Ireland agrees to plan on migrant resettlement

Kivaro wrote: »

Justice Minister Helen McEntee has Europe in her sights; it is obvious that it where she will ultimately end up. So while she tells the people of Ireland that "we must do our part", she will be well gone and/or on a substantial Irish pension where the financial costs of these continuous resettlement programs will have little financial effect on her. But for the rest of us, the costs will lower our quality of lives/services and will have a enormous financial impact.

Rewarding groups of economic migrants who burn down the facilities provided to them will only encourage others to do likewise. I cannot keep up with the amount of migrants that the Irish government has agreed to accept. We have those from Calais, the Syrians from the migrant camps in the Middle East, Macron's migrants (who told the Irish that our acceptance would be quick), now these migrants from Lesbos, and who knows who else that they are covertly accepting. And then we have the migrants flying in from London and other European capitals, who are claiming asylum here.

People in Ireland who worked all their lives in this country will find themselves in a major disadvantage when it comes to the time when money has run out and they will be refused hospital beds, emergency housing, social welfare services because the Irish government overstretched themselves with these migrant resettlement programs.

Is this fair? No, it most definitely is not.
Build the capacity and provide the services first for the people already in the country, and then we can talk about "doing our part" for the millions upon millions of non-EU economic migrants would want to come here.

The only way that will ever change is if the instigators of the bad decisions are held accountable instead of riding off into the sun with a generous pension and probably hundreds of thousands saved from their tenure in government.

Greece’s anti-terror unit arrested on Thursday morning a 27-year-old Syrian national for suspected membership and participation in ISIS during a raid in Athens' Eleonas camp.

https://www.ekathimerini.com/259351/article/ekathimerini/news/authorities-arrest-suspected-jihadist-in-migrant-camp

How many more slipped the net? It’s absolutely reckless of our politicians to take in any of the illegals who entered Greece by sea. There’s no way of knowing who exactly we are taking in.

All this at the same time as this wretched government tells Irish people living abroad not to come home for Christmas.

Geuze wrote: »

As far as I know, the 6,900 refugees to be accepted are screened?


http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Irish_Refugee_Protection_Programme_(IRPP)


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All persons who arrive under the asylum seeker relocation or resettlement strands of the Irish Refugee Protection Programme undergo a security assessment by highly experienced Garda officers which is conducted while they are still overseas. This process involves an interview/s and fingerprinting. They are also interviewed by staff of the IRPP who undertake a needs and vulnerability assessment as well as providing cultural orientation.

And what about the illegal entrants? They can’t be checked properly as documentation lost( sic) so only answer is to give new ones in whatever name / country they come from and ffs let’s wake up to **** Nigeria one won’t / can’t possibly give information etc about any of theirs here, my hood neighbour for one , she came from London with 6 girls ( all adults now) yes she told Irish authorities that she was smuggled here via France in a truck to escape religious persecution ( lies) and presently back home for the last 2 months and for another few , wake up

DeadHand wrote: »

All this at the same time as this wretched government tells Irish people living abroad not to come home for Christmas.

Or the tens of thousands of Irish ppl told sorry no housing for you such is the demand , pc brigade ah teacht

Gervais08 wrote: »

An excellent and sadly often overlooked point.

“Fleeing persecution” and yet can pop back there for birthdays conveniently once their sob story has been bought!

Now in all honesty she’s a good woman , all her girls were/ are being university schooled here, but she was in London for a few years first,so let’s not be fooled by this persecution malarkey too much, yes in parts of Nigeria it doess happen, but not in her or the 4 other families near me,there’s no Nigerian on cork streets tonight but there will be plenty of native Irish , not all are druggies or drunkards, FYI lady in question is in a 4 bedroom house with only one daughter left so something is terribly wrong here and this housing shortage will continue until government cops on and gets Irish and non Irish alike out of the big houses and into smaller or dingle units and let families have a chance,there must be lots of older folk who can’t handle the maintenance el/ bills of their larger residences and would gladly move to a smaller cheaper alternative

I agree.

Although it seems that these 6,900 are somewhat more genuine than the bogus AS?

If 6,900 is a lot compared to other countries, then we should reduce it.

Only absolutely genuine cases should be allowed in the 6,900.

Here's another one in the news yesterday
Asylum seekers charged with Human trafficking


https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/asylum-seeker-charged-with-trafficking-illegal-immigrant-39772778.html

Another case during the week


https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/convicted-human-trafficker-on-romanias-most-wanted-list-is-granted-bail-by-dublin-court-39768915.html

Gatling wrote: »

Here's another one in the news yesterday
Asylum seekers charged with Human trafficking


https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/asylum-seeker-charged-with-trafficking-illegal-immigrant-39772778.html

Another case during the week


https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/convicted-human-trafficker-on-romanias-most-wanted-list-is-granted-bail-by-dublin-court-39768915.html

Sometimes I put my head in my hands and think:

if all the taxes I pay towards all this rubbish were re-directed toward railways, trams, cycle lanes, roads.............we would have a great country..

Instead, day after day after day, the media report on false/inflated insurance claims, and these bogus AS, over and over, again and again.

Add to that the many thousands of domestic welfare fraudsters (including my own relations).

Plus the waste in the HSE.

And I wish, oh Lord I wish, will we ever have a political party to tackle all of this???

I like the Greens, I am 100% in favour of policies to reduce emissions........but what do they do.................put top of their list accomm for bogus AS...........


Who can I vote for?????

Geuze wrote: »

As far as I know, the 6,900 refugees to be accepted are screened?


http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Irish_Refugee_Protection_Programme_(IRPP)


Security Clearance
All persons who arrive under the asylum seeker relocation or resettlement strands of the Irish Refugee Protection Programme undergo a security assessment by highly experienced Garda officers which is conducted while they are still overseas. This process involves an interview/s and fingerprinting. They are also interviewed by staff of the IRPP who undertake a needs and vulnerability assessment as well as providing cultural orientation.

Unbelievable. Minister mcentee said “increased diversity presentats Ireland with many opportunities”. I happen to think Ireland is okay the way it is and does not need an increase in diversity.

However, Europe has a problem, the continent of Africa is set to double its population by 2050. Currently there are about 1.25 billion people there.

They are arriving on masse in Spain’s Canary Islands and front line countries are demanding other member states help out. Obviously transfer to mainland Europe will send a signal that everyone should come.

I think we cannot underestimate the determination of these poor people. They endure week long journeys in boats with no food, water and being exposed to sunlight. When they come we aren’t going to be able to remove them.

https://youtu.be/utSOk7VUw-E

So in the canaries there's a fresh wave of migration. A friend of mine lives close to the port of Arguiniguin on Gran Canaria, so he was able to fill me in on the particulars, separate from what the media are saying. Although the Canaries are relatively close to the coast of Western Sahara, that's still 100km of rough North Atlantic water, not doable in a small craft, hence why the canaries don't get much in the way of migration by sea, it is much safer to cross the med at gibraltar or to malta. On this occasion however the Spanish Navy/Coast guard delivered the migrants. By doing so Spain has undoubtedly violated Moroccan sovereignty by entering their waters, no matter the reason. Indeed most European navies (Ireland included) have been violating the maritime territory of various African countries in the Med to pick up migrants in recent years.

The canaries case is interesting because why would the Spanish navy chose to illegally enter Moroccan waters on that day, why would the migrants get on small craft and go for a paddle that day, in full knowledge that it would have been impossible to reach the canaries in small craft. I guess the only reasonable explanation is, the Spanish knew they would be there and the migrants knew they would be rescued, which raises further questions about how high up the chain of people smuggling goes. Local expats, generally north European folks, on the island seem to be divided on the issue with some tripping over themselves trying to explain away the almost uniform gender and age profile of the migrants and others being outright hostile to them, refusing to cooperate with the government's attempt to block book accommodation for them. The local Canarian folks are 99% united in that they do not want migrants from Africa, it's viewed as an imposition by Madrid. The Canaries aren't a wealthy part of Spain, tourism is by far the biggest industry and that means wages are low, coronavirus has made things very lean for them, they're not long over the strictest lockdown in the western world, tolerance is wearing thin especially when they see migrants being offered accommodation and meals free of charge and they do not have the same PC culture that exists in Northern Europe, they'll not be shy about expressing opinions. Food is expensive there, relative to local purchasing power, so the free meals are a real bone of contention, which obviously wouldn't be the case in somewhere like Ireland.

The local media has avoided interviewing the migrants or even showing close up pictures for more than a few seconds on news reports, apparently knowing that the gender and age profile is a sensitive topic. There are a small group of Swedish / Dutch / English people organising charity drives for them (food, clothes, money etc.). This is really escalating tensions locally because the same people have, in the past, not organised any such thing for canarians who are struggling now and who really suffered during the 2008 crash and there is some new found resentment in mixed communities that were previously harmonious. Local English language publications have also come out strongly in favour of the migrants regardless of local sentiment.