Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

mahoney_j wrote: »

The online bb audit was very straight forward your sent a self explanatory link with what to do pictures needed etc proably took 2 hours to get everything together and uploaded .herd app was a gift for it I’d say 15/20 minutes tops in phone to auditor

I was over an hour on the phone

See it is now law that you can't have a water trough within 20m of a water course. All based on teagasc "expert" advice. So much for investing in a whole farm water system. Another stupid regulation. My father summed it up beautifully for me today. He said teagasc will keep on at it until the farmer has nothing left. Man has seen enough of the **** over the years.

straight wrote: »

See it is now law that you can't have a water trough within 20m of a water course. All based on teagasc "expert" advice. So much for investing in a whole farm water system. Another stupid regulation. My father summed it up beautifully for me today. He said teagasc will keep on at it until the farmer has nothing left. Man has seen enough of the **** over the years.

We have 5 fields here totaling 20 acres that we can't abide by the above rule along with 2km of roadways with water running both sides so we should by the letter of the law just house the cows fulltime and forget about grazing altogether

raindodger wrote: »

the same

Me too.

mahoney_j wrote: »

Did that 2 day course for dero this week on environment ,sustainability etc dero tbf very interesting went thru thinks like above and roadways sloping away from watercourses etc to keep dero and protect water quality it’s what we have to do or there will be even more penal stuff bought in
One thing that came up was a game changer of sorts from a tegasc advisor it was on Fertliser application and more importantly early and late applications we have to move away from been the first lad hooked up on 12 janurary to go with urea no point spreading till soil temps are right (7 degrees snd rising)wasn’t a dairy advisor tho !!!beef and ASsap programe co ordinate

Alot of it makes sense but the water trough one doesn't. Cows are going to congregate at the gap anyway.

straight wrote: »

Alot of it makes sense but the water trough one doesn't. Cows are going to congregate at the gap anyway.

To be clear it was to move troughs 20 m I think away from bank of river or watercourse /drain to prevent any run off that may accumulate around it and enter the watercourse

mahoney_j wrote: »

What’s the betting tho there will be advice on the journal and elsewhere mid janurary to get those 23 units out a lot of farmers have moved away and wait till February or until there is heat to support growth

I think you're the same vintage as myself and I'd say you got the same ag education. The education then was grass grows above 6c and clover 8c soil temperature.
It's only lately these past few years there's been advice to have such amount of units out by such a date.
Now that I could never understand. You can never farm by dates only by what's in front of you.

Anyway even the so called experts are still learning about soil life and soil nitrogen fixation and nitrogen carbon relationships and legume carbon relationships. When we've all popped our clogs they'll still be learning.

Edit: I didn't see that post above by elemer fudd when I posting this and the remark made about popping clogs is in poor taste. But we'll all unfortunately be heading the one way but hopefully the post by elemer makes us think more about not making that a sooner destination.

mahoney_j wrote: »

To be clear it was to move troughs 20 m I think away from bank of river or watercourse /drain to prevent any run off that may accumulate around it and enter the watercourse

That's right. They can't be within 20m of a blue line in your osi map. Mine are generally at the gap where the cows enter/ exit the field. And they are stoned around them. I won't be moving them out the field. Theres only about 2 affected.

Saw that video the other day. It's hard viewing but a must watch at the same time.

Here's an uplifting video I've just seen and a good message too. Never knew the funky farmer was so old school. Straw on the cubicles, old parlour, spotless cows and a happy farmer. Seems like a sound man.
https://youtu.be/Gg7_nvrsPc4

Farney Farmer wrote: »

What type of meal do ya’s feed to weanling heifers? Heifer nut? Beef nut? Dairy nut??

heifer rearer nut 20%p

orm0nd wrote: »

heifer rearer nut 20%p

Me too. Sometimes it comes as 18 and sometimes 20.

Farney Farmer wrote: »

What type of meal do ya’s feed to weanling heifers? Heifer nut? Beef nut? Dairy nut??

Using Kieran milling heifer development nut last few years here 22% protein Very happy with it 2kg/day will cut them back in the new year

whelan2 wrote: »

I was over an hour on the phone

I was over an hour id say and had everything uploaded and the online questions filled