US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

You hardly believe someone just took his phone from him and basically decided to make the decision to concede on his behalf.
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He may have approved the tweets but theres no way he wrote them.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

A reasonable suspicion that someone else took his phone and conceded the election against his wishes?

More conspiracy theory than reasonable

Did anyone make the claim that someone forfeited the election without trump's permission/knoeledge?

It sounded to me like the claim was Trump didn't write those tweets, which is a fairly safe claim to make. The tweets are completely out of character for Trump in terms of writing style. His are never that eloquent.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

A reasonable suspicion that someone else took his phone and conceded the election against his wishes?

More conspiracy theory than reasonable

Trump doesn't get to decide who won the election.

He does have a choice to concede or not, admittedly, but even then there comes a point where despite being the president and in charge of everything someone with a greater grip on reality will come along and tell you that it's over.
He can't change the fact that he lost, others can now tell him that he's more damaging to their future and the countries future if he doesn't step aside though.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

The poster I replied to reckons "It looks like the adults have finally told the baby that play time is over and that it's someone elses turn." Ie someone took his phone and decided to concede the election against his wishes.

Complete tripe

That interpretation is complete tripe alright What it's actually saying is that Trump has finally been convinced it's time to concede. So he did. And someone else wrote the tweet because he couldn't/wouldn't.

robinph wrote: »

Nobody has claimed that someone else has taken to making decisions on Trumps behalf by stealing his phone. But Trumps concession most likely just amounted to him being told it's over, him going "hrumph, OK then, you tweet it" then slamming the door and throwing the phone on the floor on the way out the room.

Trump didn't compose the Tweet, but despite him having to be told to make the decision he still had to agree to it even if there was some significant arm twisting going on in the process.

That about sums it up in my mind.

Anyhoo, a brand new day and getting so much closer to some civility and normality in the world of politics.

seamus wrote: »

The speculation that at some point Trump will retreat to Mar a Lago and just not come back, is seeming more and more likely at this point. Biden will be the de facto President, and Pence will just sign off on things where legality requires it.

Nothing yet on what the inauguration will look like due to Covid-19, but despite being massively scaled back you'd normally still expect there to be both outgoing and incoming president there to shake hands and do a few photos. Pence would obviously turn up because he can behave like an adult, but that's going to look bad for the country/ party if Trump doesn't show up and Pence is there. Do they drag Trump along and see if he can pull worse faces than Melania did at his inauguration, or leave him playing golf in Florida and scale down the ceremony even more under the useful excuse of Covid19 and not have anyone there other than Biden, Harris and a lawyer holding a bible for them to swear on?

No need to hold the big gathering for an inugration.

I fully expect Trump to hold a rally on Inauguration Day instead of attending the inauguration, crammed with his supporters, no distancing or masks.

I expect the inauguration will be smaller than usual due to the new administration taking social gathering guidelines more seriously.

And then Trump will make many references to how his crowd at his rally was so much bigger than the attendance at the inauguration. That's my prediction for how January 20th will go down.

Sparko wrote: »

I fully expect Trump to hold a rally on Inauguration Day instead of attending the inauguration, crammed with his supporters, no distancing or masks.

I expect the inauguration will be smaller than usual due to the new administration taking social gathering guidelines more seriously.

And then Trump will make many references to how his crowd at his rally was so much bigger than the attendance at the inauguration. That's my prediction for how January 20th will go down.

This is a pretty good shout. The only worry for him would be - would anyone actually cover it if it clashed with Biden's inauguration? If he took the chance to go up against it directly it would be very easy for the execs at the major networks* to draw a line under him and start their new policy of just not covering his rallies anymore.

The only fate worse for Trump than someone else getting the limelight would be for someone else to get the limelight while at the same time he is actively being ignored.



*NewsMax and OANN are not major networks

dogbert27 wrote: »

Would Trump be the first president not to invite the new president elect to the White House?

Do presidents who died in office count?

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Do presidents who died in office count?

Count what?

DubInMeath wrote: »

Well we did have this posts from trump supporters on here claiming before this that he doesn't write any of his tweets.

Did he then instruct the spelling mistakes to ensure his secret message is intact and being conveyed correctly to his special friend followers?

Quite often VPs had no role in actual operating Govn't. Sometimes the POTUS and VP actively disliked each other and had no interaction.

Biden wouldn't need to do a White House visit anyway, he already worked there for 8 years. If I were them, I wouldn't bother forcing that issue, it'll just get Trump in a big huff again. Focusing on the actual political transition is far more important.

I've also said before that I can't see Biden wanting to have any kind of major inauguration given the pandemic, but with Trump's big baby act over the last month, it might almost be necessary to really cement the handover in some people's minds.