Buying options (post Brexit)

Fionn wrote: »

Another thing to note with German suppliers, beside fairly steep shipping prices is, they'll charge you 21%VAT and not the German 16% VAt.

Where it hurts, is if your looking for a small ticket item perhaps not available locally, the price will be very expensive with shipping and VAT added on.

So things are going to get pricier!

I ended up with a longer post than expected. TL:DR - I have looked around, - skip to bolded part, I am looking for any better recommendations if possible.

I don't find the German shipping prices too steep, but I also mainly use mailboxde anyway, and activate consolidated shipping each year. It has gone up a bit since they started, but it's only around €13 now, their prices as a whole have gone up, but still not too steep. I find their prices fairly good.
Only watch out for the way things are packaged from the seller.
For example, I received two separate orders of agando pc's last month, and they each arrived in a large box with the PC and the boxes for the components inside it (shipping for each box was €23 iirc).
I consolidated them to one massive box unknowingly, and the shipping was around €40.
That could have been done cheaper. I just didn't realise agando shipped them like that.
I also got two tablets from Huawei-Germany that were on sale, and messed up again, so had to consolidate those too, they were each in a box that would have fit the packaging of two - three tablets and pens, I consolidated both, and they came to €26 delivered. Again, I could have done it cheaper.
When ordering, best to try and leave instructions with seller or you can pay for photo (€2.10), or pay for the packaging to be removed before consolidating and plenty of other services. I find them cheaper than mygermany or other options.
Parcl is another one (not just for Germany), but can be hit or miss, luckily with them you can get a price before ordering product if you can get the correct shipping dimensions (I use amazon to look up most of them).
Plenty of Parcl-shippers will come back to you with a quote.

I am currently a bit stuck looking for a motherboard bundle, cheap enough, so I am looking at agando, csl-computer, memorypc, voelkner and one or two others in Germany, and in the UK I am looking at cclonline, scan, novatech, palicomp, aria, quietpc and a few others.
I find Germany as a general rule, cheaper than the UK including shipping (particularly if you use mailboxde and get 16% vat, - cheaper again with consolidation),
But as I am both stuck by time constraints (not so much) and a very small budget, I am wondering if UK would be better now, and if there are any places in the UK that would be recommended?
I guessed this thread might be better as it is about buying options.
I am looking at these two at the minute
https://www.cclonline.com/product/27811/NoMfgCode/NoCat/CCL-Alpha-Prime-Motherboard-Bundle/MBB-AMD-BUD/
OR
https://www.memorypc.de/hardware-zubehoer/aufruest-kits/amd/518/aufruest-kit-asus-prime-a320m-k-amd-ryzen-3-3200g-4x-3.6-ghz-0-gb-ddr4-amd-vega-11?c=23

CCLonline seems to offer free UK shipping, but £9.90 to Ireland, yet if I use ParcelMotel (for faster shipping and price), it is more expensive (£12) and slower.. Which is weird, DPD shipping.

https://www.moneyguideireland.com/irish-customs-duty-on-uk-online-purchases.html

Seems we're ok even in a No Deal situation?

yoshiktk wrote: »

Isnt that article a little weird or I dont understand it correctly. First it mentiones the USA as the partner with we trade on FTA tariff and than says we wont have to pay customs on pc from UK based on that but arent we paying the customs when we order stuff from USA now?

There's a list of exceptions. Duty and duty tax, now it is understood, shouldn't be with duty tax as it's exempt. But there's still on more issue - will warranty work when we buy in the UK but use the purchase abroad? And who would protect consumers' rights? Currently the EU regulations protect consumers, but in won't be the case after the 1st of January.

Tony wrote: »

Good business opportunity there for you so

To be honest, I was thinking about it

Citrus_8 wrote: »

Irish entrepreneurs could once stop being lazy and make things work in the country. Demand is there due to working at home etc., and after Brexit demand will stay long after. Simply existing PC building and part web shops could adopt, create better pricing and more options to choose from. Win win. But I wouldn't expect than from lazy Irish businesses. They can only be happy getting easy money without investment or moan for not making money (while same time doing nothing to attract customers and create the market or oversee the opportunities).

Unless you have an investor behind you with deep pockets it aint worth it on a profit level..the price of IT gear wholesale is a scandal unless you are buying in big bulk like scan and overclockers can afford to.

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I have a Ryzen 7 on its way - hope it gets there before the cut-off date!

I've a couple of bits on the way that seem to have gotten caught up in Royal Mail's backlog that were on their way to parcel motel, hope it's not a nightmare to get them now if they're further delayed.

Seems like they just left everything till the last minute in the hopes of a deal getting done and not putting any measures in place for the worst case scenario.

They stopped making the 5700 series a couple of months back.

Second hand would be your best bet or wait for the 3060 or 6700 coming early next year.

Not instantly but over the last 2 months yes.

No new supply, all current stock sold out as there's also no new next gen mid range cards to replace them yet, and the November/December months see's most of the yearly sales on parts like that.

MadYaker wrote: »

They stop making it and its instantly out of stock everywhere, that seems a bit unusual. I don't want the newer generation, I don't need it and its too expensive.

I actually can't find any website website that sells graphics cards and ships to Ireland that has anything at all in stock. What is going on?

The 5700 XT came out 1.5 years ago and was 400 squid; best price was earlier this year when they were down to 300-odd.

Right now, the after-effects of COVID have completely disrupted all supply lines for GPUs as air freight & production in China have taken massive hits.

So all you can do is buy used, or hold on until the RX 6700 / RTX 3060 come out in January/February.

Why would it be "Irish" prices? The other Amazon EU storefronts are already competitive (and sometimes cheaper) on price with UK.

As Amazon UK already charge us Irish VAT, goods under €150 in value won't incur any duty.

mossym wrote: »

mailbox.de was mentioned earlier, is buying from mindfactory and using them feasible? in my head i;ve some recollection of there being a problem with that?

When you do over 50k in sales to Ireland, you have to register for VAT here and charge the customers the Irish VAT rate at checkout, then give it to revenue with all the quirks of our taxation system.

Most companies never seem to want to bother, so they end up killing delivery's here when the Irish tax man eventually comes knocking. Ebuyer, mindfactory and probably others over the years have all done this.

Amazon will happily do so from their other shopfronts. But the other English companies I suspect will be very uncompetitive after brexit because it will effectively be double taxation.

That's interesting, well spotted! So as long as Amazon continue to charge Irish VAT, no additional fee should be payable on electronic imports from Amazon UK.

fredotf2 wrote: »

Are we sure that computer parts are not actually exempt from customs duty?
https://www.moneyguideireland.com/irish-customs-duty-on-uk-online-purchases.html

I saw that the other day and didn't pay much attention to it. Good to know.



https://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1522&title=EU-removes-customs-duties-on-IT-equipment


I have ordered parts from the U.S. before and got hit when they arrived (expected it), including Raspberry Pi's.

So I am guessing that I was incorrectly charged? Or did I misread something..

Overclockers have always charged Irish VAT rates for goods coming to here. So it seems they are indeed registered for Irish VAT. Put anything in your basket and watch the price increase when you tell them its coming here. They are always way more expensive than Amazon anyway so it'll be Amazon for me where possible.

Wheety wrote: »

I've also been looking at the taric site for computer parts and it does indeed look like 0% customs. Ordering computer parts from Amazon UK should not change then.

I placed 2 items in my basket on amazon.com and there was no customs duty due. The charges (Import Fees Deposit) are just VAT at 21%. The UK site already charges this.



I don't think there's sales tax in the US? Well not at a federal level. Think individual states have their own? Do they add different taxes depending on where you live in the US?

Yeah there's no federal sales tax it's all just based on your state.

TheRover wrote: »

Yeah but what hidden taxes are in those $279 of "shipping and handling" ? I mean, unless you added a dishwasher there, any logistics site will charge you less than half for sending a package across the pond

I had added a monitor. Very expensive I agree but a M.2 hard drive was around $10 delivery. Cost was below €150 so I just added something else to bring it over the customs level.

Anyone order from Scan.co.uk thinking of pouncing on a new processor

Suckit wrote: »

I saw that the other day and didn't pay much attention to it. Good to know.



https://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/press/index.cfm?id=1522&title=EU-removes-customs-duties-on-IT-equipment


I have ordered parts from the U.S. before and got hit when they arrived (expected it), including Raspberry Pi's.

So I am guessing that I was incorrectly charged? Or did I misread something..

You were charged Irish VAT on the whole value (inc. delivery) plus a processing fee by your courier. If you were charged actual customs duty, possibly rates have changed since then.