Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

normanoffside wrote: »

I think NPHET must be giving the journalists the questions they want.

The department of health press officer has told the media not to ask certain questions before. That’s what their job is.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

"We know that Level 3 didn't work in controlling the virus". NPHET have planted a journalist in the audience.

What were Dublins case numbers going into level 3 and what were they when we decided to go to level 5? Dublin were in level 3 for a good 5 weeks and it clearly didn't work

Numbers are decreasing not increasing. These figures are added to each day or NPHET will have no fat wages. It's time to let the politicians do what is best for the economy and for Christmas and stop this nonsense.

Either this or give a complete breakdown of the date all those numbers come from. Leave some in storage in case theres a low number. Real number today 300. Real number tomorrow probably similar. Not the 500 Tony will invent.

fits wrote: »

I think the criticism of NPHET here is misguided. We are in one of best positions in all of Europe.

The way our media and CMO is portraying, you'd think we are one of the worst.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Last week it was funerals, this week its workplaces.

God forbid they'd say the work places are in the health system

What do you really expect them to say?

The numbers have stalled - we aren't where we hoped we would be.

Do you really think they can just fob it off - ah it's only hospitals, don't worry, relax - or should they repeat and repeat again the public health message. I can't do anything about hospitals, but I can make decisions on an individual level that may help.

And, lets face it, they do have more expertise and access to reams and reams worth of more data than any of us on here have - they aren't just picking their advice from nowhere.

Reactively defensively to every last thing NPHET says isn't really going to get us anywhere.

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Numbers start dropping hugely after 1 day of level 5.

They were starting to work.

Dublin was in level 3 for a lot longer and all it really did was stabilise them, it didn't make them decrease. Reasonable to assume from the data that they got from level 3 there that it wasn't working imo.

Can any journalist attend the briefings or do they have to be invited?

National deaths and new case numbers since the introduction of Level 5 on October 22nd


Day Month Date Deaths Weekly 7 Day Av ROI Weekly 5 Day Av 5 Day % 7 Day Av 7 Day % 14 Day Av 14 Day %
Thursday October 22nd 3 33 4.71 1,066 8,092 1,163.20 7.96% 1,156.00 26.85% 1,033.64 135.61%
Friday October 23rd 7 37 5.29 777 7,869 1,062.00 -9.37% 1,124.14 16.37% 1,045.07 127.44%
Saturday October 24th 4 33 4.71 859 7,452 1,027.60 -11.34% 1,064.57 6.06% 1,034.14 101.17%
Sunday October 25th 0 30 4.29 1,025 7,194 978.80 -16.47% 1,027.71 -4.02% 1,049.21 93.76%
Monday October 26th 3 33 4.71 939 7,102 933.20 -22.57% 1,014.57 -7.78% 1,057.36 84.67%
Tuesday October 27th 5 25 3.57 720 6,553 864.00 -25.72% 936.14 -19.68% 1,050.86 73.82%
Wednesday October 28th 6 28 4.00 675 6,061 843.60 -20.56% 865.86 -26.36% 1,020.86 56.54%
Thursday October 29th 6 31 4.43 866 5,861 845.00 -17.77% 837.29 -27.57% 996.64 41.04%
Friday October 30th 6 30 4.29 772 5,856 794.40 -18.84% 836.57 -25.58% 980.36 31.68%
Saturday October 31st 5 31 4.43 416 5,413 689.80 -26.08% 773.29 -27.36% 918.93 16.05%
Sunday November 1st 2 33 4.71 552 4,940 656.20 -24.05% 705.71 -31.33% 866.71 1.07%
Monday November 2nd 2 32 4.57 767 4,768 674.60 -20.03% 681.14 -32.86% 847.86 -5.18%
Tuesday November 3rd 5 32 4.57 322 4,370 565.80 -33.04% 624.29 -33.31% 780.21 -18.21%
Wednesday November 4th 8 34 4.86 444 4,139 500.20 -37.03% 591.29 -31.71% 728.57 -26.68%
Thursday November 5th 3 31 4.43 591 3,864 535.20 -22.41% 552.00 -34.07% 694.64 -32.80%
Friday November 6th 8 33 4.71 499 3,591 524.60 -20.05% 513.00 -38.68% 674.79 -35.43%
Saturday November 7th 5 33 4.71 355 3,530 442.20 -34.45% 504.29 -34.79% 638.79 -38.23%
Sunday November 8th 2 33 4.71 542 3,520 486.20 -14.07% 502.86 -28.74% 604.29 -42.41%
Monday November 9th 1 32 4.57 270 3,023 451.40 -9.76% 431.86 -36.60% 556.50 -47.37%
Tuesday November 10th 16 43 6.14 270 2,971 387.20 -27.65% 424.43 -32.01% 524.36 -50.10%
Wednesday November 11th 2 37 5.29 362 2,889 359.80 -31.41% 412.71 -30.20% 502.00 -50.83%
Thursday November 12th 1 35 5.00 395 2,693 367.80 -16.82% 384.71 -30.31% 468.36 -53.01%
Friday November 13th 7 34 4.86 482 2,676 355.80 -26.82% 382.29 -25.48% 447.64 -54.34%
Saturday November 14th 6 35 5.00 456 2,777 393.00 -12.94% 396.71 -21.33% 450.50 -50.98%
Sunday November 15th 1 34 4.86 378 2,613 414.60 7.08% 373.29 -25.77% 438.07 -49.46%
Monday November 16th 5 38 5.43 456 2,799 433.40 20.46% 399.86 -7.41% 415.86 -50.95%
Tuesday November 17th 11 33 4.71 366 2,895 427.60 16.26% 413.57 -2.56% 419.00 -46.30%
Wednesday November 18th 12 43 6.14 379 2,912 407.00 14.39% 416.00 0.80% 414.36 -43.13%
Thursday November 19th 4 46 6.57 429 2,946 401.60 2.19% 420.86 9.39% 402.79 -42.02%

Arghus wrote: »

What do you really expect them to say?

The numbers have stalled - we aren't where we hoped we would be.

Do you really think they can just fob it off - ah it's only hospitals, don't worry, relax - or should they repeat and repeat again the public health message. I can't do anything about hospitals, but I can make decisions on an individual level that may help.

And, lets face it, they do have more expertise and access to reams and reams worth of more data than any of us on here have - they aren't just picking their advice from nowhere.

Reactively defensively to every last thing NPHET says isn't really going to get us anywhere.

I'm not saying fob it off, your allowed to question what's being said instead of blindingly accepting everything you hear.

Data is readily available to see in this country, its quite transparent I will say, we all have the right to question something if its not in the data that is released, to say positivity is increasing isn't showing in the data last few days for example.

This isn't me reacting defensively its asking questions based on the current data thats released.Nothing more nothing less, simple as that.

normanoffside wrote: »

A journalist saying that it is known that level 3 didn't work.

Where did he get that from?

his ass, just like the figures we're being fed tonight...

Deleted User wrote: »

Yes there is, by yesterday evening 221 healthcare workers in University Hospital Limerick were identified as having Covid. All originating from a single cluster. Why the journalists present won't address this beggars belief.

Is that actual confirmed cases or are they self isolating due to being a close contact? There's quite a difference.

KrustyUCC wrote: »

There is definitely no backlog on swabs

Over the last month cases exceed swabs by 854

I wonder if the hospital tested cases not included in the swab number which would explain why the cases higher than swabs , currently low number swabs but cases high due to the ability of hospital to do their own tests. Saw an article during week that Galway hospital could now test swabs on site

caveat emptor wrote: »

I blame the main stream media for all of my woes. If only there were a strong leader to stick it too then.

Seriously though ask about hospitals and infection control.

I would have a very jaundiced view of hygiene etc in hospitals.

I attend (or did pre-Covid) a clinic in a major hospital every six months or so. I was always interested in the amount of people coming in at about 7.45am and how few of them never sanitised their hands on the way in.

On 3 separate occasions I took the trouble to sit there and count the numbers. On each occasion I counted in at least 100 people, and the average using the hand sanitising machine was always about 50%.

And included in the 50% not sanitising were lots of staff, inc nurses, coming in to work.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No idea id say they apply. Especially after the one that went on a rant a few months ago. 20 minutes of chaos

She wasn't even a journalist. The paper she said she was from didn't exist - she's from a family of fundamentalist Christian nutters that are always on the receiving end of persecution that requires media attention.