TomOnBoard wrote: » That's not the point at all. Anyone with a titter of wit at this stage (obviously this excludes the likes of Rudey and Jenna Ellis) can see that Plan B is doomed to failure. The point I am making is not that it will succeed, but that it is still being played out and is being supported by the GOPpers in Congress (with very few exceptions), either by public support for it by some, or by silence from the rest of them. The Congressional GOP complicity is made exponentially worse when one sees the extent to which many Trump voters actually believe the BS that underpins Plan B, and will believe that the election was stolen from Trump (it wasn't) and that the Democrats perpetrated a major fraud (they didn't), for years to come. That, coupled with the ongoing grift that is robbing them blind through demands for donations to fund the legal 'actions', is setting the USA up for internal political chaos, and hatreds that will not just disappear when Trump leaves the White House. The already difficult landscape that is about to be inherited by the Biden/Harris Presidency is being poisoned more and more every day by treacherous undermining of its electoral system, its Government and its judiciary.
Tell me how wrote: » I wonder are GOP people operating under some broad strategy, or are they all working in clusters or of their own devices in determining whether or not to support Trump/Giuliani/Powell or a combination of them and others? Politics in the US, in spite of the dominance of the Democrat and Republican Party is hard to decipher in terms of an overarching Party policy as opposed to the personal interests of dominant players within both parties. Understandable to a degree given the size and variation of the country but they are much less cohesive units than what we see in Ireland or in the UK for example.You can only imagine what is going on in group chats and text messages of some of the key players. Whatever about Hunter Biden's laptop, the security and encryption on Mitch McConnell's or Lyndsey Graham's or Nancy Pelosi's cell phones mush be pretty robust. I imagine the market within some circles for the content of such devices would be pretty valuable.
DubInMeath wrote: » Arizona and Wisconsin certify for Biden.
dogbert27 wrote: » At what stage do the rats jump the sinking ship and try to save themselves? If the EC certify Biden will Trump give up on the law suits or will can he try to get the Supreme Court to overturn the EC? He said yesterday the world was laughing at the US for Biden winning a fraud election.He's completely out of touch with reality if he believes that's the reason the world is laughing at the US right now. :rolleyes:
dogbert27 wrote: » Trumps campaign lawyer saying Chris Krebs should be executed for stating the election was secure.https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9003843/Trumps-campaign-lawyer-says-fired-cybersecurity-chief-Chris-Krebs-executed.html#comments It's almost Simpsonsesque that Trump and his team can say virtually anything they want or tweet anything they want without legal repercussions. This is weeks after a planned abduction on a governor and Fauci having to hire security for him and his family after attacks in the media from Trump and his people.
Quin_Dub wrote: » Sidney Powell retweeted this.. A call for the use of the Insurrection Act followed by Military tribunals. Variously his "team have been calling for people to be shot, beheaded or summarily jailed and now they are calling for a Military take over and a suspension of Democratic process. And yet with a few exceptions we have absolute silence from the elected GOP officials.
Brussels Sprout wrote: » A progressive organisation is targeting Trump voters in Georgia:https://twitter.com/CursedLavaLamp/status/1333597793739534338
Brussels Sprout wrote: » A progressive organisation is targeting Trump voters in Georgia
serfboard wrote: » That's a very clever ad - splitting the GOP between Trumpists and everyone else. Given the "stab-in-the-back" mythology that Trumpists will be going on with now the message is - your messiah has been betrayed by your tribal elders, so now is your chance to punish those elders for their treachery.
listermint wrote: » Get as many abstentions or spoilt votes with trump written on them as you can from Trump voters.
josip wrote: » Are spoiled votes enumerated in the US? If they were, that would be a motivation for Mr. T.
dogbert27 wrote: » At what stage do the rats jump the sinking ship and try to save themselves? If the EC certify Biden will Trump give up on the law suits or will can he try to get the Supreme Court to overturn the EC? He said yesterday the world was laughing at the US for Biden winning a fraud election. He's completely out of touch with reality if he believes that's the reason the world is laughing at the US right now. :rolleyes:
dogbert27 wrote: » It would be interesting to see the breakdown of the 70 mill plus who voted for Trump the personality and who voted for him because they vote Republicans because there does seem to be break in the party there.
DubInMeath wrote: » In Maine the military vote went mainly to Biden (>80% if memory serves me correctly). Traditionally especially in the officer class, the vote would be republican. I'm guessing calling people losers and blaming their families for giving you covid doesn't pay off, at least in Maine.
DubInMeath wrote: » If the EC vote as how the results have been certified he wouldn't have a case, imo, but open to correction. Personally I think he knows that getting the SC to rule in his favor is not going to happen. But if he will try (most likely will), depends on how much of a personal threat he sees the various state investigations and loan repayments due to his banks that losing the presidency will expose him to, and how much he can financially squeeze out of his believers in the remaining time he's got before being turned out of the Whitehouse. Also apart from throwing his toys out of the pram, the plan seems to be to do as much damage as possible until he is turned out. Be that appointing fools to various positions in the Pentagon, to screwing over the GOP for their apparent failure to have him elected (he has apparently tweeted that there is no point voting republican) and if you wanted to go full on conspiracy theory, inciting a civil war. I don't think the latter would happen, while it's easy for fools to write online that they are ready and waiting for his orders to take up arms in his cause, they wouldn't last five minutes against the coast guard never mind anyone else, but would make great candidates for the Darwin awards.
Brian? wrote: » Then will come the Trump 2024 exploratory committee that will rent massive amounts of spaces at Trump owned properties. He'll bleed his supporters for more money until 2023 and then not even run.
Brian? wrote: » Once the EC is done, he will jack all the nonsense in as he can't bleed his supporters for any more money. Then will come the Trump 2024 exploratory committee that will rent massive amounts of spaces at Trump owned properties. He'll bleed his supporters for more money until 2023 and then not even run.
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