Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

Irish Steve wrote: »

Hmmmmm, I wonder what the judgement on some of the posts in this thread will be in the fullness of time. In a few months even, there will likely be people who will read these threads and wonder at the sanity of some of the opinions that have been expressed. The internet has some serious questions to answer about the validity and accuracy of a considerable quantity of the content, made massively worse by search engines (are you listening Google) that present as answers multiple pages that contain something that might be close to the search term that has been entered.

And no, this is not a backhanded swipe at MrStuffins, it's an observation on the overall quality of some of the stuff that's been hitting this site over the last while, and this site is nowhere near as bad as some of the bigger offenders.

Yes, there has been some absolute rubbish posted. People calling for "vengeance", people calling for publicans to incite their customers to violence against the Gardai, people being accused of being paedophiles (for some weird reason) for having different opinions on restrictions.

Conspiracy theory stuff with people talking of "Power Grabs", claiming there's a shadowy plot to keep pubs closed forever, a plot to keep us all locked down in a bit of control us and take away our freedoms.

Outright Covid denial, where people are denying that the virus is real. Also, denying that the vaccine is real.

All found on this thread!

"Mehole" this, "Dr Death" that, "scientific waffle" the other.

It's all gone a bit creepy!

MOH wrote: »

Nobody's talking about night-long sessions ending in packed nightclubs.t.

I am, so case closed, somebody is. Now, what is your understanding of the legal definition of the difference between a nightclub and a "regular pub" with no restrictions and a nighclub? is it only the opening hours? and if so explain what difference that would those hours make to anybody? Do you think nightclubs should be open , do you think pubs with pre-covid restrictions should be open?

I have been in plenty of pubs that turn into, what I am told are "nightclubs" just because of opening hours (maybe there are other laws I am unaware of, like the meal laws that distinguish restaurants from pubs). Plenty here seem to be agreed that a "nightclub" (whatever that is) should not be allowed to open for now.

For anybody who thinks nightclubs should remain closed then what legal requirements do you thing should be in place if gardai are to be able to enter a premises at midnight on a friday and be able to say "this is not a pub, it's a nightclub and therefore illegal". Spell it clearly out in legal terms, of course a regular pub would not be "fully seated"

MOH wrote: »

I strongly doubt a meal is going to make a huge difference to how drunk somebody is after 1:45. .

excellent, walked yourself into it big time, yet again!!! so maybe you can be the sole person to answer what I have been asking repeatedly -the one you weaseled out of answering the last time yet again!

why do you think this law exists?

Children aged 15 and over, who are accompanied by their parent or guardian, can stay on the premises after 9:00 (10:00 pm from May to September) if they are attending a private function where a substantial meal is being served

Just knuckle down, let the boys get their few bob in December and back to level V in January 2021 --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0AoRkmj9YM

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

The community card gets played a lot when it’s the furthest thing from the truth. Surely this whole episode has shown you that community is long dead in this country.

Community is dead in Dublin, Limerick, cork etc I'd generally agree with that. But in rural Ireland people are trying their hardest to keep that sense of community spirit. And whether you like it or not the local pub (s) are a big part of that.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The amount of arseholes posting on this thread is unreal. It's just a few pints lads. Get over yourselves. Not being able to go to a pub when you want is not the worst thing that will ever happen to you in your lives.

Posted at 3am, how hypocritical. :pac:

Listening to the radio there are some really nasty pieces of work out there, suggesting people boycott businesses reopening. Just goes to show yet again that there's nothing like a global crisis for people to show you who they really are.

SB71 wrote: »

Can people please not keep referring to pubs as "wet pubs" whoever came up with that word along with the equally as cringe "staycation" deserves to be ridiculed, awful.

I never heard of them before this covid to be honest but don't see a problem in using the word to distnguish between them and the food pubs that can reopen. When the covid is gone the words wet pub will never be used again i imagine

SB71 wrote: »

It's not just a "few pints" to many, it's the difference between sitting in on your own 24/7 for many people most notably elderly people who might not have any family and the local pub is their only sanctuary, not just elderly people either, may people see the pubs as a lifeline, mental health,isiolation are all many factors,etc,etc so no it's most certainly not just a "few pints"

I keep hearing this argument about pubs being the only lifeline for those who need to get out and socialise.

That's absolute bullsh*t! Just because it's your preferred method of socialising, doesn't mean it's, in any universe, the only way people can socialise.

Gervais08 wrote: »

Says someone who has clearly never been alone for months at a time and needing simple human contact.

Is there anyone in the country who's been alone for months on end??

I went for a wander down the beach a few weeks back. There was about a six cars with elderly people in them, windows down, chatting to the person in the car next to them.

MrStuffins wrote: »

Just because it's your preferred method of socialising, doesn't mean it's, in any universe, the only way people can socialise.

Gervais08 wrote: »

Yes we get it, you hate pubs. You .... you ....

The pub-addicted people on the Boards are so inadequate

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

The disgusting thing is people using it for every single little thing and belittling the few who have real issues.

This.

It really shows the self-centred mentality of some people when they try to hijack the genuine problems of people to use them as a weapon to push their own agenda.

There are people suffering horrible issues with their mental health out there. It's disgusting to hijack this just because you want to have a few pints (which you can do next week by the way)