Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

BobbyMalone wrote: »

Nobody knows what's coming down the line, certainly not beyond 6 months or thereabouts. The UK already have (limited) people at sporting events- with a vaccine here, rolled out efficiently, we might very well have gigs back in some form by the end of summer/autumn.

Thats a big ask of the HSE

brisan wrote: »

Thats a big ask of the HSE

By summer we will have alot of events back on. Hse handle the kids flu jab well, so well they over estimated the demand

Anyone else feeling quite downbeat regarding our ability to manage this vaccine roll out efficiently?

I appreciate the EMA are still in the review process but when we look at both the U.K and the USA - whilst they are certainly not the gold standard in terms of pandemic response, they seem to be all over the vaccine roll out.

The UK have been inoculating for nearly a week now and have a huge program in place to support the deployment.

The US are deploying over 3 million doses country wide early this week and plan to have the same number of people inoculated by December 31st.

Meanwhile in Ireland, we will likely just get more details of our roll out plan this week, the doctors nurses and pharmacists will be ‘consulted’ on their role in the coming days and the latest rhetoric from government is that it will be at least the middle of next year before any meaningful level of the population will have the vaccine. All the while we are also being told that the vaccine is just another tool to be used with restrictions. Perhaps the UK and the USA are simply being too optimistic and massaging information for the benefit of public opinion but nonetheless, I would have liked to have seen a little more urgency, foresight and optimism for ourselves in Ireland.

Golfman64 wrote: »

Anyone else feeling quite downbeat regarding our ability to manage this vaccine roll out efficiently?

I appreciate the EMA are still in the review process but when we look at both the U.K and the USA - whilst they are certainly not the gold standard in terms of pandemic response, they seem to be all over the vaccine roll out.

The UK have been inoculating for nearly a week now and have a huge program in place to support the deployment.

The US are deploying over 3 million doses country wide early this week and plan to have the same number of people inoculated by December 31st.

Meanwhile in Ireland, we will likely just get more details of our roll out plan this week, the doctors nurses and pharmacists will be ‘consulted’ on their role in the coming days and the latest rhetoric from government is that it will be at least the middle of next year before any meaningful level of the population will have the vaccine. All the while we are also being told that the vaccine is just another tool to be used with restrictions. Perhaps the UK and the USA are simply being too optimistic and massaging information for the benefit of public opinion but nonetheless, I would have liked to have seen a little more urgency, foresight and optimism for ourselves in Ireland.

I rather they under promise and over deliver imo.

ednwireland wrote: »

the HSE none whatsoever !

Martin already saying very little vaccine roll out in jan/ feb - optimal period may/ june (when we know the virus will reduce anyway if this years anything to go by.

https://www.thejournal.ie/vaccine-roll-out-ireland-5298883-Dec2020/

holohan will go into defend the HSE at all costs mode as well

He said enough for priority groups in the early stages with larger volumes arriving March through April, May and June and what they expect is in the May / June period to be fully open.

I don't often agree with what he says but he's probably right on that timeline I'd say.

Initial volumes will only be enough to cater for the high priority groups not general population

Looks the the Netherlands is going to go into a hard lockdown tonight for about 4 weeks!!

Hey folks, posted this question in another thread but feel I might have more luck with advice here-

Is it possible to get a test anomalously? Or is it the case that all details of private testing are being recorded.

Getting a pre Christmas test done but don't want any potential postive result effecting things like health and life insurance as I'm drawing down on a new mortgage in January and one of the questions on the life insurance is 'have you been diagnosed with Covid 19 in the last 6 months.

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Have you a link to that?

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1214/1184314-coronavirus-europe/

seamus wrote: »

They seem to have gotten a handle on their cases around the same time that we did, went into a flatline again like we did, but about two weeks ago saw another surge.

Since we know this infection tends to follow roughly the same patterns within regions, that would explain why we've been having trouble getting our numbers any lower.

But it equally begs the question of why Netherlands saw their numbers rise when we didn't.

Having a brief look at their measures, it seems like the big difference is (as one would expect), social contacts, especially at home. Dutch people have been permitted to have 3 visitors in their home daily (with no limit on child visitors) since 17th November, and indoor groups of up to 30 (events and stuff).

So while our restrictions on informal socialising seem draconian, they also seem to be working.

Aside from that, can we take a moment to appreciate the clarity and simplicity of the Dutch Covid Dashboard: https://coronadashboard.government.nl/

In relation to younger children there was this belief, mainly due to Sweden leaving schools open and some statements from their Public Health Authority, that they played little or no part in the spread of this virus.
Less than two weeks ago with the daily new cases in Sweden around 7,000, 40% were primary school children.
The no limit on child visitors by the Dutch may not have been a wise decision.

daydorunrun wrote: »

Hey folks, posted this question in another thread but feel I might have more luck with advice here-

Is it possible to get a test anomalously? Or is it the case that all details of private testing are being recorded.

Getting a pre Christmas test done but don't want any potential postive result effecting things like health and life insurance as I'm drawing down on a new mortgage in January and one of the questions on the life insurance is 'have you been diagnosed with Covid 19 in the last 6 months.

Well unless the test is a necessity I would not get it
Have you symptoms
Are you a close contact
If the test is just for travel I would stay put unless you are fairly confident it will be a negative test result
As far as I know no test is anonymous
Even if it is anonymous you would still be faced with filling in the form if the result was positive with covid
Lying on those is never a good idea

seamus wrote: »

Aside from that, can we take a moment to appreciate the clarity and simplicity of the Dutch Covid Dashboard: https://coronadashboard.government.nl/

I wonder how many Dutch people are rolling their eyes and giving out on Dutch boards about 'oh, they're concerned, it's the same thing every week'?

PowerToWait wrote: »

I wonder how many Dutch people are rolling their eyes and giving out on Dutch boards about 'oh, they're concerned, it's the same thing every week'?

They are apoplectic with rage that the vaccine hasn't been approved.

brisan wrote: »

Well unless the test is a necessity I would not get it
Have you symptoms
Are you a close contact
If the test is just for travel I would stay put unless you are fairly confident it will be a negative test result
As far as I know no test is anonymous
Even if it is anonymous you would still be faced with filling in the form if the result was positive with covid
Lying on those is never a good idea

No symptoms just peace of mind for returning home to elderly parents- doing a 7 days isolation and test before going home. very confident of a negative test as work from home and have limited contacts anyway.

Wouldn't be inclined to lie on an insurance form, trouble with a positive result would mean having to fess up even though having a positive test result doesn't mean having any illness when it comes to covid!

Sleety_Rain wrote: »

I wonder will our next lockdown commence on the 27th December or 2nd January!

Whenever Tony and the Government return to work after the Christmas break
EDIT
It will take a few days after that for the facts and case numbers to tabulated and the concernometer to be ramped up