Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

rob316 wrote: »

Ya once a week sounds good to me. Anyone that can't divide a number by 7 have bigger things to worry about than covid.

You be surprised or not. At least we have people looking at 7 day averages and not 1 day to the next

Just to comment on a lot of people that seem to be implying that hospital outbreaks are our main problem. Part of the reason they are so high is that numbers in the community are high, therefore a healthcare worker gets infected in the community/ eg on public transport going to work, unaware brings it into the hospital starting a chain of infection. Or a patient is admitted with something totally unrelated to covid, gets routinely swabbed on admission and 24 hours later the result comes back positive and because she came in with something non covid related she’s been sitting in a 6 bedded room for a day and infected several of the other patients.

Both of those scenarios are very difficult to solve without lower community infection rates.

I can’t speak for any other hospital and I’m by no means an infection control expert but it is very difficult to see a solution to the hospital outbreaks. All patients are swabbed on admission. We’re wearing masks at all times unless eating at lunch, social distancing is impossible on wards, they are so busy all of the time. Yes people eat together at lunch (while trying to maintain 2 metres) but there’s nothing we can do about that, over the summer people ate outside but that’s not possible now.

Maybe healthcare workers are slightly less vigilant than they were in March/ April, I don’t know. We’re all sick of it I can tell you that much, it’s mentally exhausting.

To me the only thing I can think of is mass testing of healthcare workers particularly those of us who work in direct patient contact every week or more if possible. But I don’t know if we have the capacity to do this, probably not.

The suggestion that hospital cases are driving the overall cases up is nonsense to me, it’s probably 1/4 of the problem. It’s probably driving the deaths up if anything.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think people are SEVERELY underestimating how quick vaccines will be rolled out once approved.

Reckon it will be exponential?

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Did someone post here last night about an outbreak in Vincents ? I remember seeing something about it.

Anyway just heard a family member went in today for a consultants visit, the family member was wearing their mask, the consultant wasn't, even said you can take your mask off if you want while they were in the office.

Unbelievable

I had a similar experience myself in Beaumont and Rotunda hospitals. Initial meeting with consultant his secretary wasn't wearing a mask despite dealing directly with patients. He asked me if I wanted to take off my mask during the consultation then handed me a pen to sign a consent form, putting it back in his pocket afterwards, no sanitizing.

Had my procedure in the Rotunda a few weeks later. A few of the medical staff around the operating theatre with masks under their chins. Same consultant came to talk to me afterwards and sat beside me on the bed with no mask.

My friend works in a large hospital and says medical staff are the worse culprits to taking off masks and gathering to talk in corridors.

froog wrote: »

agree about the doom, you should really lighten up a bit.

You're calling me a doomer? I think you've mixed me up with someone else

I wonder has Chris Rea made alternative plans this year?

froog wrote: »

that's basically what he's been saying though.

Maybe I'm just picking him up wrong then. I just get an awful negative and dismissive vibe from him. Anytime a journalist poses a positive story or question he shots it down, nothing to see here, move along. Thats what I got from him when the vaccine was mentioned.

Always_Running wrote: »

I wonder has Chris Rea made alternative plans this year?

He's releasing a new version: Skyping Home for Christmas

Russman wrote: »

This thread gets very surreal at times.
Fu@€ing hell, so far, it’s NPHETs fault, they’re hiding numbers, they’re holding back numbers, they’re adding in numbers, they’re massaging the numbers, they’re protecting their fat salaries, Nolan got his maths wrong, they want the country locked up, Tony is the grim reaper, the journalists are useless, they’re wrong we’re right, NPHET hate pubs, the politicians are useless, it’ll be Shergar next.

What the actual f-(k

And also, the numbers are terrible, MOAR lockdown, virus out of control, takeaway pints, they're doing it for us, the vaccine is years away, Christmas comes every year we're in a pandemic, house parties, idiots, selfishness, they have all the data we dont

Not the swab v cases bullish!t again, HSE has all the data it needs to determine daily cases, the cases are what they are regardless of swabs end of story

HSE are within their right not to share all of it on their website as I’m sure results from POC and external testing is not within HSE Labware. I’m sure there are HSE staff reading these threads laughing at all the armchair experts losing their sh!t because the numbers don’t match.

BTW what happened that the beers guy doesn’t post the case numbers early anymore?