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longgonesilver · 22-10-2020 06:52PM

No cases in spring in that home.

Say my name · 22-10-2020 06:54PM

yosemitesam1 wrote: »

Would be very interesting to know if that occurred where there was a previous outbreak in spring

They probably mightnt know that themselves and it definitely wouldn't be made public.

Condolences to the deceased family and friends but it makes a mockery of just taking temperatures and assuming people haven't the virus because of this or no symptoms.

longgonesilver · 22-10-2020 06:55PM

Say my name wrote: »

All but two in the nursing home tested positive.

The only way they found out was one resident was admitted to hospital, tested and tested positive and the staff and residents were then tested.
Only for that resident was admitted to hospital they'd be none the wiser.

Unfortunately there is one resident after passing away and another very sick so it was going to be discovered anyway. I haven't heard when they had their last routine tests.

longgonesilver · 22-10-2020 06:56PM

Trouble on the streets in Dublin tonight.

whelan2 · 22-10-2020 06:59PM

Was similar in a nursing home in Dundalk in the spring. There was a report done on it and the families were on local radio about it last week

alps · 22-10-2020 07:01PM

Say my name wrote: »

All but two in the nursing home tested positive.

The only way they found out was one resident was admitted to hospital, tested and tested positive and the staff and residents were then tested.
Only for that resident was admitted to hospital they'd be none the wiser.

I can't make sense of this...

All must have been asymptomatic...or certainly not noticed..

These are the most vulnerable....how can they not have been showing symptoms? Was the virus affecting them at all?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2020 07:11PM

longgonesilver wrote: »

Trouble on the streets in Dublin tonight.

What happened?

whelan2 · 22-10-2020 07:14PM

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

What happened?

Another anti lockdown protest :rolleyes:

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2020 07:16PM

Say my name wrote: »

All but two in the nursing home tested positive.

The only way they found out was one resident was admitted to hospital, tested and tested positive and the staff and residents were then tested.
Only for that resident was admitted to hospital they'd be none the wiser.

And two more admitted today.

All staff are tested weekly and aren't allowed go to work unless they have a clear test within the last week. All are requested to minimise social contacts and to not show for work if they have any symptoms.

A close family member works in a care home and we haven't seem them in months now as they take the situation seriously and don't have any contact outside the family unless necessary.

Some staff members, however, wouldn't be as diligent.:(

wrangler · 22-10-2020 07:17PM

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

What happened?

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/traffic-dublin-antilockdown-protest-oconnellbridge-19149402

NcdJd · 22-10-2020 07:19PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Another anti lockdown protest :rolleyes:

There's a video in the Gemma O'Doherty thread in the IMHO forum. Guards look to be on top of the situation this time taking no sh1t from them.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2020 07:22PM

wrangler wrote: »

https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/traffic-dublin-antilockdown-protest-oconnellbridge-19149402

:D:D:D:D

That guy is gas, 'the smell of revolution':D:D:D

NcdJd · 22-10-2020 07:23PM

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

:D:D:D:D

That guy is gas, 'the smell of revolution':D:D:D

Smell of the liffey more like.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2020 07:24PM

NcdJd wrote: »

There's a video in the Gemma O'Doherty thread in the IMHO forum. Guards look to be on top of the situation this time taking no sh1t from them.

Well that's this evening gone astray:(

Buford T. Justice XIX · 22-10-2020 08:15PM

Click into the pics below to see the progression of figures for your local area.
https://twitter.com/illustratethis/status/1319340507865153537?s=19

_Brian · 22-10-2020 09:03PM

Big questions of that nursing home in Galway.

Private ran massively profitable business. Have they been following best practices or what went wrong.

Again, I can’t understand why everyone online is blaming the hse over this. Private business responsible for their own staff and procedures.

If it wasn’t for the resident being found positive on admission to hospital when would it have been found out.

whelan2 · 22-10-2020 09:08PM

Went to young lads training tonight. I am covid officer, I did my job and went back and sat in the car. Parents standing talking as if there was no level 5 lockdown. No masks. People just dont seem to get the lockdown this time.

Water John · 22-10-2020 09:13PM

Nursing home with 28 residents aren't hugely profitable, a bit off topic sorry.
Any NH has to be staffed by a registered nurse 24/7. Sadly its a bad outbreak.

Think the full lockdown will take a few days, possibly fully bed in by early next week.

_Brian · 22-10-2020 09:13PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Went to young lads training tonight. I am covid officer, I did my job and went back and sat in the car. Parents standing talking as if there was no level 5 lockdown. No masks. People just dont seem to get the lockdown this time.

That’s the sort of carelessness that causes trouble.

You’d think hey would be happy the kids are fetting our to their sport that they wouldn’t risk spoiling it.

Got message this evening that riding lessons are to go ahead for youngest. She’s delighted.

paddysdream · 22-10-2020 09:25PM

Water John wrote: »

Nursing home with 28 residents aren't hugely profitable, a bit off topic sorry.
Any NH has to be staffed by a registered nurse 24/7. Sadly its a bad outbreak.

Think the full lockdown will take a few days, possibly fully bed in by early next week.

Think the opposite actually.People seem less enthused by the whole idea this time.
Anything like this usually gets a good buy in at the beginning and adherence falls off over time.This lockdown has started off half heartedly and hard to see it gaining any momentum.

The reason ? Golfgate,supreme court judge,nursing homes,HSE inaction,tracing issue,mixed messages from MM down,wet weather,8 months in and how many people you know actually ill with it,attention span ??Take your pick.
Suppose different people have different issues.

One thing I do notice is that in March nobody in the media was questioning any of the measures or the overall approach.At this stage that seems to have changed.

Shadow Dancer · 22-10-2020 09:48PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Think the opposite actually.People seem less enthused by the whole idea this time.
Anything like this usually gets a good buy in at the beginning and adherence falls off over time.This lockdown has started off half heartedly and hard to see it gaining any momentum.

The reason ? Golfgate,supreme court judge,nursing homes,HSE inaction,tracing issue,mixed messages from MM down,wet weather,8 months in and how many people you know actually ill with it,attention span ??Take your pick.
Suppose different people have different issues.

One thing I do notice is that in March nobody in the media was questioning any of the measures or the overall approach.At this stage that seems to have changed.

A lot more people have come to realise the reality of what the virus is. We know a lot more now than back in the Spring.
They can see the train wreck happening before our eyes, caused by a government and Nphet, that refuse to see the science and data.
Lock downs don't work.
It's easy to be a lock down merchant when your livelihood hasn't been taken away.
People are starting to question the propaganda being spouted daily by mainstream media.
Good people and doctors have called the hysteria and non scientific approach out for what it is.

alps · 22-10-2020 09:57PM

_Brian wrote: »

That’s the sort of carelessness that causes trouble.

You’d think hey would be happy the kids are fetting our to their sport that they wouldn’t risk spoiling it.

Got message this evening that riding lessons are to go ahead for youngest. She’s delighted.

How are the organisers of the riding lessons treating the 5km limit?

paddysdream · 22-10-2020 09:58PM

whelan2 wrote: »

Went to young lads training tonight. I am covid officer, I did my job and went back and sat in the car. Parents standing talking as if there was no level 5 lockdown. No masks. People just dont seem to get the lockdown this time.

Agree with that.Am in the well remunerated position of Covid Compliance Officer for our club and was at one underage training tonight.
Coach's tried to follow FAI guidelines but rather difficult to do anything meaningful and follow the rules to the letter of the law.
Young lads didn't exactly observe "social distancing" but then again that would be like herding mice.

paddysdream · 22-10-2020 10:07PM

Shadow Dancer wrote: »

A lot more people have come to realise the reality of what the virus is. We know a lot more now than back in the Spring.
They can see the train wreck happening before our eyes, caused by a government and Nphet, that refuse to see the science and data.
Lock downs don't work.
It's easy to be a lock down merchant when your livelihood hasn't been taken away.
People are starting to question the propaganda being spouted daily by mainstream media.
Good people and doctors have called the hysteria and non scientific approach out for what it is.

Thats the thing.Like I said previously this level 5 or the previous one has a minimal effect on me but still think its a waste of time.
Neither myself or any of my siblings have seen any economic impact from it but still none in favour of it.
I wonder if all this had happened 10/20 years ago would it have been different?

Although that said remember an elderly neighbour telling me about foot and mouth in, I think,the 1940's and the way people waited until the Guard or LDF man had gone down the road before moving cattle .Think it was the river at home divided an area/townland and moving cattle across it to an out farm was strictly forbidden.

wrangler · 22-10-2020 10:26PM

alps wrote: »

How are the organisers of the riding lessons treating the 5km limit?

Good question, I'd say most are ignoring it

paddysdream · 22-10-2020 10:37PM

alps wrote: »

How are the organisers of the riding lessons treating the 5km limit?

Maybe I am wrong but have people taken up the 5km thing totally wrong?

Though it was something to do with exercise ie keep people from congregating at beaches or woodland parks(not much chance of beach weather in a normal Irish November thanks to Greta) and that you could travel as far as necessary for anything else?

Regards soccer training the 5km limit doesn't apply to kids or parents.If it did our club might see 4/5 per team at times.

As an aside spent a little time reading the covid forum on here and never knew that many ????????????? people existed in the world.
Hard to describe but I wonder how some people even manage to dress themselves in the morning.Whatever happened to common sense.
Actually wonder how many are serious cause posters asking questions about whether they can collect a bike from a shop when its 8km away or if they are allowed to drop the kids into the granny for a few hours etc etc.
Are we reduced to this level of ?I don't know what you would call it ?Helplessness,hard of thinking,inability to make even the slightest move without asking someone else.
Are these actual adults with jobs ,kids ,mortgages and how do they manage to survive

Neddyusa · 22-10-2020 11:00PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Maybe I am wrong but have people taken up the 5km thing totally wrong?

Though it was something to do with exercise ie keep people from congregating at beaches or woodland parks(not much chance of beach weather in a normal Irish November thanks to Greta) and that you could travel as far as necessary for anything else?

Regards soccer training the 5km limit doesn't apply to kids or parents.If it did our club might see 4/5 per team at times.

As an aside spent a little time reading the covid forum on here and never knew that many ????????????? people existed in the world.
Hard to describe but I wonder how some people even manage to dress themselves in the morning.Whatever happened to common sense.
Actually wonder how many are serious cause posters asking questions about whether they can collect a bike from a shop when its 8km away or if they are allowed to drop the kids into the granny for a few hours etc etc.
Are we reduced to this level of ?I don't know what you would call it ?Helplessness,hard of thinking,inability to make even the slightest move without asking someone else.
Are these actual adults with jobs ,kids ,mortgages and how do they manage to survive

There is a large cohort of Irish people who are totally lost if they are not told exactly what to do by a higher authority.
As you say youd wonder how they manage to hold down a job etc. Maybe they are all civil servants?
Is it a remnant of our colonial past or what?
Although it seems to be getting worse with the social media age.

ruwithme · 22-10-2020 11:07PM

God be with the days of a bit of anarchy

alps · 22-10-2020 11:26PM

paddysdream wrote: »

Maybe I am wrong but have people taken up the 5km thing totally wrong?

Though it was something to do with exercise ie keep people from congregating at beaches or woodland parks(not much chance of beach weather in a normal Irish November thanks to Greta) and that you could travel as far as necessary for anything else?

Regards soccer training the 5km limit doesn't apply to kids or parents.If it did our club might see 4/5 per team at times.

As an aside spent a little time reading the covid forum on here and never knew that many ????????????? people existed in the world.
Hard to describe but I wonder how some people even manage to dress themselves in the morning.Whatever happened to common sense.
Actually wonder how many are serious cause posters asking questions about whether they can collect a bike from a shop when its 8km away or if they are allowed to drop the kids into the granny for a few hours etc etc.
Are we reduced to this level of ?I don't know what you would call it ?Helplessness,hard of thinking,inability to make even the slightest move without asking someone else.
Are these actual adults with jobs ,kids ,mortgages and how do they manage to survive

You deciding on what yo do or what way to "interpret" the guidelines is a completely different thing to an organisation having to "interpret" that same guideline.

I'm involved in training kids in something like what's mentioned above.

We have to submit our interpretation and application of the guidelines at each change of level, to a governing body, and I can tell you the interpretation from the governing body is that for anyone other than those qualifying under elite athletes...its 5KM...

Our insurance company has stipulated that we're covered as normal through this difficulty as long as we operate completely within any government guidelines in place at that time....that concentrates the mind..

paddysdream · 22-10-2020 11:45PM

alps wrote: »

You deciding on what yo do or what way to "interpret" the guidelines is a completely different thing to an organisation having to "interpret" that same guideline.

I'm involved in training kids in something like what's mentioned above.

We have to submit our interpretation and application of the guidelines at each change of level, to a governing body, and I can tell you the interpretation from the governing body is that for anyone other than those qualifying under elite athletes...its 5KM...

Our insurance company has stipulated that we're covered as normal through this difficulty as long as we operate completely within any government guidelines in place at that time....that concentrates the mind..

Don't really follow what you are trying to say but

Anything I have read (plus guidelines from governing body)state that the 5km limit as regards to exercise does not apply to the kids(or the parents bringing them) going to soccer training.

Probably governing body dependent as regards their take on things.

Anyways those things are gospel for a week or two, then observed in spirit and usually end up being ignored.
Probably not ideal but thats what happens in my experience.

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