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BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,152 ✭✭✭26000 Elephants


    Mini850 wrote: »

    I actually miss my 147. had the worst gear linkage I've ever experienced in a car, but the steering was quick....once you had decent suspensions bushings.

    I had a 156 with terribly sloppy gear change too- but i found a kit on ebay for about a tenner with 4 plastic bushes and a metal clip - absolutely transformed it. Fiddly to fit, but was worth it. It was the first thing i did to the next Alfa.

    As for the airbag covers, you should see what the sun in the south of Spain does to them after a few years. Nearly get your hand in behind them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,971 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I had a 156 with terribly sloppy gear change too- but i found a kit on ebay for about a tenner with 4 plastic bushes and a metal clip - absolutely transformed it. Fiddly to fit, but was worth it. It was the first thing i did to the next Alfa.

    Jesus I had the same. You had to pretty much guess and feed the gear change.
    Never bothered repairing it as I got used to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,561 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    bear1 wrote: »
    Jesus I had the same. You had to pretty much guess and feed the gear change.
    Never bothered repairing it as I got used to it.

    Dial a gear, reverse was a nightmare, was great crack seeing someone else trying to drive it:pac: (Fiat 128)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    bear1 wrote: »
    Never drove a twin Spark but heard they love being revved


    Had a 2 litre 1998 156 , the redline was 8500ish rpm
    . Fun to drive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭TigerTim


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    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/seat-leon-1-4-nct-and-tax/25823634

    Clean looking Seat Leon NCT end of Feb & tax end of April. Don't know much about these but if bought for around 500 , it would tide you over. Will the Covid extension apply to the NCT?.

    T.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭TigerTim


    NmEyODc2NmVkZWQ2Y2Y3YjhhNDc4ODlmODkwZjhhYjfg_wqtH2_Y58x15BqYQgXMaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xNTk5NDEzMDJ8fHwxMjAweDEyMDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2009-ford-fusion-1-4-petrol-taxed-amp-nctd/25756872

    2009 Ford Fusion, NCT Jan 2021. €1950. Alloys are in sh!te. Been watching this car for a while & price has been dropping. Might be still too dear. Bought Mrs T's current Bangernomics Ford C-Max from this dealer just over a year ago.

    T.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Upper end of Bangernomics budget for basically a 12 year old car with no NCT doesn't seem like great value.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,973 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    Wheels are in bits, gutless 1.4, nct due in a few weeks time and its one of the more ugly cars Ford have made in the last 20 yrs imo.

    If it had to be a 10+ yr old cheap Ford I'd rather go for a Focus. Something like this https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-2009-1-4-new-nct-1-22-170km-taxed/26733207


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    ek motor wrote: »
    Had a 2 litre 1998 156 , the redline was 8500ish rpm
    . Fun to drive

    They're a grand revy engine but they'll not do 8500rpm. I think limiter is around 7k or a bit below.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    They're a grand revy engine but they'll not do 8500rpm. I think limiter is around 7k or a bit below.

    I was thinking this but never said anything. 8500 seemed awful high touching ek9 territory.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭scottigael


    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,973 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    scottigael wrote: »
    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?

    I'm more of a Jap car guy myself so i've never actually owned a Focus but as far as I know that 1.4 is a bit under-powered but simple and reliable. You'd probably get it for a bit less that the asking price too. You could do a lot worse for the money.

    I'm sure someone here has owned one of them so hold tough and you'll get some better advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,695 ✭✭✭DeepBlue


    scottigael wrote: »
    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?
    Bear in mind that the annual tax for that Focus is a €570 and not the €385 listed in the advert.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 279 ✭✭scottigael


    Thanks for feedback lads sneaky on that car tax bit alright.Thoughts on this Focus 1.6 tdci ? Is the mileage too high?

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2008-ford-focus-tdci-style/26738440

    Was also considering an i10 or i30 maybe but don't see too many on DD


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭TigerTim


    Wheels are in bits, gutless 1.4, nct due in a few weeks time and its one of the more ugly cars Ford have made in the last 20 yrs imo.

    My bad, for some reason I thought it had 1 years NCT. 2021 just a few weeks away

    T.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    scottigael wrote: »
    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?

    See what you will get insured on 1st.

    Go onto donedeal, pull a few cars and reg put in and see.

    I'd recommend either small such as Yaris or Aygo or similar like i10/20,

    Renault Clio or megane it all depends on your driving needs such as city or long commute etc etc.

    1.5 DCI is 200 on chape tax. Cars can be picked up cheap and reliable cars even though people will say otherwise bug that was the older stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,308 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    scottigael wrote: »
    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?
    If you mean this one;
    If it had to be a 10+ yr old cheap Ford I'd rather go for a Focus. Something like this https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/ford-focus-2009-1-4-new-nct-1-22-170km-taxed/26733207
    It was purchased by a dealer on 22/10/2020, but is selling it on DoneDeal as a Private Seller. Have someone look at the car before you buy it.

    =-=

    Check with mates on who they're insured with, and ring their insurance companies to see what you can get insured on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    scottigael wrote: »
    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?

    That Seat Leon on the last page looks decent. Nice starter car anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    scottigael wrote: »
    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?

    Kot very powerful, but my lad had one as a first car like yourself a year or 2 ago, and wss ideal - was (relatively) easy to insure, good deal less than an Auris or Golf of similar age. Simple wagon, reliable enough too.


  • Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    scottigael wrote: »
    In the market for a starter car lads as just recently passed my full licence, have 1 year no claims bonus as named driver under my belt so any banger recommendations? Would that focus posted above be worth it?

    Foci tend to be cheap to insure but honestly it's a crapshoot. When I passed my test it was cheaper to get insured on Saabs than Pandas, makes total sense right? I also went for the 1.8tdci Focus instead of the 1.6 because it was way cheaper to insure. Came back to bite me because it's a piece of **** engine as it turns out. :pac: The specific model (bit of chrome trim) on certain cars can double a quote for some reason as well. Also anything over 10 years tends to shoot up in insurance price so bear that in mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,110 ✭✭✭johndaman66


    Motor insurance in particular can seem to work in a peculiar manner. The Actuaries set rates based on the accident/ claim rates for particular models also - almost the computer says yes, computer says no type scenario if you will. All the while companies will target certain demographics/ try to build or scale back their book which can figure in it all. Most of us have probably being in a situation where someone said to you to try such and such company, they were by far the best for me. When you try them it may well be the case that they are the worst for you.

    Re that Focus though on the face of it I would not be too keen to get into a Ford having that high a mileage on it. Certainly without a fully documented, on time every time service history. I base that on experience of Fords in the wider family and friends. High mileage never tended to be kind to them. Like that and everything else though it could be down to bad lack or all of them per chance having had a poor life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 548 ✭✭✭ek motor


    They're a grand revy engine but they'll not do 8500rpm. I think limiter is around 7k or a bit below.

    I was mistaken, you are bang on its 7k (did a Google image search). I do remember doing 0 to 60mph in 2nd gear though !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭dublin runner


    A banger update:

    https://touch.adverts.ie/car/seat/leon/seat-leon-12-months-tax-bargain/21637396

    Bought for 650. It flew through the NCT last week. No work done yet, just an airbag sensor that needs doing asap. I think you can always spot a decent car from the advert and a quick chat with the owner over the phone. We called about a few cars that week and it is pretty easy to spot the jokers vs. a decent honest seller.

    The car also came with all the service and repair receipts over its 15 year life. An enjoyable read if you are into that sort of thing - also another great sign of an honest car and seller.

    A great second car and one for the dog. Love that fact you can buy, tax and NCT a car for the price of a decent phone!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Nice one! That looks like a very nice example from the pictures alone. Best of luck with it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,049 ✭✭✭kaizersoze


    A banger update:

    https://touch.adverts.ie/car/seat/leon/seat-leon-12-months-tax-bargain/21637396

    Bought for 650. It flew through the NCT last week. No work done yet, just an airbag sensor that needs doing asap. I think you can always spot a decent car from the advert and a quick chat with the owner over the phone. We called about a few cars that week and it is pretty easy to spot the jokers vs. a decent honest seller.

    The car also came with all the service and repair receipts over its 15 year life. An enjoyable read if you are into that sort of thing - also another great sign of an honest car and seller.

    A great second car and one for the dog. Love that fact you can buy, tax and NCT a car for the price of a decent phone!

    Jeez that looks tidy alright. Well wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭Notch000


    is that he same engine as the 1.4 in a golf mk4 ? My brother ran one for year, it was soo gutless i wasnt sure there wasnt somehting actually wrong with it. used tons of oil too, V nice car on the eye tho, good buy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,051 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Notch000 wrote: »
    is that he same engine as the 1.4 in a golf mk4 ? My brother ran one for year, it was soo gutless i wasnt sure there wasnt somehting actually wrong with it. used tons of oil too, V nice car on the eye tho, good buy
    Jesus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,561 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Notch000 wrote: »
    is that he same engine as the 1.4 in a golf mk4 ? My brother ran one for year, it was soo gutless i wasnt sure there wasnt somehting actually wrong with it. used tons of oil too, V nice car on the eye tho, good buy

    That engine can be an absolute dog of a yoke once it gets over 200K, Octavia's suffer the same fate...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,499 ✭✭✭Interslice


    A strange one i've noticed with that era of petrol vag is running 2 sepearate coolant temp sensors, one for the ecu and another for the dash. The ecu sensor regularly fails but only throws a code on very decent scanners, or vagcom on a laptop, leaving the engine fuel mix set to stone cold all the time. Running rich like that for a long time wrecks the engine and the cat. It's the same on the diesels but it doesn't cause the same problems.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,308 ✭✭✭✭wotzgoingon


    Interslice wrote: »
    A strange one i've noticed with that era of petrol vag is running 2 sepearate coolant temp sensors, one for the ecu and another for the dash. The ecu sensor regularly fails but only throws a code on very decent scanners, or vagcom on a laptop, leaving the engine fuel mix set to stone cold all the time. Running rich like that for a long time wrecks the engine and the cat. It's the same on the diesels but it doesn't cause the same problems.

    My car has two separate cooling temp sensors one for ecu and another for dash.


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