New tv for series x

wotzgoingon · 23-11-2020 11:28pm

Hococop wrote: »

How are you finding it, was reading it might have blacklight blees, have you noticed it?

Mine has no backlight bleed. Tbh you will get no better for the price.

Mucashinto · 23-11-2020 11:35pm

Do better/more expensive Tvs make games look better in Game Mode?

Forgot what a dent to quality that has after using a monitor for so long. In fairness the Xbox auto-HDR improves some games considerably, but also makes some worse meaning I want to change it depending on the game. Ugh, what I am, some sort of 'change-settings slave'.

Nobody suffers as much as me :mad:

theteal · 24-11-2020 11:24am

Yes they do. Game mode generally disables processing features that add to input latency. Game mode will have no effect on the native spec of a TV that make it's display better than TVs with less spec e.g. colour gamut, dimming, processor etc.

Mucashinto · 24-11-2020 1:22pm

Ah okay thanks, that makes sense alright.

I went on a bit of a search last night and saw that high refresh VRR 43inch monitors are a thing. I'm guessing for watching Tv they're a bit worse (poorer HDR etc?) and more expensive for what you get but it's something I'd be tempted with tbh, hopefully they'll start getting more popular/coming down in price.

recyclops · 25-11-2020 11:57am

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I was thinking that too before I bought it but it is 120Hz.

Here.

Excellent stuff nabbed this today on richersounds, around 650 delivered cant go wrong really

brady12 · 25-11-2020 1:11pm

recyclops wrote: »

Excellent stuff nabbed this today on richersounds, around 650 delivered cant go wrong really

Can’t see any negative to this tv I will have pull the trigger on it over weekend

Hococop · 25-11-2020 2:19pm

Might buy the 55' of this tv the weekend aswell

recyclops · 25-11-2020 4:13pm

recyclops wrote: »

Excellent stuff nabbed this today on richersounds, around 650 delivered cant go wrong really

haha so turns out it wasnt bought by richersounds as they called to say its out of stock

after calling to take payment. Say they will call in a few days to confirm more stock

Just looked at my set up i cant stretch to the 55 with current placement sadly

Hococop · 25-11-2020 9:45pm

Actually if I'm getting the 55' provided it's in stock, can anyone recommend a tv stand to get?

Fiftyfilthy · 26-11-2020 11:35am

I bought a Sony 55 2 years ago
Kd55xf87

4k hdr but only 60hz or maybe 50 hz, can’t remember

Was thinking of maybe buying a 32 inch monitor or something

Any suggestions as can’t justify replacing the tv after less than 2 years

Hurrache · 26-11-2020 4:37pm

Hurrache wrote: »

I was tempted by the Sonos Arc, but then I've started seeing good reviews for the Sony HT-G700 which is half the price.

The Sony HT-G700 has dropped to €350 in a few places now.

26-11-2020 5:44pm

Stupid question, perhaps, but do you need a specific high-speed HDMI 2.0 or 2.1 cable to maximise everything or is there even such a thing?

wotzgoingon · 26-11-2020 5:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Stupid question, perhaps, but do you need a specific high-speed HDMI 2.0 or 2.1 cable to maximise everything or is there even such a thing?

Yes you need a different HDMI cable for 2.1 but the one bundled with the Xbox Series X is one of those cables so no need to buy another.

joe123 · 26-11-2020 8:34pm

Many in here take the plunge yet with the LG CX? Im wondering what brightness levels are like around 40 and if youve activated the Logo dimmer. Does it work well as in, properly dim the logo but not impact the rest of the picture quality?

druss · 27-11-2020 12:45pm

Black Friday looks like Harvey Norman has a slight edge for tv deals.

LG65CX is €1999 and comes with free LG TFN6 Earbuds worth €149.

Samsung QE65Q95T is going for €1949 and comes with a free Samsung HW-S60T Soundbar (listed as €339 and offer today only). A further €100 off possible, if a friend is buying a similar tv.

If I could persuade them to offset the free sound bar against a better spec one, I might yet go for the Samsung. But assume this is unlikely or would have to stick in Samsung ecosystem.

Yesterdays plan was LG tv plus Sonos Arc or LG tv plus LS SN11 Soundbar (Currys for €849, down from €1799!).

So indecisive!

27-11-2020 2:04pm

Anyone buying an AV receiver to go with the series X should be careful. Series X has a hardware incompatibility with Panasonic chips. Its a hardware issue and is not fixable through a firmware patch: https://youtu.be/e4N95PynVh8 The fault lies with the chips and Xbox are not to blame, but they have fallen victim to it none the less.

There are also audio issues because series X outputs dolby atmos using pcm, with many modern soundbars and receivers only support stereo PCM. I have fallen victim to this one having bought a Samsung soundbar. I've no series X yet (Gamestop nuff said) but very disappointing to find out my top of the range atmos setup is not compatible with series X.

joe123 · 27-11-2020 5:00pm

So took the plunge with the Samsung Q95T - its currently at 1399 euro, same price as the Q90T.

Soundbar included.

If anyone here has bought qled from richersounds let me know and we can both avail of the refer a friend claim which will get us 100 euro off.

Tommyboy87 · 27-11-2020 5:12pm

joe123 wrote: »

So took the plunge with the Samsung Q95T - its currently at 1399 euro, same price as the Q90T.

Soundbar included.

If anyone here has bought qled from richersounds let me know and we can both avail of the refer a friend claim which will get us 100 euro off.

PM Sent

Hurrache · 27-11-2020 6:25pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There are also audio issues because series X outputs dolby atmos using pcm, with many modern soundbars and receivers only support stereo PCM. I have fallen victim to this one having bought a Samsung soundbar. I've no series X yet (Gamestop nuff said) but very disappointing to find out my top of the range atmos setup is not compatible with series X.

Can you not allow the TV to pass through the raw sound and allow the sound bar to decode it?

27-11-2020 7:04pm

Hurrache wrote: »

Can you not allow the TV to pass through the raw sound and allow the sound bar to decode it?

That's the problem, the soundbar can't decode it. It can only decode 2 channel stereo PCM. Series X outputs dolby atmos in multichannel (7 or more channels) PCM. Its not output as dolby atmos.

Atlas_IRL · 27-11-2020 7:32pm

I only had a small budget for a 4k tv so went with this one https://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/hd-tvs/all-tvs/samsung-50-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-smart-tv-ue50tu7100kxxu-2020.html

Will that be good for a few years of high quality or is 120hz really needed.

CatInABox · 27-11-2020 10:22pm

Atlas_IRL wrote: »

I only had a small budget for a 4k tv so went with this one https://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/hd-tvs/all-tvs/samsung-50-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-smart-tv-ue50tu7100kxxu-2020.html

Will that be good for a few years of high quality or is 120hz really needed.

No one needs 120Hz, not really. It's obviously going to be very nice to have, but it's in no way essential. A panel that'll do 60Hz will be more than adequate.

Homelander · 27-11-2020 10:47pm

It's like the PC gamers and the 144hz situation. It's a nice extra but realistically 95% of PC gamers, just like console gamers, are on 60hz and will be for the indefinite future.

The only things I would worry about on cheaper TV's is response times and black levels. I'm not saying cheap TV's have bad response times - I'm saying that it's probably the main thing I would look into.

Black level wise, some cheap panels also have awful crush on dark scenes as well.

27-11-2020 11:40pm

Atlas_IRL wrote: »

I only had a small budget for a 4k tv so went with this one https://www.harveynorman.ie/tvs-headphones/hd-tvs/all-tvs/samsung-50-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-smart-tv-ue50tu7100kxxu-2020.html

Will that be good for a few years of high quality or is 120hz really needed.

Games won't hit 120hz without switching off other features like 4k and graphical assets. Many people will choose not to use it with 6ofps doing just fine along with the other benefits.

28-11-2020 1:56am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's the problem, the soundbar can't decode it. It can only decode 2 channel stereo PCM. Series X outputs dolby atmos in multichannel (7 or more channels) PCM. Its not output as dolby atmos.

A Dolby Atmos soundbar is a gimmick man. To have true dolby atmos you need a receiver that costs more than the soundbar alone plus about 7 speakers including speakers in the roof.

I'm sitting here with 3 grands worth of speakers and receiver and I'm not even bothering to play in Dolby Atmos mode with my series X.

If you are using any kind of soundbar don't even bother with Atmos, they aren't up to the job in any kind of way, they are toys.

Edit- if anyone needs any TV advice or help setting up receivers for the Series X or s etc pm me and I will help.

28-11-2020 9:06am

Everleigh Victorious Television wrote: »

A Dolby Atmos soundbar is a gimmick man. To have true dolby atmos you need a receiver that costs more than the soundbar alone plus about 7 speakers including speakers in the roof.

I'm sitting here with 3 grands worth of speakers and receiver and I'm not even bothering to play in Dolby Atmos mode with my series X.

If you are using any kind of soundbar don't even bother with Atmos, they aren't up to the job in any kind of way, they are toys.

Edit- if anyone needs any TV advice or help setting up receivers for the Series X or s etc pm me and I will help.

I have satellite speakers, soundbar is just for the front. Sounds fantastic tbh for movies and TV and even just regular dts on ps4 its superb. Not as good as a 3k receiver of course.

Hococop · 28-11-2020 9:22am

Homelander wrote: »

It's like the PC gamers and the 144hz situation. It's a nice extra but realistically 95% of PC gamers, just like console gamers, are on 60hz and will be for the indefinite future.

The only things I would worry about on cheaper TV's is response times and black levels. I'm not saying cheap TV's have bad response times - I'm saying that it's probably the main thing I would look into.

Black level wise, some cheap panels also have awful crush on dark scenes as well.

Any tv you recommend ( one I was looking to get was out of stock) , thought 120hz was the way to go but if there is a better alternative could you recommend one, was looking around 800 mark

Hurrache · 29-11-2020 2:41pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's the problem, the soundbar can't decode it. It can only decode 2 channel stereo PCM. Series X outputs dolby atmos in multichannel (7 or more channels) PCM. Its not output as dolby atmos.

Just checked with my set up, the soundbar registers that it's receiving an Atmos steam when I set the sound output to it. Might be just that my soundbar can manage it.

Cyrus · 29-11-2020 3:01pm

Hurrache wrote: »

Just checked with my set up, the soundbar registers that it's receiving an Atmos steam when I set the sound output to it. Might be just that my soundbar can manage it.

So what settings are you using ?

Hurrache · 29-11-2020 5:34pm

I just set the HDMI audio out to Bitstream and selected Atmos as the format.

druss · 01-12-2020 9:59pm

joe123 wrote: »

So took the plunge with the Samsung Q95T - its currently at 1399 euro, same price as the Q90T.

Soundbar included.

If anyone here has bought qled from richersounds let me know and we can both avail of the refer a friend claim which will get us 100 euro off.

I bought the Samsung Q95T from Harvey Norman. I didn't get the soundbar, which most shops seemed to have burned though half way through Black Friday. I think richersounds also ran out.

If anyone has bought a Samsung QLED from Harvey Norman, I'm also looking for a friend to share €200 with!

joe123 · 02-12-2020 12:18pm

Unfortunately RS contacted me yesterday letting me know that after the order was taken, they didnt realise that they are out of stock so had to cancel the order. They offered another TV but it just wasn't as good.

I'll be back to them at some stage as they were very apologetic so I'll post back in here if I manage to pick up a Q90/95T before the offer ends.

Have to say I'm gutted now after so much research and finally taking the plunge, to end up with no TV before the Christmas.

druss · 02-12-2020 1:20pm

joe123 wrote: »

Unfortunately RS contacted me yesterday letting me know that after the order was taken, they didnt realise that they are out of stock so had to cancel the order. They offered another TV but it just wasn't as good.

I'll be back to them at some stage as they were very apologetic so I'll post back in here if I manage to pick up a Q90/95T before the offer ends.

Have to say I'm gutted now after so much research and finally taking the plunge, to end up with no TV before the Christmas.

That's a pity. In fairness, it looks like stocks took a real hammering with that free soundbar offer. I wanted to buy from RS on that day as well, but I didn't have funds sorted on the day. Not that I wanted that particular soundbar, but free is free and I could have sold it on.

I checked HN, but they are €200 more expensive for the 55 inch 95T. I went with the 65 inch one, as that is much the same price as RS were charging.

02-12-2020 2:17pm

Be careful with samsung promotional offers. I applied for a 50% cash back promotion on soundbars and was given the run around until eventually the offer expired and I was told sorry too late.

I've had my case reviewed and accepted with the small claims court and its off to court now to get my money back.

Atlas_IRL · 03-12-2020 9:51am

I was waiting a while for Harvey Norman to send me a click and collect email and was going to smyths in swords in airside so called into HM on the whim to check,
They said it was there and brought out a massive box, when I got home I released they gave me a 55inch instead of a 50inch happy days!

theteal · 08-12-2020 3:04pm

I just bought a soundbar that had 30% discount when purchased with a TV. So I opted for the XH90 which makes that purchase about 3 months sooner than I had planned - although may not be delivered until after xmas. No panic as we're still a couple of months away from an xbox purchase. Must keep a close eye on firmware update news.

09-12-2020 6:01pm

Who was it that said soundbars and Dolby Atmos are a gimmick??? Sweet Jesus someone must be deaf, this is fricking insane!!

theteal · 09-12-2020 7:50pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Who was it that said soundbars and Dolby Atmos are a gimmick??? Sweet Jesus someone must be deaf, this is fricking insane!!

Yeah I read that, I assume the poster meant cheaper bars with faux atmos without the actual upfiring speakers. An AVR and separates are always going to be better but will cost a fortune for a 5.1.4 setup - as well as a pain in the hoop for cabling. Some of these new bars have shown impressive performance. I've just bought the JBL 9.1 for about £525 so I'm not expecting world beating sound but it's very tidy solution and should be perfect for what's needed here.

10-12-2020 3:32pm

I've run into a bit of an issue with my OLED tv and wondering if anyone has similar issues.

It's an LG CX and there is a setting called "instant game response" (IGR) which reduces lag between button inputs and what's displayed on the screen, so I switched that on when I first booted up the Xbox.

Whenever I get a notification that this setting has been activated, however, the screen goes blank and says "no signal". The audio drops as well, unless I'm using my headset.

I can go into the settings and switch the IGR off or on, depending on what it's like at that time, and it comes back no problem, so it's a bit of a minor issue really. It doesn't seem to matter what state the on/off switch is showing, it happens every time I start up a game.

As I said, it's pretty minor, but having dropped the guts of 3k on everything, including having it mounted on the wall and everything, its fairly annoying. Also, the odd time while playing, the message comes up and the screen flickers to black for 3 seconds. I'm assuming this is just a byproduct of the main issue. If I can fix the first one, this should go too I'm guessing.

Has anyone encountered this issue and/or managed to get it resolved?

Muppet Man · 10-12-2020 4:48pm

Same TV, with Xbone and I get the IGR message too, but no issues with screen flickering. It does sound like a resolution issue mismatch or something. Have you the HDMI cable in the correct port in the back of the CX? I think only some of the HDMI ports are specific for game optimisation.

Hurrache · 10-12-2020 6:02pm

I don't get an issue with it either, I've never manually set it from the outset, I just let the TV worry about it. I didn't think there was a specific HDMI port for gaming though, they're all 2.1 with no differences as far as I'm aware.

wotzgoingon · 10-12-2020 6:07pm

I don't have a OLED but I do have a LG HDMI 2.1 Tv and I also get that instant game response notification when I start a game but I have no issues either.

Muppet Man · 10-12-2020 9:23pm

Sorry... might have sent you on a wild goose chase with the HDMI comment above. I had a look just there and it simply says 4k/120hz for all the HDMI ports. I think my HDMI 2 port is for Arc/eArc... which I'm not using. that probably confused me.

wotzgoingon · 10-12-2020 9:31pm

Muppet Man wrote: »

Sorry... might have sent you on a wild goose chase with the HDMI comment above. I had a look just there and it simply says 4k/120hz for all the HDMI ports. I think my HDMI 2 port is for Arc/eArc... which I'm not using. that probably confused me.

The LG I have only the two back ones are 120Hz the two side are standard 60Hz but as you said the OLED's are all 120Hz.

Hurrache · 10-12-2020 11:05pm

Yeah, there's 1 Arc/eARC which is different to the rest for audio equipment. God be the days when NICAM stereo speakers where the height of tech on TVs.

11-12-2020 1:54pm

Thanks for all the input, folks. I had read a bit more about this online after my post above, and one of the suggestions was to switch off one of the HDR settings. I'm in work now, but I'm fairly sure it was "Ultra HDR deep Colour" or something along those lines. I switched it off but then had to go do something else before I could test it. The good new is I played for about 3 hrs last night and I never even noticed that it didn't happen until I was switching it off.

I'll try switching it back on this evening and see if that confirms it.

Forgot to add: I found this page which gives pointers on the different settings.

Hococop · 16-12-2020 4:07pm

Unfortunately the LG 49NANO866NA wasn't in stock when the deal was on for me, (they could order In but have had bad experience before) and price is back up, is my best bet to wait for after Christmas sales or if anyone can recommend another tv for around that price (800-1k) it would be appreciated

wotzgoingon · 16-12-2020 5:00pm

What about this price? https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/lg-49nano866na-49-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-with-google-assistant-ama-49nano866na/version.asp

Hococop · 16-12-2020 5:11pm

wotzgoingon wrote: »

What about this price? https://www.laptopsdirect.ie/lg-49nano866na-49-smart-4k-ultra-hd-hdr-led-tv-with-google-assistant-ama-49nano866na/version.asp

Sorry was meant to type 55 inch one, was 750 at the time but back to 1000 now

17-12-2020 2:05pm

theteal wrote: »

Yeah I read that, I assume the poster meant cheaper bars with faux atmos without the actual upfiring speakers. An AVR and separates are always going to be better but will cost a fortune for a 5.1.4 setup - as well as a pain in the hoop for cabling. Some of these new bars have shown impressive performance. I've just bought the JBL 9.1 for about £525 so I'm not expecting world beating sound but it's very tidy solution and should be perfect for what's needed here.

Think that was me, no I meant any soundbar with Atmos. I'm comparing it to a full system with floorstanding speakers though so not really fair.

New tv for series x

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