Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cases dropping a week into level 5 = level 3.

Again your understanding of things is quite limited. The day you start level 5 is the day it starts to take affect.

After three days you'll notice a difference, a much bigger one after seven days and from ten days onwards you should see the full affect of the new lockdown.

Our positivity rate had fallen by 1% on the 26th October, five days after level 5 lockdown began. A week later it had fallen by another 1.8%. Then it fell by .9% and then by .1%.

What this tells you is that we eliminated a good portion of the problem but not all of it. We have issues in hospitals and the schools are still open. Sort out the hospitals and close the schools and we'll be back where we were in July very quickly.
The reason for this is that outside of idiots there'll be nobody spreading it.

mloc123 wrote: »

And that seems to be working just fine... Hospitals are stable, kids are okay... since you are sure it is rampant in schools and yet none of them are ending up in hospital.. or even mildly sick.

That's a short term picture you are looking at and hopefully nothing happens but we still don't know the long term consequences of contracting this virus. We already know there is long covid which even asymptomatics are suffering from, and pims which kids are getting.
In 18 months time there could be other stuff happening, hopefully not but we don't know.

It's like this is being treated so differently to other things. I bring up vaping because it's new as an example. Vaping is banned in hospital grounds, there's all sorts of restrictions about it's sale as regards size of bottles and tanks etc.

Now there's no proof of any sort that larger bottles, or bigger tanks or even passive intake of the vapor is unhealthy but these things have all been banned.

With covid we are taking chances with our kids, our elderly and basically everybody. It's the same people making the decisions on these two different topics. Hypocrite is the word that comes to mind.

seamus wrote: »

200 cases/day is around 2% positivity rate.



If they announce 366 again today, the 7-day doesn't change.

Don’t think thats right.

If they announce 366 again today the 7 day average goes up, becuse the number 7 days ago was 362. So 362 drops out and 366 comes in giving a marginal rise.

Or as might be presented by Dr Tony - a very serious cause for concern.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Lockdown works, shock. Numbers began reducing during level 3's effect.

Don't be so condescending, you're not an expert.

A full two weeks after the whole country entered level three we had the highest positivity rate we've had in this country since April at 7.2%.

You just want to ignore that, then ignore the five days of level 5 and give the level 3 lockdown all the credit for the drop of 1%.

You certainly do not have any idea what you are talking about.

379 cases 12 Deaths

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Total Deaths now 2006

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Hearing about a potential outbreak in St Vincent’s with a large number of staff self isolating and awaiting tests. Apparently an entire team out a lot of nurses around the team.

Crap

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-facemasks-idUSKBN27Y1YW?taid=5fb5418584ce3a000150fc7c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Large Danish study finds face masks only reduce chance of infection by 15-20%

1.8% of mask wearing group became infected over the course of the study while 2.1% of the control group contracted COVID

Better than nothing is probably the best you can say about face masks really then, have very limited effect

daydorunrun wrote: »

I think they make a lot of people feel safe, untouchable even.

When vaccinations start rolling and things get back to normal there will be quite a few who won’t be able to stop wearing them. T’will be like taking the doodie from a toddler.

Wonder if study is taking into account the amount of fidgeting and re-using over days which is likely making them even less effective and potentially counter productive.

Good stuff

379 total new cases 12 deaths

mloc123 wrote: »

She is obsessed with Covid and schools based on her feed, can't be healthy for her... mind you, same for a whole bunch of people on this thread... spending day after day after day obsessing about things that are out of their control.

I haven't read anything from this person's feed. I don't read much from people who are agenda driven on either side.

Thing is though I believe schools are a problem. It's just that the math doesn't add up.

We are here now plateaud in a level 5 lockdown. Last time we were in a strict lockdown the numbers dropped much more. The only difference between then and now is that the schools were closed.

Kids are mostly asymptomaic but are still carriers. We have studies from much renowned universities telling us that kids are big spreaders of the virus and I haven't heard anybody challenge the results of these studies. It appears they just ignore them and carry on with their own take on things.

Widdensushi wrote: »

You are conveniently ignoring case numbers, from the day level 5 began numbers were down a third on the previous week, I presume you are not saying that level 5 worked in a matter of hours?

Show me those numbers please.

eagle eye wrote: »

We are here now plateaud in a level 5 lockdown. Last time we were in a strict lockdown the numbers dropped much more. The only difference between then and now is that the schools were closed.

eagle eye wrote: »

I haven't read anything from this person's feed. I don't read much from people who are agenda driven on either side.

Thing is though I believe schools are a problem. It's just that the math doesn't add up.

We are here now plateaud in a level 5 lockdown. Last time we were in a strict lockdown the numbers dropped much more. The only difference between then and now is that the schools were closed.

Kids are mostly asymptomaic but are still carriers. We have studies from much renowned universities telling us that kids are big spreaders of the virus and I haven't heard anybody challenge the results of these studies. It appears they just ignore them and carry on with their own take on things.

The last time we were in lockdown older people weren't leaving their homes, I see them out and about constantly now, the majority of people are more relaxed this time.

Dublin keeping low given the density. Nice to see Limerick drop down from yesterday.

Slowly getting back on track after last week

What Username Guidelines wrote: »

Hearing about a potential outbreak in St Vincent’s with a large number of staff self isolating and awaiting tests. Apparently an entire team out a lot of nurses around the team.

I know a man in his 80’s who was in there after a fall since last week and he tested positive today. No symptoms yet thankfully.

Are we now back to a similar situation To spring time where care settings were the main source Of infection I wonder?