N3 - Virginia Bypass [route options published]

Pete_Cavan · 12-11-2020 01:41PM

I see the AADT at Whitegate is only just over 10k, it probably drops by 1k on the Cavan side of Virginia. I think the new road should join the existing N3 north west of Virginia and keep the single carriageway from there with widening, some properties CPOed, etc. A new section of road south of Lisgrey House and avoiding the junctions there would be sufficient. I'd like to see money directed towards removing the roundabouts in the middle of and at the western end of the existing 2+2. The existing 2+2 is 9.5km, add another ~12km bypassing Virginia and it would be a good stretch of Expressway if it only had LILO junctions. Leaving the existing roundabouts and likely adding at least one more (at the northern end of the Virginia bypass) would be a bit of a mess.

roadmaster · 12-11-2020 02:11PM

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

I see the AADT at Whitegate is only just over 10k, it probably drops by 1k on the Cavan side of Virginia. I think the new road should join the existing N3 north west of Virginia and keep the single carriageway from there with widening, some properties CPOed, etc. A new section of road south of Lisgrey House and avoiding the junctions there would be sufficient. I'd like to see money directed towards removing the roundabouts in the middle of and at the western end of the existing 2+2. The existing 2+2 is 9.5km, add another ~12km bypassing Virginia and it would be a good stretch of Expressway if it only had LILO junctions. Leaving the existing roundabouts and likely adding at least one more (at the northern end of the Virginia bypass) would be a bit of a mess.

Do you mean putting over bridges at the Oldcastle & Mullagh Junctions?

Pete_Cavan · 12-11-2020 02:43PM

roadmaster wrote: »

Do you mean putting over bridges at the Oldcastle & Mullagh Junctions?

Put the R163 on a bridge over the N3 and create a LILO junction. Would be straightforward enough as the Drumbarragh side is already higher than the N3 so only have to build up the other side. Create another LILO at the existing northern end of 2+2 and extend 2+2 to the far side of Virginia. You could then have >20km of 2+2 without at grade junctions giving good journey times. Leaving the roundabouts on the existing 2+2 plus at least one more on the Virginia Bypass would leave it a rather disappointing road.

roadmaster · 12-11-2020 03:54PM

Pete_Cavan wrote: »

Put the R163 on a bridge over the N3 and create a LILO junction. Would be straightforward enough as the Drumbarragh side is already higher than the N3 so only have to build up the other side. Create another LILO at the existing northern end of 2+2 and extend 2+2 to the far side of Virginia. You could then have >20km of 2+2 without at grade junctions giving good journey times. Leaving the roundabouts on the existing 2+2 plus at least one more on the Virginia Bypass would leave it a rather disappointing road.

You could even very cheaply at the Northern roundabout using the end of the R147 put short new section of road to connect Mullagh. That way you get rid of that lethal junction

spacetweek · 12-11-2020 09:48PM

steeler j wrote: »

Any opinions of the purple route

It's silly and miles out of the way. N3 through traffic would be mad to follow it and will continue to go through Virginia.

steeler j · 12-11-2020 10:14PM

spacetweek wrote: »

It's silly and miles out of the way. N3 through traffic would be mad to follow it and will continue to go through Virginia.

I find it an route and I'm just curious as there reasons for it

ruwithme · 12-11-2020 10:42PM

What is a realistic,expected start date for construction?

roadmaster · 12-11-2020 11:34PM

ruwithme wrote: »

What is a realistic,expected start date for construction?

Minimum 3 years probably 4 years before a bucket is in the ground

roadmaster · 12-11-2020 11:36PM

steeler j wrote: »

I find it an route and I'm just curious as there reasons for it

I believe they have to give as many possible routes as possible so no one can object and say further down the planning process why did you not consider this route etc

steeler j · 13-11-2020 12:19AM

roadmaster wrote: »

I believe they have to give as many possible routes as possible so no one can object and say further down the planning process why did you not consider this route etc

That's an interesting point , cover all bases on future objects and appeals

betistuc · 11-01-2021 03:59PM

Gatso van on the M3 last friday afternoon. First time I've seen one on a Motorway. He was parked up on one of the Garda vehicle mounds not long after the first toll booth heading north. He had his amber roof beacons flashing , so not sure if he was operating or not

13-01-2021 12:01AM

Operating I reckon. Iv seen him there once or twice too.

spacetweek · 13-01-2021 12:23AM

Let's stick to discussion of the Virginia Bypass here, please.

roadmaster · 04-03-2021 03:40PM

An interesting article on the Virginia Bypass and how the planning process can have implications for people who could end up being nowhere near the road

https://www.anglocelt.ie/2021/03/04/farmers-and-locals-in-limbo-while-route-being-finalised/

marno21 · 12-03-2021 07:14PM

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/184698/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE

Tender out for archelogical LIDAR assessment.

Preferred route due this summer.

roadmaster · 31-03-2021 10:47PM

Aerial Survey of the routes this Friday

http://www.cavancoco.ie/Default.aspx?StructureID_str=255&guid=2962

marno21 · 12-05-2021 12:13AM

Preferred route due in Q3.

According to Eamon Ryan, this project will commence construction in 2029. https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2021-03-24a.12

CountingCrows · 12-05-2021 09:55AM

marno21 wrote: »

Preferred route due in Q3.

According to Eamon Ryan, this project will commence construction in 2029. https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2021-03-24a.12

Sometimes living in Ireland is so disheartening.

tigerboon · 12-05-2021 04:18PM

marno21 wrote: »

Preferred route due in Q3.

According to Eamon Ryan, this project will commence construction in 2029. https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2021-03-24a.12

I worked on a job in the early 90s and the hope was that the Virginia Bypass would be given the green light and that would the next job. By the time it's opened it'll be nearly 40 years later....It's nearly like that cathedral in Barcelona

forgottenhills · 12-05-2021 06:52PM

marno21 wrote: »

Preferred route due in Q3.

According to Eamon Ryan, this project will commence construction in 2029. https://www.kildarestreet.com/wrans/?id=2021-03-24a.12

Maybe if the plans included a cycle route it might be built straight away? The planners may have missed a trick...

piplip87 · 12-05-2021 07:00PM

2029... I can remember as a young lad going down to Sharkeys Hotel in Virginia to see the proposed routes. The Sharkeys are long gone and so are the proposed routes. This project is badly needed. Even this evening when many are still working from home the traffic coming into town is unreal. The mad thing is that very little of it stops in the town and is of no benefit to anybody.

I only hope the route they pick makes sense. Going round the far side of the lake doesn't make much sense as it will add time to people's journeys

Bummer1234 · 12-05-2021 08:14PM

2029!!! Holy F**k!!

marno21 · 14-06-2021 01:10PM

https://irl.eu-supply.com/ctm/Supplier/PublicPurchase/191130/0/0?returnUrl=ctm/Supplier/publictenders&b=ETENDERS_SIMPLE

Tender out for traffic data collection.

spacetweek · 14-06-2021 10:06PM

OK but as mentioned above this won't start till 2029 so won't their traffic figures be way out of date by then.

mugsymugsy · 14-06-2021 10:38PM

Nearly another decade of cars backed up to the glanbia factory on a Friday evening. Joys

munchkin_utd · 22-06-2021 07:47AM

Cavan Co Co getting their ducks in a row !

Cavan County Council has moved to temporarily block any potential development on lands along corridors earmarked for the Virginia by-pass for fear it may “interfere” with the delivery of the key infrastructural project for the county.

By the end of Summer, the local authority expects to have identified its preferred route for the multi-million euro project. The corridors have already been whittled down from nine to five. Subject to approval, the council will begin finalising the statutory processes, including the compulsory purchase of land from Summer/Autumn 2022.

The stipulation to stave off development along proposed route corridors was passed unanimously by elected members as a Material Amendment to the Chief Executive’s Draft Cavan County Development Plan 2022-2028, which was put before them at the council meeting on Monday.

https://www.anglocelt.ie/2021/05/14/council-blocks-development-on-virginia-bypass-routes/

roadmaster · 18-08-2021 10:38AM

Route to be announced tomorrow at 2pm!

Standard Toaster · 18-08-2021 12:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117770528#Comment_117770528

http://www.n3virginiabypass.ie/news.html

Public Consultation No.3

The Emerging Preferred Option Corridor will be published at 2pm on Thursday 19th August 2021 on the project website www.n3virginiabypass.ie and linked via the Cavan County Council website at www.cavancoco.ie/n3-virginia-bypass. Details of the Emerging Preferred Option Corridor will also be published through local media and social media that week.

A third period of non-statutory public consultation seeking feedback on the Emerging Preferred Option Corridor will begin at 2pm on August 19, 2021 and will run until September 13, 2021.

Standard Toaster · 19-08-2021 03:47PM

No update yet 😑

Pete_Cavan · 19-08-2021 04:02PM

I see they are not proposing a junction with the R194 Mullagh Road but have retained this new Burrencarragh Link Road idea. This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The Burrencarragh Link Road junction doesn't connect to any road to the north and seems entirely for the benefit of the Glanbia plant with no consideration for anything else. The junction layout as proposed makes the new road unusable for much of north east Cavan, people travelling to/from Mullagh and Kingscourt wouldn't use the new road they would use the existing roads at the end of the existing N3 DC.

I think a better strategy would be to move the Burrencarragh Link Road junction east so that it is immediately west of the L7102. This would make the link road much shorter, would serve more people (people living in the Maghera, Munterconnaughtt, Cross areas) as well as Virgina Transport and AW Ennis which generate high volumes of HGV movements. This would then make room for a new junction with the R194 which I think would be beneficial. Not only is it better for people travelling to/from Mullagh and Kingscourt, it is also means that all Virginia traffic isn't getting sent down the Bailieborough Road which isn't suitable for that volume.

N3 - Virginia Bypass [route options published]

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