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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • #3122
    8k71ps
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭8k71ps


    seamus wrote: »
    How many 19-24 year olds are in school?
    My mistake I didn't realize you were specifically referring to that group.


  • #3123
    Nobotty
    Closed Accounts Posts: 788 ✭✭✭Nobotty


    seamus wrote: »
    How many 19-24 year olds are in school?

    Quite a few with h dip's !


  • #3124
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,052 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    Interesting that my LEA's numbers are up from last week yet its ranking, overall in Ireland, has managed to drop even further into the bottom 1/3.


  • #3125
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Helen went "as Tony said, we are going into this with 14 - 15k infections in the community" but Tony didn't say that, George Lee did. Tony got VERY tense.


  • #3126
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,177 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Compare the numbers posting here now to the first day after lockdown in March

    Nobody cares anymore


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  • #3127
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,802 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Cork LEA numbers this week are insanity. Every single LEA besides Midleton increased significantly. Every LEA in the city has an incidence rate of over 400. Cork City South Central is at 800.
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=115022735#post115022735


  • #3128
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭Polar101


    ixoy wrote: »
    Interesting that my LEA's numbers are up from last week yet its ranking, overall in Ireland, has managed to drop even further into the bottom 1/3.

    Pretty much no change in mine, but it's gone from Covid Central to Very Average nationally.

    Just clicking around, Cavan had one LEA at 1,488/100k and Meath one with 1,212/100k, they were the highest ones I found.


  • #3129
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,337 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Sweet.Science wrote: »
    Compare the numbers posting here now to the first day after lockdown in March

    Nobody cares anymore

    It's comparing unknown with something we have experience of. Some of the recent threads were some of the ones who reached 10k faster. It continues to effect people's lives that might not translate as posting on here but not exactly a true comparison tbf.


  • #3130
    Pitch n Putt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭Pitch n Putt


    Roger_007 wrote: »
    Dr Tony is telling us that:
    - we must all behave for the next six weeks as if we are ‘close contacts’.
    - close contacts must self-isolate.

    Therefore we must all self-isolate for the next six weeks.

    Have I got that right?

    Dr Tony is an arrogant ass.

    Shouldn’t even be still employed in the role he has let alone running the show


  • #3131
    46 Long
    Closed Accounts Posts: 355 ✭✭46 Long


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    It’s the antisocial right wing nazi types that are holding us back. I’d hold them down while they get tested, for free, I could dust off my black belt and put some manners on them as we round them up. Hopefully 2021 or 2022 will be year zero... covid.
    Shouldn't we try the carrot first before resorting to the stick? Get the nurses to offer an ice-cold can of Galahad and a king size Johnny blue with every test.


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  • #3132
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Eod100 wrote: »
    It's comparing unknown with something we have experience of. Some of the recent threads were some of the ones who reached 10k faster. It continues to effect people's lives that might not translate as posting on here but not exactly a true comparison tbf.
    No they weren't!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112846635&postcount=2


  • #3133
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Strumms wrote: »
    Exactly, The taxpaying citizens are investing big money in you...

    It costs just shy of 300,000 euros to fully train a doctor here.

    The public are investing this money in YOU to become qualified for to help THEM here, US ...not to help and treat other people in other countries.

    If a person rocked up, said in a pre medical college interview... “ yes my plan is to work hard, get qualified and move to Australia !” I want and expect the interview panel to say.. “ ok, thanks for your honesty. As a result of what you have told us however we need to inform you that you are no longer eligible to participate on this course.”

    Also on accepting a place on the course there should be a requirement to sign a contract....

    “ on successfully completing my degree I commit to remaining fully available for a minimum period of six years to work within the health services in Ireland, i acknowledge now that failure to do so without good reason will make me liable for the reimbursement of the entire cost of the medical degree. “...

    We train doctors not just so they become doctors, but so they help people, here....investing money and expertise in them, so they can use those qualities to help US...

    If I give my Hyundai dealer 50,000 for a Santa Fe..l I expect to be able to collect it, drive it and own it. Not given away to someone else. Same principle when WE spend OUR money training doctors .

    Maybe we’d be having a better reaction to battling covid if we’d done this.
    I can appreciate the idea that some sort of pay back is expected for a good education. However, I don’t think this logic can be exclusively be applied to one sector.

    If doctors and others in healthcare are expected to ‘pay back’ their education to their country, then so too should all others. Why should teachers not be obliged to teach here, architects to design housing for the homeless, engineers to contribute to building homes and improving infrastructure, lawyers to prosecute criminals and defend victims, business graduates to contribute to economic development, etc., etc.


  • #3134
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    s1ippy wrote: »
    They might get out the seismometer again like they did in the summer to measure how much we're walking around the place.

    Maybe thats where Glynn is gone off to...

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  • #3135
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    prunudo wrote: »
    Not quite sure why people are expecting traffic volumes to feel like April. What was introduced is level 5 in name only. Between schools and the amount of exemptions to the rules it may as well be business as usual. This is really only a hospitality and hairdresser/barber lockdown with a 5km tarvel limit for excerise thrown in for good measure.

    And closed golf courses :(


  • #3136
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Signs of stability - green shoots but not an established trend.

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    Interesting to see 14 day incidence rate in Donegal had started to decline before level 5 started and even before/close to when level 4 started.


  • #3137
    Arghus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,499 ✭✭✭✭Arghus


    Was that George Lee that ran right up to them again after the presser ended?

    Come on George!


  • #3138
    s1ippy
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    saabsaab wrote: »
    There was a report in June that DNA analysis was being done to determine the origins of the virus within Ireland. (Cillian De Gascun?) Said it would be useful in a second wave. Has there been any further news on this?
    Haven't seen him in months. He's probably swamped.


  • #3139
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Had the press briefing on tv on in the background this evening. It’s the first time I have seen any of the press briefings since pandemic began.

    It went on for about an hour and a half! Wandered in and out of room so I wasn’t watching it properly but I can’t believe how long it was on for. Is that typical? I never realized they lasted that long. Could not have watched that every day or even twice a week.


  • #3140
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    majcos wrote: »
    Had the press briefing on tv on in the background this evening. It’s the first time I have seen any of the press briefings since pandemic began.

    It went on for about an hour and a half! Wandered in and out of room so I wasn’t watching it properly but I can’t believe how long it was on for. Is that typical? I never realized they lasted that long. Could not have watched that every day or even twice a week.

    Its usually an hour to an hour and a half


  • #3141
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    majcos wrote: »
    Had the press briefing on tv on in the background this evening. It’s the first time I have seen any of the press briefings since pandemic began.

    It went on for about an hour and a half! Wandered in and out of room so I wasn’t watching it properly but I can’t believe how long it was on for. Is that typical? I never realized they lasted that long. Could not have watched that every day or even twice a week.

    They can’t get Tony cervical off the stage


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  • #3142
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Mother-in-law on the phone to my other half in tears after hearing G.Lee making outlandish statements that everyone is 100 times more likely to catch COVID now than 4 months ago....talk about ****ing fake news, sensationalist bull**** from RTE yet again frightening mostly the type of person that has done things right for months and therefore haven’t increased their likelihood i.e. people who bother watching the news.

    So many metrics would have to be accessed to determine regional and individual increased likelihood of infection with increased case numbers- not to mention we don’t even know how many of these cases are infectious.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



  • #3143
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    Stheno wrote: »
    Its usually an hour to an hour and a half
    Must be so repetitive.


  • #3144
    marno21
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,748 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    Ballyjamesduff LEA in Cavan now has a 14 day incidence rate of 1488, which means that 1.5% of the population of that area has tested positive in the last 14 days.

    Seems a bit risky to have schools open in an environment where 1 in every 67 people has tested positive in the last fortnight.


  • #3145
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    majcos wrote: »
    Must be so repetitive.

    Yep they used to be shorter. I rarely watch them now as they are so verbose

    And the tone has changed recently and is quite condescending - it generally goes along the lines of "well peoples behaviour has caused this", nothing addressed regarding the waste of the six months we had to get our Health Services improved even a little


  • #3146
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    marno21 wrote: »
    Ballyjamesduff LEA in Cavan now has a 14 day incidence rate of 1488, which means that 1.5% of the population of that area has tested positive in the last 14 days.

    Seems a bit risky to have schools open in an environment where 1 in every 67 people has tested positive in the last fortnight.

    Sounds like the gaa did some damage. And yet they are allowed to play on. What a country


  • #3147
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,593 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    Mother-in-law on the phone to my other half in tears after hearing G.Lee making outlandish statements that everyone is 100 times more likely to catch COVID now than 4 months ago....talk about ****ing fake news, sensationalist bull**** from RTE yet again frightening mostly the type of person that has done things right for months and therefore haven’t increased their likelihood i.e. people who bother watching the news.

    So many metrics would have to be accessed to determine regional and individual increased likelihood of infection with increased case numbers- not to mention we don’t even know how many of these cases are infectious.

    Nothing to do with George or RTE.
    The 14-day incidence was at 3 per 100,000 at the end of June - today it is 302 per 100,000 population. The risk of you being exposed to COVID-19 is now 100 times greater than it was 4 months ago. Please limit your risk by staying at home and following public health advice.

    - Dr. Heather Burns, Deputy Chief Medical Officer


  • #3148
    podgeandrodge
    Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Wear a mask, doesn't matter how, just wear one. Fit in. Masks help. :rolleyes:


    *Dr Kim Roberts of the Trinity College virology department told The Irish Times that while there was some evidence suggesting face masks when worn correctly can have “a modest effect” on reducing transmission of Covid-19, “if not worn correctly, masks can pose as a hazard and can potentially increase the risk of transmission of the virus”.


    * US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams not only wants people to stop buying facemasks to prevent the novel coronavirus, but warns that you actually might increase your risk of infection if facemasks are not worn properly.

    "You can increase your risk of getting it by wearing a mask if you are not a health care provider," Adams said during an interview.

    "Folks who don't know how to wear them properly tend to touch their faces a lot and actually can increase the spread of coronavirus," Adams said.


    *Using a mask incorrectly however, may actually increase the risk of transmission, rather than reduce it.
    https://www.who.int/csr/resources/publications/Adviceusemaskscommunityrevised.pdf


    *Acting Chief Medical Officer Ronan Glynn says while the level of compliance is encouraging, there are huge risks if people do not wear a mask properly.

    "If we can just take the opportunity to remind people that if you are wearing them to wear them properly.

    "We are seeing far too many people walking around with them under their chin.

    "We are seeing many people wearing them but with their nose exposed.

    "Neither of those things provide any protection and indeed may increase the risk."
    US2 wrote: »
    So you can't answer the question atall.

    What's Twitter and YouTube got to do with the questions I asked ?

    If masks work why have shops been forced to close ?


    Actually, I'd like to hear an official answer to that question too. If they are of much use at all, then you could have retail open without much risk as people don't hang around for a significant amount of time. So if they are closing retail, it would suggest that they don't think masks are preventing spread. No?

    I get masks in closed environments for long periods of time. But US2's question is valid imo.


  • #3149
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,593 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    podgeandrodge wrote: »
    Actually, I'd like to hear an official answer to that question too. If they are of much use at all, then you could have retail open without much risk as people don't hang around for a significant amount of time. So if they are closing retail, it would suggest that they don't think masks are preventing spread. No?

    I get masks in closed environments for long periods of time. But US2's question is valid imo.

    You'll be waiting, there is no one here that posts on an official capacity.


  • #3150
    D.Q
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,054 ✭✭✭D.Q


    daydorunrun wrote: »
    Mother-in-law on the phone to my other half in tears after hearing G.Lee making outlandish statements that everyone is 100 times more likely to catch COVID now than 4 months ago....talk about ****ing fake news, sensationalist bull**** from RTE yet again frightening mostly the type of person that has done things right for months and therefore haven’t increased their likelihood i.e. people who bother watching the news.

    So many metrics would have to be accessed to determine regional and individual increased likelihood of infection with increased case numbers- not to mention we don’t even know how many of these cases are infectious.

    If someone is crying over a statistic on an rte broadcast, covid is the least of their worries.


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  • #3151
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    Boggles wrote: »
    Nothing to do with George or RTE.



    - Dr. Heather Burns, Deputy Chief Medical Officer

    RTE and G.Lee have a responsibility to be non sensationalistic. Metrics don’t work like that regardless of who came up with them.

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



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