Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

Kermit.de.frog · 28-11-2020 10:35PM

pythonfoot wrote: »

Are we utter pricks for even entertaining the thoughts of flouting the restrictions and going ahead with it .

Yes, yes you are.

Micky 32 · 28-11-2020 10:42PM

pythonfoot wrote: »

I had an anniversary weekend trip booked for Dublin next weekend . Nice restaurant and hotel . Havent seen partner in 2 montHs. I’m travelling across country if I was to go. We had booked it ages ago and thought level 3 in December may not have been a thing .

Are we utter pricks for even entertaining the thoughts of flouting the restrictions and going ahead with it .

A lot of posters on these threads lack any sort of empathy or any human emotion whatsoever and are obsessed with the drama of the virus and nothing else. It’s not acceptable to have not seen your partner for 2 months. Go see him/her or find a way. Thankfully mine 10 km away ( and across the county border)lives on her own and she’s in my “ social bubble”

ThewhiteJesus · 28-11-2020 10:43PM

The rules are absolute bollo%#s so if it’s just you two and you both feel healthy id go for it, if you’ve waited 2 months you deserve it

normanoffside · 28-11-2020 10:46PM

pythonfoot wrote: »

I had an anniversary weekend trip booked for Dublin next weekend . Nice restaurant and hotel . Havent seen partner in 2 montHs. I’m travelling across country if I was to go. We had booked it ages ago and thought level 3 in December may not have been a thing .

Are we utter pricks for even entertaining the thoughts of flouting the restrictions and going ahead with it .

You're absolutely crazy to have waited 2 months.

You do know that there is such a thing as a 'support bubble' which was a valid excuse to travel cross country even through level 5?

If your partner is not your support bubble who else is?

Necro · 28-11-2020 10:48PM

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Threads merged

Plumbthedepths · 28-11-2020 10:50PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

Lighten up, Paddygreen added a little humour to the non stop misery and was never taken seriously by anyone bar a few over sensitive types.

I thought Paddy's over the top stuff was funny. It was really amusing to see one poster get upset at Paddy's comments yet the same poster trawled the net looking for the most obsure and worrying stuff they could find.

growleaves · 28-11-2020 10:54PM

I thought Paddy's over the top stuff was funny.

Yeah I thought it was great too. A brilliant satiric parody. This forum is in Social & Fun and in the very early threads there were loads of jokes and pure messing even though it was still possible it could be the New Black Death.

Necro · 28-11-2020 11:04PM

Mod:

I think we can move on from the discussion of banned posters now folks, take it to PM if you want to continue the discussion. Thanks

ACitizenErased · 28-11-2020 11:43PM

Thought this was fascinating.
For every COVID case in South Korea they identify 100 contacts.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-south-korea-traces-100-people-for-every-case-and-is-willing-to-share-expertise-with-uk-12143083

bb1234567 · 29-11-2020 12:31AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

You are totally missing the point here.
He's not talking about Paddy but the thread .
Paddy would be the sane one over there

It is an absolutely bizarre thread I didnt even post the news about retail sector sales increasing in 2020 there yesterday because a post like that would ,somehow, probably be construed as trolling because it would be so at odds with the way the rest of them are allowed to go on. I think it would actually drive several of the posters to hysterically enragement to see any even slightly hopeful news be posted that would put restrictions in an any way positive light. They would do their damnedest to tear it apart and somehow put a negative slant on it.

And apparently the people who are worried about covid are the negative doomers. The lack of self awareness is just stunning

Loafing Oaf · 29-11-2020 01:05AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

How do they not know what is happening in the rest of the world and the science of this pandemic?
Are they less educated than other states or is their information being censored by Republican biased media ?
I can't understand how healthcare workers in other states are up in arms over Trump's mishandling , but not here .

This article is the best explanation I've come across of the mindset in those states:
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n22/adam-shatz/why-go-high

Although Trump failed to deliver on his promise to revive American industry, he gave his followers the illusion of power, something they felt they’d been denied under Obama. He spoke powerfully to red America’s understanding of what it calls ‘freedom’...Today it means not having to take responsibility for other people or for the environment. Anti-taxation, deregulation, gun-ownership, ICE raids, Blue Lives Matter and environmental despoliation are its contemporary manifestations. The adherents of this ‘freedom’ don’t seek to build the country but to be left alone – even if it means dying of opioid addiction, or Covid-19. (This was what Mike Pence meant when, in response to a question about virus controls during his debate with Harris, he said that Trump trusts American families to ‘make choices in the best interest of their health’.)

ElJeffe · 29-11-2020 01:06AM

John O.Groats wrote: »

Absolutely. I find it amazing that anyone takes what the bulk of posters there spew out seriously. Thankfully there are a few sane posters there who do call out the utter BS, otherwise it would be a complete echo chamber.

It's an absolute madhouse on that thread. Actually frightening to see the lack of awareness of some posters.

growleaves · 29-11-2020 01:31AM

Relaxations thread has gone downhill a bit but it was great, especially during the first lockdown, to have people with strong and articulate views against the restrictions having an extended discussion where things could be fleshed out and all in one place.

Of course now people who doubt the restrictions can be found in every thread on the forum, including this one, so its not as unique.

Danno · 29-11-2020 01:43AM

When will the novelty of Covid-19 begin to wane?

I get the victim complex of today's society and how that feeds into this machine of harvesting case numbers. As a nation, we really haven't have much excitement since Bonner's save in '90 or the wall-to-wall coverage of 9/11.

Surely though, like everything - it runs it's course. When will Irish people in general begin to shun going for a Covid test and starve the NEPHET machine of its data?

Plumbthedepths · 29-11-2020 01:46AM

Danno wrote: »

When will the novelty of Covid-19 begin to wane?

I get the victim complex of today's society and how that feeds into this machine of harvesting case numbers. As a nation, we really haven't have much excitement since Bonner's save in '90 or the wall-to-wall coverage of 9/11.

Surely though, like everything - it runs it's course. When will Irish people in general begin to shun going for a Covid test and starve the NEPHET machine of its data?

First global pandemic response driven by Social Media.

Eivor · 29-11-2020 02:42AM

Danno wrote: »

When will the novelty of Covid-19 begin to wane?

I get the victim complex of today's society and how that feeds into this machine of harvesting case numbers. As a nation, we really haven't have much excitement since Bonner's save in '90 or the wall-to-wall coverage of 9/11.

Surely though, like everything - it runs it's course. When will Irish people in general begin to shun going for a Covid test and starve the NEPHET machine of its data?

I see Iran creeping back into the news. Maybe we’ll start focusing on ongoing wars and geopolitics again

WoollyRedHat · 29-11-2020 02:50AM

Any chance we can have a thread on discussion and another main thread for just numbers and updates?

Goldengirl · 29-11-2020 03:00AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

This article is the best explanation I've come across of the mindset in those states:
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n22/adam-shatz/why-go-high

Thanks, really interesting article , LO.
Scary though that such a high proportion of voting public in America could possibly be thinking that this is ok .

GazzaL · 29-11-2020 08:35AM

I'm amazed anyone is still taking the restrictions seriously. Most people I know are working flat out, haven't stayed within 5km of their home any day since "Level 5" began, have been in countless different homes and have had visitors from outside their own counties. Pro Tip: If you don't watch RTE, apart from wearing a mask, you can go about your business as normal and COVID is about as relevant as the war in Ethiopia.

zerosugarbuzz · 29-11-2020 09:06AM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Any chance we can have a thread on discussion and another main thread for just numbers and updates?

If we could just have numbers of deaths with ages and locations I’d be interested. Cases I’ve no interest in anymore, particularly asymptomatic cases.

Russman · 29-11-2020 10:12AM

Just wondering about all the ridiculing and laughing off of parts of govt (and others’) advice regarding gatherings at Christmas, now that things are opening up.
Does it not put a big hole in the argument for “open up and protect the vulnerable” that some people aren’t even willing to take such measures designed to protect the vulnerable, if it’s a bit inconvenient ? Seems to me it’s more a case of open up and the vulnerable can look after themselves.

fits · 29-11-2020 10:28AM

didyoufart? wrote: »

Cases rising in Kilkenny the last few days directly linked to a primary school, infected parents and passed onto their work colleagues.

I presume the adults will count as community transmission?

Can you pm me name of primary school ?

caveat emptor · 29-11-2020 11:17AM

Listening to an Irish professor (Adrian hill) involved in the oxford vaccine on rte1 radio. Said all the stuff about it being less efficacious is bull****. They lowered the first dose to stop people having adverse side effects. That worked and had an unintended consequence. It was more efficacious. 90%! He said spring summer back to normal. If that doesn’t cheer you up I don’t know what will !

jackboy · 29-11-2020 11:23AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Listening to an Irish professor (Adrian hill) involved in the oxford vaccine on rte1 radio. Said all the stuff about it being less efficacious is bull****. They lowered the first dose to stop people having adverse side effects. That worked and had an unintended consequence. It was more efficacious. 90%! He said spring summer back to normal. If that doesn’t cheer you up I don’t know what will !

If he said spring summer back to normal that would be irresponsible. Nobody can know that.

Cork2021 · 29-11-2020 11:40AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Listening to an Irish professor (Adrian hill) involved in the oxford vaccine on rte1 radio. Said all the stuff about it being less efficacious is bull****. They lowered the first dose to stop people having adverse side effects. That worked and had an unintended consequence. It was more efficacious. 90%! He said spring summer back to normal. If that doesn’t cheer you up I don’t know what will !

Caveat, it’s the first time I’ve thanked something you’ve said on boards!
That post has made me happy

MerlinSouthDub · 29-11-2020 11:41AM

jackboy wrote: »

If he said spring summer back to normal that would be irresponsible. Nobody can know that.

What is irresponsible about giving people hope? Hope which is based on science.

jackboy · 29-11-2020 11:46AM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

What is irresponsible about giving people hope? Hope which is based on science.

If not true that sort of opinion will be damaging. No one knows but the consensus among the Covid scientists is that it will be at least the second half of next year before the vaccine has a significant impact on reducing restrictions.

Remember early in the summer lots of scientists were saying that the vaccine would be rolled out in September. It just ****e talk.

MerlinSouthDub · 29-11-2020 11:52AM

jackboy wrote: »

No one knows but the consensus among the Covid scientists is that it will be at least the second half of next year before the vaccine has a significant impact on reducing restrictions.

Which scientists? What consensus? Sam Mcconkey doesn't count as a consensus. Dr Hill is as entitled as anyone to give his view, and he knows more about the vaccines than most.

ElJeffe · 29-11-2020 12:08PM

GazzaL wrote: »

I'm amazed anyone is still taking the restrictions seriously. Most people I know are working flat out, haven't stayed within 5km of their home any day since "Level 5" began, have been in countless different homes and have had visitors from outside their own counties. Pro Tip: If you don't watch RTE, apart from wearing a mask, you can go about your business as normal and COVID is about as relevant as the war in Ethiopia.

You keep repeating the same point over and over

is_that_so · 29-11-2020 12:18PM

jackboy wrote: »

If not true that sort of opinion will be damaging. No one knows but the consensus among the Covid scientists is that it will be at least the second half of next year before the vaccine has a significant impact on reducing restrictions.

Remember early in the summer lots of scientists were saying that the vaccine would be rolled out in September. It just ****e talk.

We've picked up an awful lot of COVID scientists during this, some may be experts in other areas but extraordinary spoofers on the virus. I'd be inclined to pay more attention to those developing vaccines than the off the top of the head guesswork by someone with lots of letters after their name. TBH this line of yours is quite puzzling, beyond wanting to be right or looking to drop an "I told you so". Approval seems imminent. That means 2-3 vaccines likely available from well before the end of the year in some places.

Covid 19 Part XXIX-85,394 ROI(2,200 deaths) 62,723 NI (1,240 deaths) (26/12) Read OP

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