmas - No.
    Did I want level 5 indefinitely - No, I've said this multiple times.
    Gabriel Sally's suggestion - No, I never said that was a good idea.

    Complete misinterpretation of many things myself and others have said.

    And moving on:
    The jury is out about whether the growth is entirely explained by the new varient. It may play a part, it may not, the socialisation in December may have done plenty of the damage in and of itself.

    Now, this final part amazes me:
    We've no evidence as yet at all to suggest this variant is more dangerous, and plenty to suggest it isn't.

    You do understand that if it is 70% more transmissible that is a huge problem in and of itself. Maybe it doesn't cause any worse symptoms in individuals, but if it's harder to contain and easier to spread that means that in real terms it is more dangerous because it can infect more people in a shorter time, which in turn leads to more hospitalisation, places the health system under more strain in less time etc, etc.


  • #3008
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    GP Buddy twitter posted earlier:

    "A relentless virus,sweeping through our homes & communities.Symptoms? - isolate.Chances are it’s NOT a cold"

    I thought most of the covid symptoms were not like colds albeit they can be. But is it not a stretch to suggest that if you have a sniffle it's probably NOT a cold??

    The main symptoms are different, temperature, cough, difficulty breathing, loss of taste or smell

    Not sure a runny nose would get you a test now if you don't have one of the others


  • #3009
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    We’ve overtaken China for total number of cases.

    Yeah...sure...


  • #3010
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Is this the pretend level 5 , or the real level 5 we had in march.

    What you had prior to Christmas with a few bits extra , schools off until the 11th so far. You can still make compassionate visits, visit a grave etc


  • #3011
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Will Yam wrote: »
    No it shouldn’t.

    But given a choice between spreading more Covid through society becuse of parents irresponsibility or less because they are in school, which would you opt for?

    Parents should be responsible for their kids end of.


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  • #3012
    dwainec
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 179 ✭✭dwainec


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Is this the pretend level 5 , or the real level 5 we had in march.

    Pretend level 5


  • #3013
    RandomViewer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We’ve overtaken China for total number of cases.

    Yeah...sure...

    Highly unlikely, we'll never know China's real figures


  • #3014
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Morons

    https://twitter.com/pbreen67/status/1344368558168535042


  • #3015
    The Crazy Cat Lady
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭The Crazy Cat Lady


    speckle wrote: »
    comes under this?

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158-essential-services/#human-health-and-social-work-activities

    Human health and social work activities

    15. The following services relating to human health and social work activities:

    hospital services
    therapy services provided by a member of a designated profession within the meaning of section 3 of the Health and Social Care Professionals Act 2005 (No. 27 of 2005)
    services relating to public health, including services relating to:

    (i) the identification, tracing and contacting of persons who have been in contact with persons who have been diagnosed, or are suspected of having been infected, with COVID-19

    and

    (ii) the testing of persons for COVID-19

    laboratory services
    drug treatment and addiction services
    hospice services
    pharmacy services
    primary care and general and specialist medical practice activities
    dental services
    blood donation and related services
    tissue or organ donation and related services
    residential care services (including nursing care, mental health and substance abuse services, services for elderly persons and persons with disabilities) and children’s residential services
    homecare, home help and other health services in the community
    social work and social care services, (including disability services, mental health services, child protection and welfare services, domestic, sexual and gender-based violence services) and homeless services including homeless outreach services
    paramedical, ambulance and pre-hospital care services
    services provided by minor injury units
    maternity services
    health and social work services
    food safety and environmental services
    childcare services
    anti-doping services in accordance with Part 4 of the Sport Ireland Act 2015 (No. 15 of 2015)
    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    :P

    Most of the admin for day services are on leave until Monday maybe send the key worker for the adult affected a text asking for an update I'd say they're as lost about what's going to happen next as you or I are my service won't be contactable until Monday morning but try tomorrow morning yourself.

    thanks guys :)


  • #3016
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    We’ve overtaken China for total number of cases.

    Yeah...sure...

    Why not? The Chinese have handled this correctly.


  • #3017
    Antares35
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,845 ✭✭✭Antares35


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Morons

    https://twitter.com/pbreen67/status/1344368558168535042

    Why are they even on the beach in this weather??


  • #3018
    ElJeffe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 725 ✭✭✭ElJeffe


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Morons

    https://twitter.com/pbreen67/status/1344368558168535042

    You can only laugh really.


  • #3019
    fits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,047 ✭✭✭✭fits


    TonyMaloney wrote: »
    I apologise. I was going down a route there that I was regretting more and more by the minute.

    I, like a lot of you I suspect, am having a bad day.

    Yeah I think there’s a lot of frustration and despair today. I’m relieved our family seem to have gotten through Xmas safely. But the month ahead will be bleak enough.


  • #3020
    Cork2021
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Cork2021


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Why not? The Chinese have handled this correctly.

    By locking people into their homes!! Plus that 80,000 odd cases they have are a lot a lot higher then what they’re saying


  • #3021
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,040 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    khalessi wrote: »
    Parents should be responsible for their kids end of.

    Well that'll never happen.


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  • #3022
    Scoondal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    Will Special Needs people have to tolerate restrictions that they don't understand ? What happened with these citizens in April was disgusting. I think as an emphatic country we are going downhill.


  • #3023
    billyhead
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,648 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    They just want to give the 2 fingers to authority. Absolute clowns and Muppets. They wouldn't get away with it in Italy or Spain.


  • #3024
    awec
    Administrators Posts: 55,044 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Why not? The Chinese have handled this correctly.

    :D

    There is no way you believe it's possible that we've had more cases than China.


  • #3025
    SpacialNeeds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 203 ✭✭SpacialNeeds


    Just counted there and I've seen 23 people outside of work all year. Besides ten family members, three who i provide care assistance to, I've seen 13 of my friends socially, total. All outside.


  • #3026
    Scoondal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭Scoondal


    ElJeffe wrote: »
    Why not? The Chinese have handled this correctly.

    In many urban municipal areas in The Philippines, there are zero cases.


  • #3027
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,838 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    dwainec wrote: »
    Pretend level 5

    Apart from closing schools it's virtually all present and correct, no?


  • #3028
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    Scoondal wrote: »
    In many urban municipal areas in The Philippines, there are zero cases.

    Absolutely, although excess deaths not great for some unknown reason.


  • #3029
    oldtimeyfella
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 382 ✭✭oldtimeyfella


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Why are they even on the beach in this weather??


    Because they aren't supposed to be.


    Horrible selfish country.


  • #3030
    darem93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 200 ✭✭darem93


    My friend got a notification from the app to say she was a close contact. She rang up to get a test and really struggled to get anywhere. So she rang back and lied about having symptoms, finally got the test and it came back positive!

    Why is it so hard to actually get a test in the South? All my friends in the North just book it online no questions asked and they have it the next day. Whereas it seems to be so complicated here in the South just to secure one. Like I understand capacity issues but this was even the case back in August when I tried to get a test last time.


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  • #3031
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Antares35 wrote: »
    Why are they even on the beach in this weather??

    Even with no virus. Gathering with freezing temperatures seems v unwise. From attending college younger people are having lots of parties etc. At that age new social contacts is more important than anything to many


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