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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • #8702
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Your taking me up the wrong way here.

    It was billed as 6 weeks, numbers came down, relax a little for a few weeks and most accept another short time period will be required for higher restrictions, I feel its inevitable either way really.

    But after 6 weeks you expect a little something to be given back and what NPHET want is crumbs realistically.

    If your not seen to give a little back you'll have rules broken anyway, no inter county travel to start with.

    Give a little for a few weeks you get more co operation back in return in January.

    You weren't saying anything beyond the pale and were more reasonable than most hence my reply to you. I see what you are saying. That's fair enough.

    Yeah It would be great if after the six weeks we had lower numbers. I guess the point I see is if we open up like august or whatever the numbers will increase at 4-5% per day and won't be long until we are back in lockdown. I think it's different than summer and we can't get the numbers down to those levels given human behaviour in the winter and the impact of cold / dry environments on the spread.

    Very hard either way. Everyone fed up. Blaming NEPHET for a recommendation is like blaming a doctor for telling you to give up smoking after a stroke. You can do it but it is unlikely to help your situation or outcome. It's as if some people hope that if we get rid of NPHET we'll be grand. No other country has NEPHET and they are not grand so I can't see any use in pummelling people who are just doing their job. Again I'm not saying you are saying this but it is the general tone on here of late.


  • #8703
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,751 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Ah maybe you missed the explanation as to how 1000 cases is a possibility.

    You had your theory which is a bit hazy and certainly lacking any data or numbers.......but hey you do you.



    But heres the mathematical explanation. You used to post some modified stats day by day so surely you could follow the below post helpfully explaining how its possible?






    Havent heard thousands for a few months but how it can reach a thousand is broken down by Benimar.


    There's zero formula given there, but whatever floats your boat, you do you.


  • #8704
    DulchieLaois
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 466 ✭✭DulchieLaois


    We had 6 weeks lockdown and yet cases are still high....obviously lockdown is not working


  • #8705
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    DulchieLaois wrote: »
    We had 6 weeks lockdown and yet cases are still high....obviously lockdown is not working

    so whats the solution then?

    Even more harder lockdown?


  • #8706
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    this thing starts ending in january when the at risk start getting vaccinated. that is actually going to happen. can people seriously not wait a few more months of no pints and keeping contacts to a minimum?

    what a shame for covid to end with a bang instead of a whimper.


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  • #8707
    Hulk Hands
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,023 ✭✭✭Hulk Hands


    eagle eye wrote: »
    No, the loudmouth alcoholics and spoilt little children in the bodies of adults are shouting loud but there many more than them that just want to be safe and not lose a loved one to this virus. Most people I'm talking to are planning to stay at home for Christmas. My sister is one of those spoilt little children in an adults body, she's going to my parents house regularly with her children from crèche and school.
    The rest of my family intend to go to the house on Christmas day but stay outside and chat to my parents, myself included.

    Funny how you took out the second part of my post, which specifically says it's the average previously pro-lockdown person who seems to be angry tonight

    Stop wishing your sad little idea of a Christmas on other people


  • #8708
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    BeefeaterHat wrote:
    I'm sure Tony will visit you on Christmas to tell you you're the best boy in the class and give you a gold star.

    Deleted User wrote:
    Did I miss your reply to my response?
    Yes I put it up.


  • #8709
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

      Thanks to the national mitigation measures.

      We need to keep up the good work though and redouble the efforts.

      Redouble the efforts of level 5 would be level 10?. How will that work? Shoot everyone , no host for the virus, prehaps?
      Surely some people are laughing as they hit send on the drivel they write.


    • #8710
      Arghus
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


      ACitizenErased wrote: »
      1000 per day by Christmas eve :D I swear some on here wear NPHET t-shirts. It’s alright lads, ye can disagree with Tony, he won’t hurt ya.

      Let's hope this one doesn't age badly.


    • #8711
      [Deleted User]
      Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


      froog wrote: »
      this thing starts ending in january when the at risk start getting vaccinated. that is actually going to happen. can people seriously not wait a few more months of no pints and keeping contacts to a minimum?

      what a shame for covid to end with a bang instead of a whimper.

      It's also arguable you are better off beginning a vaccination program when cases are low. Otherwise you might end up wasting a significant number of doses.


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    • #8712
      BeefeaterHat
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


      froog wrote: »
      this thing starts ending in january when the at risk start getting vaccinated. that is actually going to happen. can people seriously not wait a few more months of no pints and keeping contacts to a minimum?

      what a shame for covid to end with a bang instead of a whimper.

      I'd be very dubious of this ending in a couple of months. NPHET will find any old excuse to drag the arse out if this


    • #8713
      WoollyRedHat
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,462 ✭✭✭✭WoollyRedHat


      ACitizenErased wrote: »
      There's zero formula given there, but whatever floats your boat, you do you.

      What is your opinion on the fact cases went to a thousand at a lower threshold than we are at now, back in September? The formula is there, more people, mixing of people in riskier environments equals an increase of cases after incubation periods, the data is there if you look at it, both at a national and European level


    • #8714
      Plumbthedepths
      Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


      froog wrote: »
      this thing starts ending in january when the at risk start getting vaccinated. that is actually going to happen. can people seriously not wait a few more months of no pints and keeping contacts to a minimum?

      what a shame for covid to end with a bang instead of a whimper.
      You seriously think the fatigue with restrictions is due to the desire of a pint? You may not realise it but alcohol has been available throughout. Your condescending comment serves no purpose other than to incite a reaction off others, perhaps that's the purpose.


    • #8715
      froog
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


      BeefeaterHat wrote: »
      I'd be very dubious of this ending in a couple of months. NPHET will find any old excuse to drag the arse out if this

      whats the current theory from you lot - NPHET want a permanent lockdown until the end of time and to abolish pubs as well as building their media profiles for who knows what. and something about the world economic forum illuminati for good measure.

      is that about right?


    • #8716
      eagle eye
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


      ACitizenErased wrote:
      There's zero formula given there, but whatever floats your boat, you do you.
      Show us your formula and your projections for Christmas


    • #8717
      BeefeaterHat
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


      froog wrote: »
      whats the current theory from you lot - NPHET want a permanent lockdown until the end of time and to abolish pubs as well as building their media profiles for who knows what. and something about the world economic forum illuminati for good measure.

      is that about right?

      Never said that, you can go through my post history to see for yourself but I admire your skill with building strawmen.


    • #8718
      [Deleted User]
      Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


      eagle eye wrote: »
      Show us your formula and your projections for Christmas

      everything = grand


    • #8719
      KrustyUCC
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


      Nphet also told Government it should reconsider easing rules near Christmas on household visits if it decides to allow restaurants and gastro pubs.

      Nphet said household visit restrictions could be lifted between December 21 and January 2 if restaurants remained closed.

      https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/restaurants-and-pubs-should-only-be-allowed-to-offer-takeaway-over-christmas-nphet-says-39796129.html

      That's the either or NPHET presented to government

      Bit strange wanting to increase restrictions on a Saturday

      Monday to Monday would be more natural


    • #8720
      froog
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


      BeefeaterHat wrote: »
      Never said that, you can go through my post history to see for yourself but I admire your skill with building strawmen.

      sounds ridiculous doesn't it? and yet every thing i said there has been said repeatedly by multiple posters in the other thread over the last few days.


    • #8721
      pjohnson
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,086 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


      ACitizenErased wrote: »
      There's zero formula given there, but whatever floats your boat, you do you.

      Really? You cant see Benimars post? Maybe too many words

      *One day Ireland had 196 cases.
      *28 days later Ireland had 1000 cases.


      *Today we have over 300 cases
      *28 days later its quite possible we can get 1000 cases based on actual data that shows we managed to do it before.

      That help you understand? Or is this just going back to a case of ignoring whats right in front of you, And then saying thats theres no one providing any reasoning for supporting NPHET solely because you ignore it?


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    • #8722
      Plumbthedepths
      Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


      Arghus wrote: »
      Let's hope this one doesn't age badly.

      Because telling someone on an anonymous forum that they got it wrong is so important.....


    • #8723
      TonyMaloney
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


      Arghus wrote: »
      Let's hope this one doesn't age badly.

      I can't believe he's at it again. And with such gusto.

      Ah well.

      I'm finding it very hard to stomach this place at the mo. The same people. The same angry, circular arguments.


    • #8724
      Plumbthedepths
      Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


      KrustyUCC wrote: »
      so whats the solution then?

      Even more harder lockdown?

      Redouble our efforts. ;-)


    • #8725
      froog
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


      D.Q wrote: »
      I've been as guilty of it as anyone but there has been an incredible amount of energy expended between both sides bickering on here haha

      None of what we post matters a toss and it's been going on for 9 months straight haha.

      We won't affect any decision made and I don't think either side of the argument has conceded an inch. Brutal trench warfare.

      We'll need a Christmas day truce with a kickabout

      lol so true. passes the time though!


    • #8726
      harr
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


      School outbreaks now taking hold , 12 in killkenny , 6 in a school in Tipperary and up to 20 In cork ..
      What’s causing the sudden school clusters, complacency setting in ?


    • #8727
      eagle eye
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


      Hulk Hands wrote:
      Funny how you took out the second part of my post, which specifically says it's the average previously pro-lockdown person who seems to be angry tonight
      You are the one that seems angry to me. I'm just saying it as it is. The spoilt brats with adult bodies and the alcoholics are screaming because times are tough. The majority, many who were unfairly robbed of thousands of euro to save Irish and major European banks know what a tough time is, when you didn't have the money to drink or eat out. They can handle this tough time and are willing to do the right thong for the good of their families and for the nation.
      I'm one of them btw.
      Hulk Hands wrote:
      Stop wishing your sad little idea of a Christmas on other people
      There'll be nothing sad about my Christmas. I'll have lights on trees in the front and back garden and we'll have our Christmas tree inside and decorations. All Christmas presents are already bought and safely stashed. We'll have a good day, watch a movie together, probably the secret Garden this year. Visit my parents but stay outside and maintain social distance. Speak on zoom and Skype with friends. It'll be nice, maybe just not as great as a normal Christmas but it'll still be good.


    • #8728
      Arghus
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,193 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


      Plumbthedepths wrote: »
      Because telling someone on an anonymous forum that they got it wrong is so important.....

      I hope he's right to be honest.


    • #8729
      KrustyUCC
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,077 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


      The one in Cork seems to be poor parenting if the reports I'm hearing are true

      Sending children to school even after the siblings had a positive test


    • #8730
      eagle eye
      Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,565 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


      Plumbthedepths wrote:
      You seriously think the fatigue with restrictions is due to the desire of a pint? You may not realise it but alcohol has been available throughout. Your condescending comment serves no purpose other than to incite a reaction off others, perhaps that's the purpose.
      Seriously, there is no condescension in that post.


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    • #8731
      BeefeaterHat
      Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


      froog wrote: »
      sounds ridiculous doesn't it? and yet every thing i said there has been said repeatedly by multiple posters in the other thread over the last few days.

      What does that have to do with me? Am I accountable for other people's posts. You're just spouting nonsense


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