Buying options (post Brexit)

unkel · 06-01-2021 8:02pm

The big UK suppliers will sell the part to you ex UK VAT. Then on the pre-VAT price, they add the Irish VAT (and pay this to the Irish Revenue). If the order is over €150, you will be hit with 10% import duty too if the package gets intercepted. But chances are that if the package is from a number of well known suppliers in the UK who have an arrangement with the Revenue that it will be let go. It's quite likely though that the suppliers are tuning their systems right now to incorporate this import duty. Amazon in the USA does it already and has done for some time.

So get caught and suck it up. Don't get caught and things were exactly like they were before Brexit

And keep us updated with your experiences getting stuff in and out of the UK!

Ogham · 06-01-2021 9:39pm

unkel wrote: »

The big UK suppliers will sell the part to you ex UK VAT. Then on the pre-VAT price, they add the Irish VAT (and pay this to the Irish Revenue). If the order is over €150, you will be hit with 10% import duty too if the package gets intercepted. But chances are that if the package is from a number of well known suppliers in the UK who have an arrangement with the Revenue that it will be let go. It's quite likely though that the suppliers are tuning their systems right now to incorporate this import duty. Amazon in the USA does it already and has done for some time.

So get caught and suck it up. Don't get caught and things were exactly like they were before Brexit

And keep us updated with your experiences getting stuff in and out of the UK!

0% EU Duty on computers and all computer parts regardless of the country of origin - guaranteed .

K.O.Kiki · 06-01-2021 9:56pm

Anyone remember the EU law we were supposed to have, forcing retailers to ship to any country in EU?

I posted about it some time ago but can't find the link.

Ogham · 06-01-2021 10:32pm

K.O.Kiki wrote: »

Anyone remember the EU law we were supposed to have, forcing retailers to ship to any country in EU?

I posted about it some time ago but can't find the link.

I think it was more of a law to stop blocking of access - but not to force them to ship stuff anywhere.
They have to allow all EU members to order stuff - but the customer might have to arrange delivery to their own country themselves . (Like a parcel forwarding service).

Can't find the actual law - but this is the proposal for it .
Might help
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/MEMO_16_1896

buzzerxx · 07-01-2021 12:03am

Ogham wrote: »

0% EU Duty on computers and all computer parts regardless of the country of origin - guaranteed .

just test buying and noticed €239 duty being charged on a pc monitor today on amazon uk. ?

Ogham · 07-01-2021 12:07am

buzzerxx wrote: »

just test buying and duty being charged on a pc monitor today on amazon uk. ?

Are you sure it's not just the Irish vat.?
Can you give a breakdown of the price , pre checkout and at checkout?

Ogham · 07-01-2021 12:12am

Ogham wrote: »

Are you sure it's not just the Irish vat.?
Can you give a breakdown of the price , pre checkout and at checkout?

Sorry , just noticed the picture. Biggest part of that is the Irish vat. It would be easier to work out if you show the sterling price and the price shown before checkout.

unkel · 07-01-2021 12:29am

The 239.75 is exactly 21% of 1141.68. In other words, this is just the 21% Irish VAT. The base price is now without the 20% UK VAT. It's been like that for years, but just presented in a different way (same way as Amazon has presented it when you go buy something from the US site Amazon.com)

xtal191 · 07-01-2021 12:56am

Yeah its listed as £1,237.37 just over £10 more posted to Ireland

buzzerxx · 07-01-2021 1:11am

No its not vat. must be a coincidence. im vat free on amazon as long as its business related purchases, as its a business account

buzzerxx · 07-01-2021 1:20am

Sorry, you may be right. i must not be able to get vat exempt prices any more since 1st Jan.

Aodhan5000 · 07-01-2021 1:32am

buzzerxx wrote: »

Sorry, you may be right. i must not be able to get vat exempt prices any more since 1st Jan.

Could you reclaim the VAT on it then after the purchase, seeing as its Irish VAT you're paying?

buzzerxx · 07-01-2021 1:33am

Aodhan5000 wrote: »

Could you reclaim the VAT on it then after the purchase, seeing as its Irish VAT you're paying?

Yes but its more paperwork that way and slower. Apologies again for the confusion.

unkel · 07-01-2021 1:37am

buzzerxx wrote: »

Yes but its more paperwork that way. Apologies again for the confusion.

Should be easy. You'll get an invoice with the Irish VAT on it. As easy to claim it back as with any invoice from any Irish supplier

buzzerxx · 07-01-2021 2:01am

unkel wrote: »

Should be easy. You'll get an invoice with the Irish VAT on it. As easy to claim it back as with any invoice from any Irish supplier

Yes but before brexit i didnt pay any vat on uk business purchases there fore there was no need to add it to the vat calculations and no need to check if it was allowed for in the vat returns.

combat14 · 07-01-2021 2:05am

just skip the uk problem solved

mossym · 07-01-2021 2:08am

ronivek wrote: »

I've a 5900x pre-ordered with Overclockers; any chance you'd confirm if you had to pay any customs duties or had any other issues with the delivery?

will do. got my delivery notification from DPD ireland, so looks like it is in country and no notification on any charges yet.

TheRover · 07-01-2021 11:00am

mossym wrote: »

will do. got my delivery notification from DPD ireland, so looks like it is in country and no notification on any charges yet.

Is your package over 150 eur worth?

mossym · 07-01-2021 11:06am

mossym wrote: »

overclockers are still shipping to ireland i think? they shipped my 5900x yesterday, and they still list ireland on their webpage shipping as they are irish vat registered. they do say they have stopped shipping to rest of europe though

mossym wrote: »

will do. got my delivery notification from DPD ireland, so looks like it is in country and no notification on any charges yet.

TheRover wrote: »

Is your package over 150 eur worth?

was all in the posts above...

smacl · 07-01-2021 12:43pm

combat14 wrote: »

just skip the uk problem solved

Yep. Had some bits I'd planned to order on Amazon prime via amazon.co.uk, just switched it all over to amazon.de and all good with my prime account and company VAT number automatically picked up. Be interesting to see how long it takes to get here, bought yesterday dispatch notice this morning.

TheValeyard · 07-01-2021 1:07pm

Sorry if this has already been asked.

If I pay Vat on a UK good. Then have to pay Vat on arrival to Ireland, can I claim a Vat refund from the UK?

smacl · 07-01-2021 1:29pm

TheValeyard wrote: »

Sorry if this has already been asked.

If I pay Vat on a UK good. Then have to pay Vat on arrival to Ireland, can I claim a Vat refund from the UK?

SFAIK, you'd have to claim it from to UK government which could be problematic without being registered for VAT in the UK

Not sure what the story is from UK to Ireland, but goods from the EU to the UK are still zero rated for VAT so I would have thought the reverse would also hold. See http://brexitlegal.ie/exports-from-eu/

TheRover · 07-01-2021 1:51pm

smacl wrote: »

Yep. Had some bits I'd planned to order on Amazon prime via amazon.co.uk, just switched it all over to amazon.de and all good with my prime account and company VAT number automatically picked up. Be interesting to see how long it takes to get here, bought yesterday dispatch notice this morning.

Some components seem to be cheaper in amazon.fr than in amazon.de, but unsure how shipping works in both cases

07-01-2021 1:54pm

TheRover wrote: »

Some components seem to be cheaper in amazon.fr than in amazon.de, but unsure how shipping works in both cases

https://www.hagglezon.com/ - useful site to compare something across fr, de, it, nl and uk sites.

mossym · 07-01-2021 1:57pm

surprised at uk prime working for germany, it's been confirmed several times all the primes are sepreate subs and you need a seperate one per country. maybe they have changed something due to brexit

unkel · 07-01-2021 2:06pm

unkel wrote: »

€638, in stock and including free delivery tomorrow to NL. By far the cheapest and quickest option I could find. Will cost an additional €23 to get it shipped (insured) from NL to Ireland.

For anyone interested, this was from megekko.nl, a webshop with a good reputation

Delivered in NL next day, like they promised. Seems a very good site with excellent prices (better than Amazon)

unkel · 07-01-2021 2:09pm

Another thing some people might not realise: No VAT is charged (until July) on any package coming into the EU worth €22 or less.

In other words, if you have prime free delivery, you could order a GBP17.99 120GB SSD from Amazon.co.uk, like I just did. At checkout, the price will be ex-UK VAT, so GBP14.97. This is what you pay! No shipping, no VAT :cool:

TheRover · 07-01-2021 2:10pm

unkel wrote: »

Delivered in NL next day, like they promised. Seems a very good site with excellent prices (better than Amazon)

All it's missing is a "this site in English" button

TheRover · 07-01-2021 2:11pm

unkel wrote: »

Another thing some people might not realise: No VAT is charged (until July) on any package coming into the EU worth €22 or less.

In other words, if you have prime free delivery, you could order a GBP17.99 120GB SSD from Amazon.co.uk, like I just did. At checkout, the price will be ex-UK VAT, so GBP14.97. This is what you pay! No shipping, no VAT :cool:

Wanted to do the same with Arctic P12 case fans... except that amazon are charging almost twice the price of scan, so I might wait for scan to get back to normal

unkel · 07-01-2021 2:16pm

TheRover wrote: »

All it's missing is a "this site in English" button

Is "i7 10700k" written differently in Dutch than it is in English?

:pac:

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