Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

TonyMaloney · 13-12-2020 09:14PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

They need to stop using cases as a metric too.

Eh the casedemic theory has fallen flat on it's face.

landofthetree · 13-12-2020 09:16PM

sonofenoch wrote: »

Prolly the gob****es who couldn't wait to do in the first 5 mins what they hadn't been allowed do the previous few weeks

Maybe 2m isnt enough.
Studies in Korea have shown that you can get it in an indoor setting at 6m(20 feet).

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/infected-after-5-minutes-from-20-feet-away-south-korea-study-shows-covid-19s-spread-indoors/?amp=1&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=article_inset_1.1&__twitter_impression=true

hynesie08 · 13-12-2020 09:18PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

There will be no concerts, festivals or nightclubs in 2021. People need to be mature now and face reality.

There will be though.....

KaneToad · 13-12-2020 09:20PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We'll see. Nobody can say either way with any certainty

A few vaccines change things Big time.

True.

There is still uncertainty and we are (in a controlled way) making it up as we go along. Vaccines are definitely going to help but will not be the panacea that some think.

1) it's not clear, yet, how long immunity lasts
2) it's not clear, yet, if an immune person can transmit the disease

Hopefully the combination of vaccines and improved knowledge of the disease will allow us to get back to a less restrictive way of life.

alentejo · 13-12-2020 09:23PM

429 today, 629 next week and 1200+ by NYE. Numbers are the most import name in the Covid Game.

Covid and winter dont go.

hynesie08 · 13-12-2020 09:25PM

alentejo wrote: »

429 today, 629 next week and 1200+ by NYE. Numbers are the most import name in the Covid Game.

Covid and winter dont go.

I would have thought it would be deaths and icu admissions.......

TonyMaloney · 13-12-2020 09:25PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We'll see. Nobody can say either way with any certainty

A few vaccines change things Big time.

If the vaccine stops transmission, then even if only 20% of us have had it by summer it could be a game changer.

If it doesn't, then it'll probably be a bit of a slog for a while.

The other big thing to pray for is an early and decent spring. I'm pretty gloomy about that prospect though, with good reason.

13-12-2020 09:26PM

alentejo wrote: »

429 today, 629 next week and 1200+ by NYE. Numbers are the most import name in the Covid Game.

Covid and winter dont go.

Less cases in last 7 days than previous

landofthetree · 13-12-2020 09:27PM

alentejo wrote: »

429 today, 629 next week and 1200+ by NYE. Numbers are the most import name in the Covid Game.

Covid and winter dont go.

Unfortunately this is true.

Coronavirus spreads fastest at 4ºC according to the scientists.

h2005 · 13-12-2020 09:33PM

thegreengoblin wrote: »

You posted some fairly specific info about him and his family. I call that snitching.

Ah FFS come on!

The_Brood · 13-12-2020 09:37PM

Fully expect to be back in 1000 cases in the next day or so. Dublin center packed to the roof. If they keep reporting lower numbers I think its evidence of mass scale manipulation of numbers by the government. You cant have whats happening in Dublin and not be in the 1000s soon.

Which is gonna mean back to level 5 right before Christmas - but they might purposefuly hide the spike until after the new year. We will see if they are honest or not.

Kermit.de.frog · 13-12-2020 09:38PM

We will require new tougher measures just before or just after Christmas.

Cases are on the way up because less pressure is being applied. It will keep going that way faster and faster until suppressive policies are reapplied.

This is cause and effect. It's not breaking news.

I stand by what I said from the beginning of the month. No one will care about Christmas afterward and the irresponsibility of lifting restrictions will not have been worth it as people will see.

13-12-2020 09:40PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

We will require new tougher measures just before or just after Christmas.

Cases are on the way up because less pressure is being applied. It will keep going that way faster and faster until suppressive policies are reapplied.

This is cause and effect. It's not breaking news.

I stand by what I said from the beginning of the month. No one will care about Christmas afterward and the irresponsibility of lifting restrictions will not have been worth it as people will see.

Have you more than one days evidence cases are on the way up? Lower cases than 8 days ago by the way

KaneToad · 13-12-2020 09:41PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

If the vaccine stops transmission, then even if only 20% of us have had it by summer it could be a game changer.

If it doesn't, then it'll probably be a bit of a slog for a while.

The other big thing to pray for is an early and decent spring. I'm pretty gloomy about that prospect though, with good reason.

This is the big unknown, currently. The vaccine may stop you getting the disease but might not stop you passing it on. It could be the 'syptomless' carrier scenario all over again.

Hopefully not.

Beasty · 13-12-2020 09:42PM

The_Brood wrote: »

If they keep reporting lower numbers I think its evidence of mass scale manipulation of numbers by the government. You cant have whats happening in Dublin and not be in the 1000s soon.

Please keep your conspiracy stuff to yourself - it's not allowed in this forum, and is specifically mentioned as not to be posted in the OP warnings in this thread

Any questions PM me - do not respond to this warning in thread

BobbyMalone · 13-12-2020 09:46PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

There will be no concerts, festivals or nightclubs in 2021. People need to be mature now and face reality.

Nobody knows what's coming down the line, certainly not beyond 6 months or thereabouts. The UK already have (limited) people at sporting events- with a vaccine here, rolled out efficiently, we might very well have gigs back in some form by the end of summer/autumn.

ACitizenErased · 13-12-2020 09:51PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

Massive mistake. The damage come January is going to be horrific. Most won't care though as they are selfish and just want their life back to normal. The Me generation.

What does this even mean? Everything is 'grim', 'horrific'???
What could possibly be more grim/horrific than everything we've already seen? I can think of absolutely nothing

Spanish Eyes · 13-12-2020 09:51PM

ElJeffe wrote: »

Massive mistake. The damage come January is going to be horrific. Most won't care though as they are selfish and just want their life back to normal. The Me generation.

It will be fine. No flu identified. That was always a klaxon for the trolley watch

But January is yet to come I suppose.

ACitizenErased · 13-12-2020 09:51PM

Everyone was freaking about the flu as well yet here we are

SCOOP 64 · 13-12-2020 09:53PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

What does this even mean? Everything is 'grim', 'horrific'???
What could possibly be more grim/horrific than everything we've already seen? I can think of absolutely nothing

Bon jovi getting No1 at Christmas.

TonyMaloney · 13-12-2020 09:54PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Everyone was freaking about the flu as well yet here we are

Yes. Because of the restrictions we applied (that you were against), to combat the rapidly rising cases (that you said wouldn't happen).

ACitizenErased · 13-12-2020 09:55PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Yes. Because of the restrictions we applied (that you were against), to combat the rapidly rising cases (that you said wouldn't happen).

Who said I'm against restrictions? Don't be silly. Wrong thread for that.

Beasty · 13-12-2020 09:58PM

I really struggle to understand why some people place so much emphasis on single day figures. They can be distorted by all sorts of factors. The 7 and 14 day averages remain low and stable. I would expect them to increase on the back of easing of restrictions, but that does not mean we will automatically end up back where we were when Level 5 restrictions were applied in October. We are currently experiencing levels of infection of not much more than a quarter of what they were back in October

TonyMaloney · 13-12-2020 09:59PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Who said I'm against restrictions? Don't be silly. Wrong thread for that.

Well I didn't anyways.
And I'm referencing things you said right here.

And you will never, ever make me visit that thread

ACitizenErased · 13-12-2020 09:59PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Well I didn't anyways.
And I'm referencing things you said right here.

And you will never, ever make me visit that thread

I'm on about the conspiracy forum because you're spouting fairytales.

13-12-2020 10:02PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Well I didn't anyways.
And I'm referencing things you said right here.

And you will never, ever make me visit that thread

Do visit that thread once in while to remind ourselves that in the main despite differences most in this thread are genuine, but leave before it destroys your soul.

alentejo · 13-12-2020 10:02PM

Beasty wrote: »

I really struggle to understand why some people place so much emphasis on single day figures. They can be distorted by all sorts of factors. The 7 and 14 day averages remain low and stable. I would expect them to increase on the back of easing of restrictions, but that does not mean we will automatically end up back where we were when Level 5 restrictions were applied in October. We are currently experiencing levels of infection of not much more than a quarter of what they were back in October

Because its the numbers. Numbers either rise or fall and sometimes remain static for a few weeks. I suspect we have gone from a peak in October to falling numbers in late November. The numbers have been static for 2 to 3 weeks, and they will now rise.
Higher numbers, larger transmission, eventually more hospitalizations and eventually more deaths. Deaths start with rises in daily numbers

TonyMaloney · 13-12-2020 10:04PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I'm on about the conspiracy forum because you're spouting fairytales.

Apologies if I have it wrong, but I recall you losing the rag at Holohan prior to level 3.

To wit you called him power mad or something like that, as he was recommending tight restrictions.

TonyMaloney · 13-12-2020 10:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Do visit that thread once in while to remind ourselves that in the main despite differences most in this thread are genuine, but leave before it destroys your soul.

I think I'll just take your word for it

What do you see happening in January, raind? Are you still of a sunny disposition?

ACitizenErased · 13-12-2020 10:10PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Apologies if I have it wrong, but I recall you losing the rag at Holohan prior to level 3.

To wit you called him power mad or something like that, as he was recommending tight restrictions.

I don't like Holohan yeah, and his level 5 was rejected.
That does not mean I am anti-restrictions, bizarre conclusion.

Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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