The Great Reset

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 11:52am

Fodla wrote: »

Because I believe the author's note to be irrelevant since I'm focusing on WEF choosing to retweet a link to the article a few months before the Great Reset. It's the timing of the retweet, as well as the subject matter, i.e. communism, that's off. The title of the article refers to the year 2030, which is the year by which Agenda 2030 is to be implemented worldwide.

Re that passage, that makes that article even more dystopian, in my opinion. The idea that people had to flee and live off the grid to escape from communism.

how could the authors own note be irrelevant? do you think you know what they mean better than they do?

Dohnjoe · 24-11-2020 12:15pm

Fodla wrote: »

Because I believe the author's note to be irrelevant

jesus christ..

Right so you've decided a note from the author is irrelevant because it interferes with your belief that what they are writing will literally happen..

You do understand there are thousands of predictions and futurology blogs about what life might be like in 2030 or 2040 or whatever..

Fodla · 24-11-2020 12:23pm

King Mob wrote: »

Lol jesus christ.

The author states clearly and directly that what he is writting about is not nessesarily what he wants or believes is a good idea.

You claimed that it was his and the WEF's plan.

You lied.

The author's note where he spells out his meaning is very relevant.

You just dodged and ignored it to support your conspiracy theory.

Nowhere in the article does it say any of that.
That's all your own interpretation, which we have seen is very suspect.

Be honest, did you actually read beyond the title and first paragraph before posting about it?
Or did you only repeat those parts cause they're the only ones the conspiracy theory media is repeating?

But it is irrelevant if I'm focusing on WEF deciding to retweet a link to the article a few months before the Great Reset is set to begin in January. Now, you could argue in that case that the article is irrelevant. That's true. But choosing to retweet a link to an article about abolishing private property, which happens to be communism, which a lot of people believe the Great Reset to be about (https://thepostmillennial.com/conservative-mp-starts-petition-to-stop-the-great-reset, for example), is suspicious. And the timing, a couple of months before the Great Reset, is incredibly suspicious.

seannash · 24-11-2020 12:25pm

It will be interesting if he can hold his hands up and say "Yep I still believe in the great reset thing but I got this particular piece of evidence wrong"
There's no shame in that.

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 12:27pm

Fodla wrote: »

But it is irrelevant if I'm focusing on WEF deciding to retweet a link to the article a few months before the Great Reset is set to begin in January. Now, you could argue in that case that the article is irrelevant. That's true. But choosing to retweet a link to an article about abolishing private property, which happens to be communism, which a lot of people believe the Great Reset to be about (https://thepostmillennial.com/conservative-mp-starts-petition-to-stop-the-great-reset, for example), is suspicious. And the timing, a couple of months before the Great Reset, is incredibly suspicious.

the article doesn't propose abolishing private property. repeating it ad nauseum doesn't make true.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 12:32pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the article doesn't propose abolishing private property. repeating it ad nauseum doesn't make true.

I never said it did. I said that the title does. Owning nothing means no private property.

And I'm speculating, based on WEF choosing to retweet a link to the article a couple of months before the Great Reset, that they are going to propose abolishing private property. Schwab has said that there are going to be monumental changes. Abolishing private property would certainly be monumental.

King Mob · 24-11-2020 12:33pm

Fodla wrote: »

But it is irrelevant

No dude, it's not.

You were asked for evidence to support your claims about their beliefs and missions.
You posted and quoted from this article to do that.

You stated repeated that "this is what they believe."

Yet, the first passage in the article states the opposite.

So either you lied and purposefully omitted this author's note and any mention of it. Or you never read the article.

You are now trying to continue that falsehood even after it's been pointed out to you.
You claim again in your last post:

an article about abolishing private property,

The authors note specifically says that isn't what the article is about.
It states that it wasn't an ideal future that he or anyone wanted or was planning for.
This is another lie on your part.

You are now trying to claim that WEF wants to abolish all property based on the idea that they tweeted about an article on their website that doesn't say that.
Do you know see how ridiculous and desperate that is?

Do you have ANYTHING else to show the WEF is planning or wants to abolish private property?
Any statements from anyone attached?
Any documents that outline their goals?
Anything beyond this one tweet from an article you either didn't read or you lied about?
Anything at all?

24-11-2020 12:33pm

Fodla wrote: »

I read the article. It describes a communist dystopia, in my opinion.

Erm, you realise that each individual state would have to make constitutional or legislative changes to allow for public ownership of homes? So the likelihood of that happening by 2030 are nil. More likely is Ireland and the likes will have a referendum on the right to have a home. Other things we're likely to see is the introduction of things like of UBI. Also you keep referring to the reset occurring in January, a discussion will occur on how existing systems work and how we can optimise them. It's up to individual countries and companies to adopt them..

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 12:33pm

Fodla wrote: »

I never said it did. I said that the title does. Owning nothing means no private property.

And I'm speculating, based on WEF choosing to retweet a link to the article a couple of months before the Great Reset, that they are going to propose abolishing private property. Schwab has said that there are going to be monumental changes. Abolishing private property would certainly be monumental.

well there is your problem. you keep insisting that the title is more important than the contents.

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 12:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Erm, you realise that each individual state would have to make constitutional or legislative changes to allow for public ownership of homes? So the likelihood of that happening by 2030 are nil. More likely is Ireland and the likes will have a referendum on the right to have a home. Other things we're likely to see is the introduction of things like of UBI. Also you keep referring to the reset occurring in January, a discussion will occur on how existing systems work and how we can optimise them. It's up to individual countries and companies to adopt them..

what is even more baffling to me is that the people with the power to influence stuff like this also have the most property. why would they want to give all that up?

The Nal · 24-11-2020 12:35pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the article doesn't propose abolishing private property. repeating it ad nauseum doesn't make true.

They're going to go into every privately owned house in the world in January 2030 and pull us out and let anyone who wants just to move in and stay for as long as possible. Thats about 1.5 billion houses up for eviction.

Can defo see it happening. "They" will be forcing the frail and elderly out on to the streets aswell.

"But Ill freeze to death"

"Sorry, reset!"

I for one am eyeing up Bonos house. Ill be first in the queue. Always fancied living on Vico Road but could never afford it until they announced this so I'm happy with this plan.

King Mob · 24-11-2020 12:35pm

Fodla wrote: »

I never said it did. I said that the title does. Owning nothing means no private property.

Lol. What?
The author is disagreeing with his own title?

Fodla · 24-11-2020 12:40pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

well there is your problem. you keep insisting that the title is more important than the contents.

I don't understand the confusion. I said that it is explicitly stated in the title that we will own nothing by 2030, but that it is not explicitly stated in the article that private property is to be abolished by 2030.

And the reason I am referring to the article is because WEF chose to retweet a few months before the Great Reset is set to begin. I find that suspicious.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 12:41pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Erm, you realise that each individual state would have to make constitutional or legislative changes to allow for public ownership of homes? So the likelihood of that happening by 2030 are nil. More likely is Ireland and the likes will have a referendum on the right to have a home. Other things we're likely to see is the introduction of things like of UBI. Also you keep referring to the reset occurring in January, a discussion will occur on how existing systems work and how we can optimise them. It's up to individual countries and companies to adopt them..

A referendum on the right to have a home? Why would there be a referendum on whether a person should have the right to own a home?

King Mob · 24-11-2020 12:50pm

Fodla wrote: »

And the reason I am referring to the article is because WEF chose to retweet a few months before the Great Reset is set to begin. I find that suspicious.

And the reason you are doing that is because it's the only thing you can find to back up your claim that they want to abolish private ownership.

We've also sense at least half of that is based on a lie or you not reading an article.

24-11-2020 1:30pm

Well if the whole 'nobody owns anything' b*llocks is the plan, that must be extended to Klaus Schwab etc. We'll make sure of it

King Mob · 24-11-2020 1:33pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Well if the whole 'nobody owns anything' b*llocks is the plan

But so far, we haven't seen that this is the plan.
All that's been shown is "They tweeted this article..."

And even that's turned out to be barely half true.

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 1:34pm

King Mob wrote: »

But so far, we haven't seen that this is the plan.
All that's been shown is "They tweeted this article..."

And even that's turned out to be barely half true.

barely half true is being very generous.

King Mob · 24-11-2020 1:50pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

barely half true is being very generous.

Well they did tweet that article...

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 1:50pm

King Mob wrote: »

Well they did tweet that article...

that does really add to the truthiness I suppose.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 2:04pm

From a WEF report:

"How can the declaration of 'victory over the virus' be timed correctly and the opportunity to 'build back better' be seized without fail?"

Evidence it was planned?

King Mob · 24-11-2020 2:10pm

Fodla wrote: »

From a WEF report:

"How can the declaration of 'victory over the virus' be timed correctly and the opportunity to 'build back better' be seized without fail?"

Evidence it was planned?

Dude, please show something that they're planning to abolish private ownership.
You can't just ignore your misrepresentation and pretend you weren't called on it.

Again it looks like you're doing the same tactic here.
You don't give a source for your quote, you don't state who wrote it or when, you don't give it it's context.
To me, it makes me think that if we did have the link for the quote, it would take us all of two seconds to show the author actually means something different.

So no, it's not evidence any more than that tweet was for your other false claim.

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 2:19pm

Fodla wrote: »

From a WEF report:

"How can the declaration of 'victory over the virus' be timed correctly and the opportunity to 'build back better' be seized without fail?"

Evidence it was planned?

link?

namloc1980 · 24-11-2020 2:21pm

Fodla wrote: »

From a WEF report:

"How can the declaration of 'victory over the virus' be timed correctly and the opportunity to 'build back better' be seized without fail?"

Evidence it was planned?

None of what you mentioned there is actually quoted in the White Paper. Build Back Better is only mentioned once and it is in the endnotes and is mentioned in relation to companies taking steps to look after employees during the pandemic and is something positive that will happen out of this:

To the extent that internal workforce supports and
B2B talent transfers are exhausted, companies can
help employees turn being laid off into a positive
launchpad for their careers through financial
support and “outskilling”. For example, Airbnb,
which saw its business collapse during the crisis,
laid off 1,900 people, one-quarter of its workforce,
in May, but those laid off received 14 weeks of pay,
equity stakes in the company, an Airbnb laptop,
healthcare insurance for a year and assistance with
their job search

How dare those dastardly capitalists look after their staff!!!

Fodla · 24-11-2020 2:42pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

link?

It's mentioned in the following article:

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/great-reset-justin-trudeau-conspiracy-theory_ca_5fb8331bc5b6cf1e0f081339

Pierre Poilievre tweeted about it. Mr Poilievre has created a petition to stop the Great Reset in Canada. 80,000 people have signed the petition so far.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 2:44pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

None of what you mentioned there is actually quoted in the White Paper. Build Back Better is only mentioned once and it is in the endnotes and is mentioned in relation to companies taking steps to look after employees during the pandemic and is something positive that will happen out of this:

To the extent that internal workforce supports and
B2B talent transfers are exhausted, companies can
help employees turn being laid off into a positive
launchpad for their careers through financial
support and “outskilling”. For example, Airbnb,
which saw its business collapse during the crisis,
laid off 1,900 people, one-quarter of its workforce,
in May, but those laid off received 14 weeks of pay,
equity stakes in the company, an Airbnb laptop,
healthcare insurance for a year and assistance with
their job search

How dare those dastardly capitalists look after their staff!!!

It's not in the White Paper. According to Pierre Poilievre, it's mentioned in a WEF report. It's mentioned in the following article: https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/great-reset-justin-trudeau-conspiracy-theory_ca_5fb8331bc5b6cf1e0f081339

King Mob · 24-11-2020 2:48pm

Fodla wrote: »

It's mentioned in the following article:

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/great-reset-justin-trudeau-conspiracy-theory_ca_5fb8331bc5b6cf1e0f081339

Did you miss the sub headline this time?

No, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau did not engineer the COVID-19 pandemic.

Or the article at all?

Certain aspects of what is being shared online are true — the WEF plan is called “the Great Reset” and it does discuss ways of improving the world when it comes to climate change, for example, after the pandemic. Trudeau, Biden and other leaders have talked about the “opportunity” to make some economic changes or act against climate change following the pandemic.

However, the notion of a cabal of global elites who are making nefarious plans to overhaul the world at the expense of everyday people has links that trace back through various conspiracy theories, many of which are rooted in anti-Semitism. These include everything from Pizzagate to QAnon to anti-masker and “Plandemic” movements.

And no where in that article that directly states the conspiracy theory is not true, does it contain the quote from the report you claimed.

Please provide the report.
Please provide something to show that they want to abolish private property.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 2:49pm

King Mob wrote: »

Dude, please show something that they're planning to abolish private ownership.
You can't just ignore your misrepresentation and pretend you weren't called on it.

Again it looks like you're doing the same tactic here.
You don't give a source for your quote, you don't state who wrote it or when, you don't give it it's context.
To me, it makes me think that if we did have the link for the quote, it would take us all of two seconds to show the author actually means something different.

So no, it's not evidence any more than that tweet was for your other false claim.

Okay, this is what I believe because we're just going round in circles here:

(a) I believe, not I know, that the reason WEF retweeted a link to that article is because they want to abolish private property, which, according to Agenda 2030, is unsustainable and unjust, as part of the Great Reset. I have no hard evidence that they are planning to abolish private property. I am reading between the lines. Retweeting a link to an article entitled "Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better" a couple of months before the Great Reset, during which Schwab has promised monumental changes. is suspicious, in my opinion.

(b) I am not focusing on the content of the article. I am focusing on WEF choosing to retweet a link to an article about owning nothing, including no property, a couple of months before the Great Reset.

I hope the above is clear.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 2:50pm

King Mob wrote: »

Did you miss the sub headline this time?

Or the article at all?

And no where in that article that directly states the conspiracy theory is not true, does it contain the quote from the report you claimed.

Please provide the report.
Please provide something to show that they want to abolish private property.

I'm trying to find the report.

King Mob · 24-11-2020 2:58pm

Fodla wrote: »

have no hard evidence that they are planning to abolish private property. I am reading between the lines.

So then you have nothing to show that this is there plan. Great.
They don't want that as there's no evidence they do.

Your reading between the lines is you making wild conclusions based on articles you've not read and don't count for anything.

If they wanted to abolish ownership, and they are being as obvious as you believe, then they would state it directly.

If you are then going to shift the goalposts and claim that they aren't being open, then your claim that they are being open by tweeting the article doesn't make sense.
If they weren't being open, why would they tweet about the article?

Fodla wrote: »

I hope the above is clear.

Yup. It's a lot of handwaving and backtracking. That's very clear.

Fodla wrote: »

I'm trying to find the report.

Why are you just now finding it? Where did you find the quote originally? Did they not provide a link to the report?

Dohnjoe · 24-11-2020 3:00pm

"Sir we are ready to implement the plan to abolish all private ownership"

-"Right and remind me why again?"

"Some Danish MP wrote about it once, from there the wheels were put in motion, it cannot be stopped"

-"Excellent, proceed"

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 3:11pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

"Sir we are ready to implement the plan to abolish all private ownership"

-"Right and remind me why again?"

"Some Danish MP wrote about it once, from there the wheels were put in motion, it cannot be stopped"

-"Excellent, proceed"

"Sir we are ready to implement the plan to abolish all private ownership"

-"Right and remind me why again?"

"Some Danish MP wrote about it once, from there the wheels were put in motion, it cannot be stopped"

-"Excellent, send the tweet"

Fodla · 24-11-2020 3:13pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

"Sir we are ready to implement the plan to abolish all private ownership"

-"Right and remind me why again?"

"Some Danish MP wrote about it once, from there the wheels were put in motion, it cannot be stopped"

-"Excellent, proceed"

"Sir, we are ready to implement the conspiracy theory called the Great Reset that you wrote a book about and pushing heavily for more than a year."

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 3:14pm

Fodla wrote: »

"Sir, we are ready to implement the conspiracy theory called the Great Reset that you wrote a book about and pushing heavily for more than a year."

and their first act is to tweet about it because that is the obvious first step.

namloc1980 · 24-11-2020 3:17pm

Fodla wrote: »

"Sir, we are ready to implement the conspiracy theory called the Great Reset that you wrote a book about and pushing heavily for more than a year."

So when can we expect it all to kick off? What's the first step and when will it happen? Just so we can be prepared like.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 3:17pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

and their first act is to tweet about it because that is the obvious first step.

Their first act was to declare that the world would never go back to normal. Since then they've been pushing their reset very heavily.

King Mob · 24-11-2020 3:18pm

Fodla wrote: »

"Sir, we are ready to implement the conspiracy theory called the Great Reset that you wrote a book about and pushing heavily for more than a year."

Hey, have you read that book?
In there, does he say anything about abolishing ownership?
Or anything else about any of your other claims?

Any luck on that report?
Have you suspected why the conspiracy video or site you read it off didn't include it?

Fodla · 24-11-2020 3:18pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

So when can we expect it all to kick off? What's the first step and when will it happen? Just so we can be prepared like.

From January of next year. That's when they'll be meeting. I don't know what the first step will consist of. I couldn't possibly know.

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 3:19pm

Fodla wrote: »

Their first act was to declare that the world would never go back to normal. Since then they've been pushing their reset very heavily.

why would they declare that? why not just go and do it?

namloc1980 · 24-11-2020 3:19pm

Fodla wrote: »

Their first act was to declare that the world would never go back to normal. Since then they've been pushing their reset very heavily.

Pushing it heavily? The fact I had to come into a conspiracy theory forum to find out about this suggests they aren't doing a very good job of advertising this at all. They need to get new marketing people to make sure their diabolical plans are more widely advertised.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 3:20pm

King Mob wrote: »

Hey, have you read that book?
In there, does he say anything about abolishing ownership?
Or anything else about any of your other claims?

Any luck on that report?
Have you suspected why the conspiracy video or site you read it off didn't include it?

Is the Huffington Post a conspiracy site?

No joy. If I find it I'll post a link to it. If I don't then I'll acknowledge that Pierre Poilievre was mistaken.

The Nal · 24-11-2020 3:20pm

"Good evening Mr Tyson, as per the Great Reset, you now must vacate your home immediately. Come on lets move it...."

"OK whos next for eviction? Ah, Jeff Bezos"....

"Doesn't he have lot of private armed security....?"

namloc1980 · 24-11-2020 3:21pm

Fodla wrote: »

From January of next year. That's when they'll be meeting. I don't know what the first step will consist of. I couldn't possibly know.

A meeting, in January you say? Very fooking suspicious if you ask me.

And who is going to this meeting? And where is it on?

Fodla · 24-11-2020 3:22pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

Pushing it heavily? The fact I had to come into a conspiracy theory forum to find out about this suggests they aren't doing a very good job of advertising this at all. They need to get new marketing people to make sure their diabolical plans are more widely advertised.

It's all on WEF's website to be read about. They have a podcast and have held numerous reset events.

Fodla · 24-11-2020 3:23pm

namloc1980 wrote: »

A meeting, in January you say? Very fooking suspicious if you ask me.

And is is going to this meeting? And where is it on?

You do know that the world's leaders, or their representatives, meet in Davos in January every year, don't you?

Fodla · 24-11-2020 3:23pm

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

why would they declare that? why not just go and do it?

I have no idea.

namloc1980 · 24-11-2020 3:24pm

The Nal wrote: »

"Good evening Mr Tyson, as per the Great Reset, you now must vacate your home immediately. Come on lets move it...."

"OK whos next for eviction? Ah, Jeff Bezos"....

"Doesn't he have lot of private armed security....?"

Who's going to tell all those funds and investors all over the world that their stock holdings and other assets are going to be seized by eh.....eh someone soon?

I just got myself a nice 4k TV - when can I expect it to be seized from me? If it's soon I'll need to cram in a few boxsets I was planning on watching before being sent off to a internment camp i presume to be injected with microchips. All this seizure and elimination of private ownership of stuff is a bit of a fooking inconvenience.

King Mob · 24-11-2020 3:25pm

Fodla wrote: »

Is the Huffington Post a conspiracy site?

No. It also states the conspiracy theory is false. Did you not read the article?

Fodla wrote: »

No joy. If I find it I'll post a link to it. If I don't then I'll acknowledge that Pierre Poilievre was mistaken.

So again, you have no evidence and all you have is based on a tweet.

You haven't read the report at all, so you don't know the context or who wrote it or when or why.
Yet you thought it might have been evidence for a conspiracy?

Do you not see the pattern forming here?

And I'll take your complete dodge of the question you have not read the book either?

ohnonotgmail · 24-11-2020 3:26pm

Fodla wrote: »

I have no idea.

can you not see why that would be a very odd thing to do? that perhaps they dont actually have anything planned?

namloc1980 · 24-11-2020 3:27pm

Fodla wrote: »

It's all on WEF's website to be read about. They have a podcast and have held numerous reset events.

I had a good look at the White Paper there. Actually sounds really positive. Did YOU read it?

The Great Reset

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