Cavan v Dublin Semifinal in Navan?

patob · 22-11-2020 8:45pm #1

Surely there is no need for Croke Park for the Semi final particularly in the year that's in it. How about playing this in Navan?
As if Dublin do not have enough advantages.

And I'm long standing a Dubs fan.

Ray Donovan · 22-11-2020 8:47pm

patob wrote: »

Surely there is no need for Croke Park for the Semi final particularly in the year that's in it. How about playing this in Navan?
As if Dublin do not have enough advantages.

And I'm long standing a Dubs fan.

Quality of pitch has to be a factor.

Akabusi · 22-11-2020 9:02pm

Just play it in Croke Park, saying that as a Cavan man.

EICVD · 22-11-2020 9:03pm

patob wrote: »

Surely there is no need for Croke Park for the Semi final particularly in the year that's in it. How about playing this in Navan?
As if Dublin do not have enough advantages.

And I'm long standing a Dubs fan.

Very fair to the Cavan lads who might never get a chance to play in Croker again....

Bonniedog · 22-11-2020 9:03pm

patob wrote: »

Surely there is no need for Croke Park for the Semi final particularly in the year that's in it. How about playing this in Navan?
As if Dublin do not have enough advantages.

And I'm long standing a Dubs fan.

You are not.

If you think the match should be Navan, fair enough.

Lies make little Baby Jesus Cry

Fann Linn · 22-11-2020 9:03pm

Or maybe Dublin just play them with ten men after all the advantages they have.

billyhead · 22-11-2020 9:09pm

Op. Will you go away with this ****e. Without crowds there is no advantage to Dublin. If you ask any Cavan player they would prefer to play at Croker. They probably won't get the chance of playing an AI semi their again.

I_NoScoped_JFK · 22-11-2020 9:12pm

Can't believe a thread was actually started on this. Wow

DJIMI TRARORE · 22-11-2020 9:12pm

Play it in croker, that way the dubs can't complain about getting beaten

I_NoScoped_JFK · 22-11-2020 9:13pm

billyhead wrote: »

Op. Will you go away with this ****e. Without crowds there is no advantage to Dublin. If you ask any Cavan player they would prefer to play at Croker. They probably won't get the chance of playing an AI semi their again.

That's a great signature, very strong

Fann Linn · 22-11-2020 9:14pm

I_NoScoped_JFK wrote: »

Can't believe a thread was actually started on this. Wow

In fairness he did throw in the obligatory, ....'and I am a long standing Dublin fan.'

munster87 · 22-11-2020 9:15pm

Play it in a country that allows crowds in the stadiums at the moment. You might get a few dubs flying over. If flights were cheap enough Cavan might get a crowd too for a bit of atmosphere

Fann Linn · 22-11-2020 9:16pm

munster87 wrote: »

Play it in a country that allows crowds in the stadiums at the moment. You might get a few dubs flying over. If flights were cheap enough Cavan might get a crowd too for a bit of atmosphere

Cavan lads wouldn't pay for the flights.

Bonniedog · 22-11-2020 9:16pm

I_NoScoped_JFK wrote: »

Can't believe a thread was actually started on this. Wow

I think the OP might be venting his frustration over another dire performance by the rugger goys.

tayto lover · 22-11-2020 9:17pm

Cavan would want to play in Croke Park.

Hammar · 22-11-2020 9:19pm

Dubs are up against it ,as it is... Give them a chance and play it in Croker...

C__MC · 22-11-2020 9:25pm

Will be croke park
Owing to the fact supporters will be allowed if we go back to Level 3

RoyalCelt · 22-11-2020 9:34pm

billyhead wrote: »

Op. Will you go away with this ****e. Without crowds there is no advantage to Dublin. If you ask any Cavan player they would prefer to play at Croker. They probably won't get the chance of playing an AI semi their again.

I feel like the crowd isn't a huge advantage to dublin in terms of their performance. While it will make the opposition more nervous it also puts pressure on dublin to perform. Maybe it's an advantage who knows.

It's definitely an advantage to them in terms of the referees performance. In sport the home team with a vocal crowd gets a biased ref most days and that's always been the case with Dublin.

Doesn't get highlighted much now because they win by so much anyway but back when they were winning leinster championships narrowly it made the difference on some occasions.

How Soon Is Now · 22-11-2020 9:39pm

On the day Tipperary and Cavan win their provincial finals for the first time in years and people are still talking about "Dublin's advantages"

Bonniedog · 22-11-2020 9:45pm

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Doesn't get highlighted much now because they win by so much anyway but back when they were winning leinster championships narrowly it made the difference on some occasions.

Your own county not only voted on Leinster Council to move Dublin games to Croke Park in late 1990s, but also chose to play Dublin in Croke Park in both the first round draw and replay in 1983.

Meath thrived in Croke Park and indeed the worst hammering they got from Dublin between 1955 and 1995 was in Navan in early 80s.

You can pick and choose whatever suits your case.

piplip87 · 22-11-2020 9:49pm

Would ya stop with the ****e. Navan is a ****hole, the pitch does be in a bad way in June never mind November. The last time we where in an all Ireland Semi the streets of Navan and Kells where lined with scum throwing stones at Cavan cars on the way home and abuse been hurled at us. On the off chance we get fans into the stadium I think Croker with 5000 fans would be ideal.

tanko · 22-11-2020 9:49pm

Navan is a dump, play it in Breffni.

Open the Pubs · 22-11-2020 10:18pm

C__MC wrote: »

Will be croke park
Owing to the fact supporters will be allowed if we go back to Level 3

Is there a chance fans would be allowed go to it?

Mr.Crinklewood · 22-11-2020 10:33pm

tanko wrote: »

Navan is a dump, play it in Breffni.

Wouldn't really be fair giving Cavan home advantage.

dobman88 · 22-11-2020 10:35pm

Jesus this is a sad thread.

km79 · 22-11-2020 10:35pm

C__MC wrote: »

Will be croke park
Owing to the fact supporters will be allowed if we go back to Level 3

What’s this now !!!!
And by the time of the final it will be less than a week before Xmas so level 2 or 1

Insert dumb and dumber gif about there being a chance

Also what a ridiculous thread to be set up !

mobby · 22-11-2020 11:26pm

dobman88 wrote: »

Jesus this is a sad thread.

Its that time of year, its normally August/September time they arrive and moan and groan about Dublin. a bit late this year ,so a few more strange ones around.

patob · 23-11-2020 11:55pm

I heard today that the Dublin v Cavan Semi final in 1920 was in Navan. Obviously the GAA had a good sense of fair play on that occasion.
Some former players in the media incl Peter Canavan and Mike Quirke also calling for a neutral venue today, but accepting that it is up to the Cavan players to make a call on this first.

Mehapoy · 24-11-2020 12:01am

I think we should just bulldoze croke Park and sell it off as it seems football people are fixated on the only way of beating Dublin is playing all games anywhere but croke Park! Actually better idea reserve it solely for the hurling and let the football off somewhere else!

Fann Linn · 24-11-2020 12:16am

patob wrote: »

I heard today that the Dublin v Cavan Semi final in 1920 was in Navan. Obviously the GAA had a good sense of fair play on that occasion.
Some former players in the media incl Peter Canavan and Mike Quirke also calling for a neutral venue today, but accepting that it is up to the Cavan players to make a call on this first.

It's actually not up to the Cavan players to make the call. At least pretend you know what you're talking about when you start a thread.

EICVD · 24-11-2020 1:01am

Mehapoy wrote: »

I think we should just bulldoze croke Park and sell it off as it seems football people are fixated on the only way of beating Dublin is playing all games anywhere but croke Park! Actually better idea reserve it solely for the hurling and let the football off somewhere else!

Should build a 100,000 seater over in Britain somewhere for all the GAA finals, no one would have home advantage then.....

rrs · 24-11-2020 7:51am

Navan hasn't floodlighting so that would rule it out. There is not many alternatives. Mullingar, Clones no lighting either. Unless they were to bring it to Tullamore or Newry. Or Breffni &#55357;&#56841;

The Cavan players themselves would probably like to test themselves in Croke Park. It's best surface in country, obviously Dublin are use to it but that's Leinster Councils fault

seligehgit · 24-11-2020 9:10am

Fann Linn wrote: »

It's actually not up to the Cavan players to make the call. At least pretend you know what you're talking about when you start a thread.

I'd be inclined to give the poster the benefit of doubt.

He/she was likely stating that if it was ruled that the game could be played at a neutral venue then and only it would the Cavan players decision as to where they'd have a preference to play the semi final.

Be that Croke Park or a neutral venue

billyhead · 24-11-2020 9:51am

In all honesty Cavan aren't going to beat Dublin irrespective of where it's played.

Tombo2001 · 24-11-2020 10:37am

Akabusi wrote: »

Just play it in Croke Park, saying that as a Cavan man.

The analogy here for me would be a Dundalk or Bohs player in Europe, saying yeah its a pity about the result but hey I got Ibra's jersey so I'm happy out.

Croke Park suits Dublin's play. Its more like an astro pitch than grass. They will cut Cavan open with ease in Croke Park. It could be a worse beating than Meath got.

The only chance Cavan has to make a game of this is a mudfest in a regional ground.

So your choice - do you want a 'day out' (and lets not forget, it will be an empty stadium) or do you want to give yourself the best possible chance of making a game of it.

bocaman · 24-11-2020 11:06am

Why not play it outside of Croke Park. As long as both sides are happy.

gourcuff · 24-11-2020 11:15am

but isn't gaelic football the only sport in the world where home advantage is irrelevant? that's the narrative out there from a certain side...

bennyl10 · 24-11-2020 11:49am

gourcuff wrote: »

but isn't gaelic football the only sport in the world where home advantage is irrelevant? that's the narrative out there from a certain side...

Sure Croke Park isn’t home for one team
It just hosts all their home and neutral games, crowds or not

But remember it’s not a home ground.

Fann Linn · 24-11-2020 11:50am

bennyl10 wrote: »

Sure Croke Park isn’t home for one team
It just hosts all their home and neutral games, crowds or not

But remember it’s not a home ground.

Other teams can rent it too.

bennyl10 · 24-11-2020 11:56am

dobman88 wrote: »

Jesus this is a sad thread.

Systematic of the current attitude in the most part, towards the football championship.

The excuse has always been it has to be Croke park for the ‘attendance’.

That’s no longer a problem, Dubs should win anyway, take it too a proper neutral venue

Open the Pubs · 24-11-2020 12:04pm

"Neutral venues suitable to both Cavan and Dublin are few and far between. Páirc Tailteann in Navan no longer has floodlights which rules it out for an evening throw-in."

https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/take-the-dubs-out-of-croker-cavan-boss-graham-wants-neutral-venue-for-semi-final-39783206.html

How or why did they get rid of the floodlights in Navan?

Pretty much means it's Croker, not much alternative stadiums that suits both teams.

Fann Linn · 24-11-2020 12:05pm

bennyl10 wrote: »

Systematic of the current attitude in the most part, towards the football championship.

The excuse has always been it has to be Croke park for the ‘attendance’.

That’s no longer a problem, Dubs should win anyway, take it too a proper neutral venue

Other Leinster teams can opt to play Dublin at their home ground when the draw is made.
However THEY refuse to, hence the reason Dublin haven't played outside Croke Park since 2006.
Royal Celt and others on these forums should put the same effort into criticising their own County Boards and seek answers as to the reason why.

Dublin GAA and their fans have no problem hitting the road in Feb, March and April for league games.

Hoboo · 24-11-2020 12:11pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

Other Leinster teams can opt to play Dublin at their home ground when the draw is made.
However THEY refuse to, hence the reason Dublin haven't played outside Croke Park since 2006.
Royal Celt and others on these forums should put the same effort into criticising their own County Boards and seek answers as to the reason why.

Dublin GAA and their fans have no problem hitting the road in Feb, March and April for league games.

Gate receipts is the primary reason, its not to play in Croker.

Fann Linn · 24-11-2020 12:17pm

Hoboo wrote: »

Gate receipts is the primary reason, its not to play in Croker.

So is that Dublin's fault?
It's so daft, complaining about Dublin playing all their games in CP and then saying that ye want the games held in CP so that ye can get the share of the gate receipts that the Dubs bring to CP.

At least you answered the question.

willabur · 24-11-2020 12:50pm

Tombo2001 wrote: »

The analogy here for me would be a Dundalk or Bohs player in Europe, saying yeah its a pity about the result but hey I got Ibra's jersey so I'm happy out.

Croke Park suits Dublin's play. Its more like an astro pitch than grass. They will cut Cavan open with ease in Croke Park. It could be a worse beating than Meath got.

The only chance Cavan has to make a game of this is a mudfest in a regional ground.

So your choice - do you want a 'day out' (and lets not forget, it will be an empty stadium) or do you want to give yourself the best possible chance of making a game of it.

Going on the evidence of last weekend Cavan are a far better team than Meath. Armaghs pitch held up very well on sunday, in no way was it a mudfest. No doubt Dublin will in all likelyhood win the game well but I think your comparison with Meath is both lazy and ill informed

willabur · 24-11-2020 12:51pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

So is that Dublin's fault?
It's so daft, complaining about Dublin playing all their games in CP and then saying that ye want the games held in CP so that ye can get the share of the gate receipts that the Dubs bring to CP.

At least you answered the question.

It is possible for it not to be Dublin's fault and at the same time be very advantageous situation for Dublin

Fann Linn · 24-11-2020 12:53pm

willabur wrote: »

It is possible for it not to be Dublin's fault and at the same time be very advantageous situation for Dublin

It still in the others counties remit to resolve it.

willabur · 24-11-2020 1:16pm

Fann Linn wrote: »

It still in the others counties remit to resolve it.

given the costs involved it probably isn't - you are essentially saying let them ('other counties') eat cake

recyclebin · 24-11-2020 1:26pm

Is that really true that county boards are giving up home advantage to play Dublin in Croke Park in the Leinster championship ? It might be for Kildare as they don't have capacity. What does that say about fairness? Smaller teams are having to sacrifice home advantage just for a bag of money to pay the bills? The GAA shouldn't be like this.

AndyBoBandy · 24-11-2020 1:29pm

Does Navan have Hawkeye? or any other stadiums other than Croke Park?

Fann Linn · 24-11-2020 1:32pm

recyclebin wrote: »

Is that really true that county boards are giving up home advantage to play Dublin in Croke Park in the Leinster championship ? It might be for Kildare as they don't have capacity. What does that say about fairness? Smaller teams are having to sacrifice home advantage just for a bag of money to pay the bills? The GAA shouldn't be like this.

That's the way it is.

Cavan v Dublin Semifinal in Navan?

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