US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

So much winning continues. The Wisconsin recount demanded by Trump has resulted in Biden gaining votes

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/28/joe-biden-gains-votes-in-wisconsin-county-after-trump-ordered-recount

It’s a bad sign when one of the judges appointed under your term(and in trumps mind that means on his side) basically laughed his case out of the courtroom. You’d think if there was actual fraud on any scale they’d argue that in court documents, but they don’t, they yell it from upon high outside the court but then inside don’t allege it at all. It might have been here but Sidney Powell redacted the name of the person she alleges was a witness to fraud. I mean surely that’d be the one thing you wouldn’t redact. It’s a joke at this stage except I can’t imagine Americans find it that funny.

It looks like the Trumpists in the GOP are still forging ahead with the attempted election of POTUS Donald via the Plan B, previously outlined. Despite having been knocked back every single time in Courts all across the so-called battleground States, Pennsylvania legislators are proceeding with a resolution to have the Presidential Election nullified and allow the State legislature to decide its slate of electors for the Electoral College vote next month.

Following the alleged 'hearing' in Gettysburg this week, which was really only a bat**** crazy presser, PA GOP legislators were invited to the White House to meet Trump. The content of that meeting has not been disclosed, but 2 days later, State Senator Mastriano proposed the resolution. A mirror is being prepared for the PA House.

The resolution itself is based on all the bolloxology previously thrown out of courts, and it seeks to have the Governor and Sec of State withdraw any certifications and allow the legislature to decide who goes to the EC. Of course, the Gov/SoS won't do that; but, thats not what Plan B wants. Once the resolution is passed, and rejected by the Gov/SoS, it will give Mastriano and his ilk the platform to argue that the elections are in dispute, and Article II of the Constitution can be invoked. Now, you may well say, its off the wall and hasn't a prayer. But Plan B is a Hail Mary that depends on all the losses in Court and the kerrrrazy Sidney Powell cases that can't succed either, being used to give Rep legislatures the cover to ignore certification.

In my mind, Trumpists have been aiming for such a denial of certification, ever since Nov 5. I had hoped Plan B would have been made impossible by now; sadly, it still remains on the table and is still being actively worked on, with the passive and silent 'wait and see' stance of most GOP Congress- men/women. While its chances of succeeding are low, its continued existence is creating a deep wound that will be very hard to heal.

TomOnBoard wrote: »

That's not the point at all. Anyone with a titter of wit at this stage (obviously this excludes the likes of Rudey and Jenna Ellis) can see that Plan B is doomed to failure. The point I am making is not that it will succeed, but that it is still being played out and is being supported by the GOPpers in Congress (with very few exceptions), either by public support for it by some, or by silence from the rest of them. The Congressional GOP complicity is made exponentially worse when one sees the extent to which many Trump voters actually believe the BS that underpins Plan B, and will believe that the election was stolen from Trump (it wasn't) and that the Democrats perpetrated a major fraud (they didn't), for years to come. That, coupled with the ongoing grift that is robbing them blind through demands for donations to fund the legal 'actions', is setting the USA up for internal political chaos, and hatreds that will not just disappear when Trump leaves the White House. The already difficult landscape that is about to be inherited by the Biden/Harris Presidency is being poisoned more and more every day by treacherous undermining of its electoral system, its Government and its judiciary.

I wonder are GOP people operating under some broad strategy, or are they all working in clusters or of their own devices in determining whether or not to support Trump/Giuliani/Powell or a combination of them and others?

Politics in the US, in spite of the dominance of the Democrat and Republican Party is hard to decipher in terms of an overarching Party policy as opposed to the personal interests of dominant players within both parties. Understandable to a degree given the size and variation of the country but they are much less cohesive units than what we see in Ireland or in the UK for example.

You can only imagine what is going on in group chats and text messages of some of the key players. Whatever about Hunter Biden's laptop, the security and encryption on Mitch McConnell's or Lyndsey Graham's or Nancy Pelosi's cell phones mush be pretty robust. I imagine the market within some circles for the content of such devices would be pretty valuable.

A progressive organisation is targeting Trump voters in Georgia:

https://twitter.com/CursedLavaLamp/status/1333597793739534338

serfboard wrote: »

That's a very clever ad - splitting the GOP between Trumpists and everyone else. Given the "stab-in-the-back" mythology that Trumpists will be going on with now the message is - your messiah has been betrayed by your tribal elders, so now is your chance to punish those elders for their treachery.

Get as many abstentions or spoilt votes with trump written on them as you can from Trump voters.

josip wrote: »

Are spoiled votes enumerated in the US?
If they were, that would be a motivation for Mr. T.

Two fingers at the GOP, and if they're quantifiable number, how many are loyal to trump and not the GOP