Trump vs Biden 2020, Ultimate battle for the fate of our universe (pt 3)Read OP 01/11

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Look at San Marino. Every country is different for a multitude of reasons. There is too much at play to put the blame on Trump. The virus is going to spread no matter what, it is nature at work. People claiming to care about Corona virus and its effects are the same people weaponizing it to attack Trump.

It's his inaction that was the problem. Yes, the virus will spread. But how far and how many it will kill are things that can be alleviated. Trump actively chose NOT to do this. While you could argue for and against lockdowns and masks, saying that it wasn't going to be serious and only 15 people or so would get it was dangerous. And the warning signs were well in place.

Anyway, my point was: holding up Sweden as a metric of what to do in a pandemic is not the wisest move in a coronavirus debate.

ohnonotgmail wrote:

would you be so annoyed if the ad wasn't about ivanka and kushner? what makes them so immune to criticism?

If it was elected officials I wouldn't care. Have they went after Mike Pence?

eagle eye wrote: »

If it was elected officials I wouldn't care. Have they went after Mike Pence?

Aren't Ivanka and Jared two of Donald Trump's most trusted Whitehouse advisors? Unfortunately for America, their position in Donald Trump's inner circle means that their opinion can directly affect people as they inform Donald's policy decisions, and if their attitude is a callous one, they absolutely deserve criticism, and by extension, having staffers who hold cruel views is an indictment of Donald Trump's presidency. He is the one putting them on the staff in the first place.

briany wrote:

Aren't Ivanka and Jared two of Donald Trump's most trusted Whitehouse advisors? Unfortunately for America, their position in Donald Trump's inner circle means that their opinion can directly affect people as they inform Donald's policy decisions, and if their attitude is a callous one, they absolutely deserve criticism, and by extension, having staffers who hold cruel views is an indictment of Donald Trump's presidency. He is the one putting them on the staff in the first place.

But you and I know that his inner circle is just a farce so he has one. He makes all his own decisions for what best suits him.
Any advice given goes in one ear and out the other unless it suits him.
There's no good reason to back the scum that is the lincoln project.
I'm shocked that you are all defending them.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Republicans determined to slow down the post office and ensure votes aren't counted.

https://twitter.com/kionnemcghee/status/1322214250413215744

That is disgraceful I am sure Trump's mate Dejoy will be delighted

eagle eye wrote: »

But you and I know that his inner circle is just a farce so he has one. He makes all his own decisions for what best suits him.
Any advice given goes in one ear and out the other unless it suits him.
There's no good reason to back the scum that is the lincoln project.
I'm shocked that you are all defending them.

For the sake of argument, it's just as well that Trump doesn't really listen to them because neither are remotely qualified.

But Trump's decision to include two completely politically clueless individuals to his staff is still an indictment of his presidency and decision making. Nor are they immune to criticism because Trump doesn't listen to their advice. People with Ivanka's level of political expertise and apparant disregard have no business at that level.

Smee_Again wrote: »

Hate is a powerful motivator and Trump appeals to those with a lot of pent up hatred.

You must be seriously deluded, have you seen the people at trump rallys,? you should have a look, to say these people are full of hatred is just nonsense

the immortals wrote: »

You must be seriously deluded, have you seen the people at trump rallys,? you should have a look, to say these people are full of hatred is just nonsense

Lock him/her up!

These are the words of a rabble and a mob. There should be no place for this.

Great to see so many core republican voters speaking out.

https://twitter.com/FloridaBiden/status/1322209022246854662

Professor Moriarty wrote:

Lincoln Project helping to bring down Trump. Go Lincoln Project!

Well you go supporting Republicans then. Good luck with that.

Early (mostly young wave) of voters putting Trump and the republican party in serious trouble in Texas. Most urban areas now in excess of the total 2016 vote! Democrats are motivated.



More and more evidence to suggest the state could flip.

Poor Ted won't be happy with how Texas is going - but then again...

Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »

WHO was telling countries to not close the airports, when the virus was spreading. Trump with lot of backlash from democrats shut the country to Europe and China. Democrats seem to forget that. With them in power during Covid 19 US probably be lot worse off.

He is constantly peddling this and I am constantly thinking:

"Please provide evidence that banning chinese and european flights had a significant impact on number of deaths and hospital admissions."

For the majority of the pandemic, allowing chinese tourists to enter the us would have reduced the infection rate per 100k given that they have been mostly covid free since the end of spring.

Before you tell me that it's obvious that if all travel was banned the virus could never infect anyone in the us, bare in mind many people including myself travelled between asia, Europe and the us during this time despite the travel bans because we had appropriate passports.

I don't see how the travel ban was effective, in fact I see the result as proof that the WHO advise was correct.

Beto only lost out by 1.7% to Ted Cruz in 2018.
It wouldn't be a huge shock if Texas went blue, it's been coming for quite a while.