Donald Trump Presidency discussion Thread VIII (threadbanned users listed in OP)

It's more likely the GOP will be torn apart to form a third party than the democrats that this moment imo.

BluePlanet wrote: »

It's happening whether Biden wins or looses.

If he wins he at least gets a chance at keeping the Dem umbrella somewhat united.
IMO it's likely he and his handlers learn the wrong lessons per usual and he looses the Left.

LOL its not gonna happen and even if a split were to occur it would be more likely the republicans than the democrats if Biden wins.


What evidence do you have to back up your claim that its gonna happen whether biden likes it or not?

VinLieger wrote: »

Okay twitter and reddit arent the real world

The President of the United States literally uses the platform as the primary communications platform.

BluePlanet wrote: »

The President of the United States literally uses the platform as the primary communications platform.

And has argued in court that they are not to be taken seriously.

So what proof do you have that the GOP would splinter before the Dems do?

This party is launching after the election.
https://peoplesparty.org/platform/
Every time Biden dismisses the Left he's going to hemorrhage supporters to them.

Anyone notice Trump is not getting much endorsement or campaign help from other senior Republicans?
They may be leaving the sinking ship.

20Cent wrote: »

Anyone notice Trump is not getting much endorsement or campaign help from other senior Republicans?
They may be leaving the sinking ship.

The rats are well and truly into fleeing the sinking ship mode yeah.

StringerBell wrote: »

Then why attach some meaning to him using the medium of Twitter as if it lends any real credibility to the platform itself?

Do you expect Twitter to vet every tweet on it's platform?
How could any publisher know at any given moment that a poster is "not being serious" here and there?

BluePlanet wrote: »

Twitter isn't real?

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0229931

Not in the way you are basing your theory about how the democrats are going to split due to anonymous nobody accounts being mean about bernie on it, in that case it absolutely is not real.

BluePlanet wrote: »

Do you expect Twitter to vet every tweet on it's platform?
How could any publisher know at any given moment that a poster is "not being serious" here and there?

I have no idea where your going now.

A poster said Twitter and Reddit are not the real world

You said the president of the United States uses it as his main form of communication or something similar, this is only reasonable to do if you are trying to counter the argument and lend some weight to it.

Trump has argued in court (through the justice department) that his tweets are not to be taken seriously, this lessens the weight of him actually using it as a legitimate communication tool. He knows at least what Twitter is.

Now how we get from there to something about me expecting Twitter to vet every post or make some judgement about whether someone is being serious or not I have no clue.

Twitter amplifies the fringe opinions, all online platforms do actually. They are far from the real world though or representative of the majority opinion.

So I’ve not been keeping up on the madness that is the American political scene the last few days like I normally do because there are more important things to concentrate on here at home. But the bits I have seen it looks like it’s gotten even more insane if that were possible.

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

There's an almost zero chance of this happening due to the USA using the First Pass the Post electoral system. A winner takes all election system does not reward small parties and inevitably leads to 2 large parties.

I'd wager that one of the few things you could get the Republicans and Democrats to agree on these days is that they like the voting system just fine the way it is.

Your spot on there. The Republican and Democratic parties will not do anything that would allow any other parties to legitimately challenge them on a national level. They are very happy with the corrupt duopoly on power they have as is. For a country that laughably rants on about "freedom" and the "free market" they have no intention of allowing that to catch on when it comes to power and the wielding of power.

Looking at the Trump re-election campaign and it's allied partner, the GOP, there seems to be three factions at play there. One is the campaign, the second is his treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin [who seems to have been given a freer hand by the president] and Nancy Pelosi, and the third Mitch McConnell who seems determined NOT to let Nancy and Steve [and by extension Trump] make a deal which can be given the nod by Trump, even if it's after the election. That to me is indicative-confirmation of the split between Trump and McConnell & the GOP.

The campaign looks to be in free flow, if not fall. Today Trump is in Pennsylvania maskless. He's annoyed at the USSC decision to allow that state have 3 extra days to count the ballots after close of polls on the 3rd Nov, said decision also ruled that the writing on the envelopes containing the ballots need not be legible. The USSC decision is reported by CNN to be along conservative V Liberal 4 - 4 lines. One thing is the result was a de facto agreement with Pennsylvania's State supreme court decision against the GOP there. His wife was supposed to be with him in Pennsylvania but pulled out due to a cough. I listened to a recording of Trump speaking today in Pennsylvania and his voice sounded rough, if not hoarse.

He walked out of a CBS interview deal which included a joint follow-up with him, Mike Pence and the network scuppering that as well.

aloyisious wrote: »

Looking at the Trump re-election campaign and it's allied partner, the GOP, there seems to be three factions at play there. One is the campaign, the second is his treasury secretary, Steve Mnuchin [who seems to have been given a freer hand by the president] and Nancy Pelosi, and the third Mitch McConnell who seems determined NOT to let Nancy and Steve [and by extension Trump] make a deal which can be given the nod by Trump, even if it's after the election. That to me is indicative-confirmation of the split between Trump and McConnell & the GOP.

The campaign looks to be in free flow, if not fall. Today Trump is in Pennsylvania maskless. He's annoyed at the USSC decision to allow that state have 3 extra days to count the ballots after close of polls on the 3rd Nov, said decision also ruled that the writing on the envelopes containing the ballots need not be legible. His wife was supposed to be with him in Pennsylvania but pulled out due to a cough. I listened to a recording of Trump speaking today in Pennsylvania and his voice sounded rough, if not hoarse.

He walked out of a CBS interview deal which included a joint follow-up with him, Mike Pence and the network scuppering that as well.

He’s claiming he’s going to release the interview before it’s air date because of his normal reasons because of fake news and all that.

I see he’s called CNN “dumb bastards” which isn’t really presidential language and just imagine is Obama had used language even close to that and how the opinion hosts heads would collectively explode.

aloyisious wrote: »

I genuinely won't count him down and out until the 7th or 8th Nov by which time the GOP would probably have ceded party defeat of the election results plural to the Democrats. His antics have turned me from an optimist to a pessimistic-optimist.

It’s going to be very close, his core base are true believers nothing can shake their faith in him