Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

josip wrote: »

Yesterday Tennis Ireland said Junior Coaching could continue, but this morning they've said it's to stop with immediate effect.
Does anyone know why the change?

I guess because they figured from studying the texts they will be within the general level 5 framework in what they communicated yesterday. Only they were slapped down today.

KennisWhale wrote: »

Alcohol is linked with depression and should be avoided by those with mental health illnesses. It most certainly is not a crutch to improve mental health.

On the other point, the logic you are applying that people consuming fags and booze in their own home are not causing any danger. There is a risk they will clog up the hospitals with health issues caused by consuming fags and booze, which will hurt those needing treatment from covid. When you raise a concern about gym goers spreading covid as a result of catching it in the gym, but not actually about them contracting it themselves, it is the same logic. Both activities are getting in the way of treating those with covid who need treatment (ie the gym goers are spreading it, resulting in more people needing treatment and the boozehounds and smokers are taking up hospital resources which should be used for covid patients), so according to your logic, both should be banned.

It’s well proven that gyms increase physical and mental health- thus reducing active strain on reactionary medical services- cohort that use gyms and exercise use the health services a lot less than those that don’t or don’t partake in exercise. The message in closing then is all wrong, short sighted and lacking in any pragmatism

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

It’s well proven that gyms increase physical and mental health- thus reducing active strain on reactionary medical services- cohort that use gyms and exercise use the health services a lot less than those that don’t or don’t partake in exercise. The message in closing then is all wrong, short sighted and lacking in any pragmatism

Nobody is stopping people exercising

josip wrote: »

No, it's outdoors.
Communicated from the club this morning and now appearing on media pages

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports/tennis-clubs-in-republic-of-ireland-to-close-under-level-5-covid-19-restrictions-1.4388240

Like to know the reason, there is no difference in coaching kids in gaa than tennis. Done both and I don't get the reason

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

It’s well proven that gyms increase physical and mental health- thus reducing active strain on reactionary medical services- cohort that use gyms and exercise use the health services a lot less than those that don’t or don’t partake in exercise. The message in closing then is all wrong, short sighted and lacking in any pragmatism

People have their preference for what they like, exercising outside can be daunting for some but its benefits are way ahead of the gym.

bucketybuck wrote: »

Even asking that question requires an acceptance that they do need to close. Think of the questions in order:

A- Is this business a health risk?
B- If yes, is this business an essential service that needs to stay open anyway?

If the answer to A is "No" then question B doesn't need to be asked, just let it stay open. You appear to be asking question B, but did you ask question A first?

My wife, a nurse, has been visiting our local gym and she's been very impressed with the spacing and cleaning and numbers management. Sessions are for 1 hour, no changing or showering on the premises, and a 30-minutes cleanup of the equipment between sessions. On fine days they hold spinning classes in the car park. So in this case the answer to "A" is surely "No". The same is true of other businesses she/we have been using, which is why this lockdown really is a two finger salute to those responsible bushiness who have been doing all the right things. I think it's a scattergun approach to cover up the fact that nobody thought to buy ammunition for the rifle.

SAMTALK wrote: »

Nobody is stopping people exercising

Yes they are if you’re greatly limiting their options and capacity to exercise.

I am totally against primary schools and residential construction shutting down, they are essential. Secondary school, maybe short shut down, if its practical to keep sixth year and maybe 5th, attending classes. The whole issue is what amount of extra COVID deaths, you are prepared to take v the damage of shutting certain sectors. I think its fair to say that one or two covid deaths a week, is certainly a price worth paying, for having construction and schools open...

no bloody politician will admit that and they pretty much cant! where do you draw the line, should we shut everything down until covid is sorted, to save one death a month?

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Yes they are if you’re greatly limiting their options and capacity to exercise.

But you can do cardio anywhere?

growleaves wrote: »

Cardio and weight training are simply different kinds of exercise.

If you lift free weights you aren't using a machine.

Not everyone has space for home weights or bodyweight exercises.

I had to subscribe to annual membership in 2 gyms last year.

The first didn’t have enough weights

Danica Freezing Brow wrote: »

There was, it’s in my post earlier this morning.

In this instance, you are correct.

SAMTALK wrote: »

I dont have loads of space and you can buy second hand equipment with the money you save from gym membership ! Your tone is quite arrogant

My point is you can still exercise,( even without equipment) this has not been taken away. It might not be the exercise you normally do but adjust

this constant moan about mental / physical health been comprised is silly. if people are that concerned they will find an alternative

Everybody has been affected by lockdown but this idea that the gyms are essential is ridiculous .

*My* tone is quite arrogant? You're the one insisting everyone should be able to exercise at home and be totally unaffected by the restrictions.

Referring to people "moaning" about mental and physical health just clearly demonstrates you're completely incapable of comprehending that people live in vastly different circumstances to whatever little bubble of self you reside in.

But I'm the arrogant one? Wow.

Not sure it's occurred to you, but there's a reason gyms exist in cities.
Treadmills and the like mostly aren't appropriate in apartment complexes (especially the way Irish ones are built) because you're effectively pounding on your neighbours head. Which is bad enough at the best of times but people are now home most of the time and often trying to work.

Getting out for a walk or run in high-density populated urban areas isn't very practical since the streets are quite busy. A 5k restriction limits the options significantly.

I looked at the options and decided the best way to exercise at home with least impact on my neighbours would be to buy some hand weights so I could at least get some level of exercise during the coming lockdown. Everywhere I looked was sold out. Not sure but presume they'll be closed now anyway.

So right now my two options are looking like going out for walks at 11pm when the streets are quiet, and probably being questioned by suspicious gardai on a regular basis. Or maybe use the underground car park , though not sure how safe that would be.

So next time you're exercising in your home gym maybe spend the time considering that not everyone is in the same circumstances as you.

MOH wrote: »

*My* tone is quite arrogant? You're the one insisting everyone should be able to exercise at home and be totally unaffected by the restrictions.

Referring to people "moaning" about mental and physical health just clearly demonstrates you're completely incapable of comprehending that people live in vastly different circumstances to whatever little bubble of self you reside in.

But I'm the arrogant one? Wow.

Not sure it's occurred to you, but there's a reason gyms exist in cities.
Treadmills and the like mostly aren't appropriate in apartment complexes (especially the way Irish ones are built) because you're effectively pounding on your neighbours head. Which is bad enough at the best of times but people are now home most of the time and often trying to work.

Getting out for a walk or run in high-density populated urban areas isn't very practical since the streets are quite busy. A 5k restriction limits the options significantly.

I looked at the options and decided the best way to exercise at home with least impact on my neighbours would be to buy some hand weights so I could at least get some level of exercise during the coming lockdown. Everywhere I looked was sold out. Not sure but presume they'll be closed now anyway.

So right now my two options are looking like going out for walks at 11pm when the streets are quiet, and probably being questioned by suspicious gardai on a regular basis. Or maybe use the underground car park , though not sure how safe that would be.

So next time you're exercising in your home gym maybe spend the time considering that not everyone is in the same circumstances as you.

You seem to have some notion that I live in a mansion and have a home gyu=m

Maybe have a read back on my posts, but just in case .. second hand equipment... i had to move furniture around to make space but if you dont have space for equipment you can do work out without equipment

On one hand you say the streets are busy and then say people are now home most of the time

i am making the point ( yet again ) that exercise is possible without gyms. What did people do before gyms ?

Exercise is not exclusive to weights / machines.